'San Francisco values', eh? by Niki2

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'San Francisco values', eh?

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Tuesday, March 2, 2010 08:51
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Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:14 AM

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Those on the right continually put up San Francisco as if it's the warning for what happens when liberals are in charge. They sneer at "San Francisco values" constantly. Well, SF's mayor Gavin Newsome had a lot to say about that:

On Healthcare:

2005, Mayor said he wanted all the 73,000 who have no insurance to have access to healthcare.

2006: City started meeting to see how that could be done.

2007: Plan put into effect. As of now,

If a family's income is 5x poverty level or lower, and they don't qualify for public insurance programs such as Medicaid or Medicare, are SF residents and uninsured, they get medical care.

It's not insurance; it's a doable public coordinated program to let folks who otherwise are falling through the cracks get access to health care.

SF also has:

Minimum wage of $9.75/hr.

Preschool for all: "Free half-day preschool for all 4-year-old San Franciscans who'd like to attend, regardless of income."

Universal after-school.

Highest-performing urban school district in California. Seven years in a row of improved test scores.

Comprehensive arts education: every child, every classroom, K-12, the City funds it.

Salad bars in public schools, to focus on "wellness" and "prevention".

Murder rate as low as it's been since the 1960s.

Paid sick-leave ordinance, which they said would devastate the economic framework of the city; did the opposite.

Local earned income tax credit to keep working families keep more of what they earn.

Bond rating highest among California or any big city in the nation.

9.4% unemployment (California's is 12%)

Rainy-day reserve.

Two-year budget cycles.

Ten-year capital plans.

Good fiscal policies and efficiency plans.

Term limits.

Doing more on the environment than any city in the nation, with the possible exception of Portland Oregon.

$438 deficit (California's is $19.9 BILLION).

So we're a dangerous, cutting-edge precedent for all that's wrong with liberalism, eh? Put that in your pipe and smoke it, right wingers!

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Monday, March 1, 2010 7:59 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Well, I have to caveat the above. My husband is administrative assistant to one of the big parking garages in SF, and as such deals with the City and the Board of Supervisors extensively.

They're screwed up, majorly. While all the above is true, it's also true that they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. The Board is ready to quit, en masse, because the City "consultants" have not only raised rates in the garage (which suffers from the economy as much as everything else, so is hurting for revenue right now), but has decided to charge their EMPLOYEES for parking...which is in essence a pay cut. They're unionized (tho' administrative people aren't included, but get the benefits of the union), so all hell is breaking loose.

All this at a time when Newsome has a plan now to remove a whole lot of on-street parking in order to make way for "pocket parks" all over the City. Parking in SF is HORRIBLE, even the garages fill up sometimes, and if you go for a medical appointment, either take along a hunk of money for parking or go hours early to search for on-street parking, which you might not find anyway. Duh...unclear on the doncept...

If the Board all quit, there's nobody to sign checks and everything comes to a screeching halt. It's a mess.

Not only that, but Jim rides Muni often, and says people come in the "exit" door in the back, so don't pay; the drivers don't give a damn although they're well aware of it, so the City loses money steadily...and it's not a pitling amount.

All big cities face these kinds of snafus, I know, but it's not fair to laud SF while omitting them. There's more, but this is enough in fairness t say that yes, all the things Newsome cited are true, but at the same time, SF is royally screwed up.

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Monday, March 1, 2010 9:11 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Nothing to add here, except that I love your new sig! :)

I could point you to the original post where mine came from, if you'd like.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Monday, March 1, 2010 9:20 AM

HERO

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Nothing to add here, except that I love your new sig! :)

Your both quoting me...well done. Now...DANCE!

(insert Evil laugh here)

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Monday, March 1, 2010 9:27 AM

KWICKO

Ah, yes. "Hero" apparently believes that any publicity is good publicity. He utterly misses the point that we're quoting him at his most idiotic. 'Course, that said, we could be quoting him almost any time he posts, and he'd be at his most idiotic...

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Monday, March 1, 2010 9:33 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I agree. No harm in letting people just coming in know what they're gonna be dealing with...

I dunno who "Hero" is, actually...I ran across a post I thought was particularly hilarious, so put it up as kind of a warning and when I need a giggle or two. If anyone wants to take it as a positive rather than an insult, hey, I've got no power over that.

I USED to know several guys who were here once, one was a guy who clled himself "Hero"another I called "Crappy", and an "OTB"...but they don't exist now, so it's of no import to me. Now and again I hear whistles on the wind, gurgles which might be from a troll under the bridge, pissing into the wind, farts which sound like a bull

ing, but I know they're not real, so most of the time I ignore them. There was one called "PN", too, but I just always read the first line then had to scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll to get past the rest of the insane paranoid delusions...

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Monday, March 1, 2010 1:56 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Y'all accepting applications for new residents?

... $9.75 an hour is seriously more than I've ever made in my life. ...

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Tuesday, March 2, 2010 3:26 AM

HERO

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ah, yes. "Hero" apparently believes that any publicity is good publicity. He utterly misses the point that we're quoting him at his most idiotic. 'Course, that said, we could be quoting him almost any time he posts, and he'd be at his most idiotic...

In the first case, as I noted at the time, I was going for the funny. And clearly I nailed it.

In the second case I was and am right and you just display it for all to see while demonstrating your slavish devotion to my every word, thought, and deed.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:16 AM

JONGSSTRAW

SF's a nice city to visit, but it is bankrupt, just like the entire state is.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-12-09/bay-area/17131535_1_midyear-cuts
-mayor-s-budget-director-discretionary-spending

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Tuesday, March 2, 2010 8:40 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Yes, Phoenix, it's a lovely place to live and work for the most part, and we do have a lower unemployment rate than the rest of CA. I'm proud of the "values", but the situation is tough nonetheless. And it's damned expensive to live there, tho' not as bad as Marin. It's "less bankrupt" than most of CA, JS, too, but that doesn't say much, given the situation CA is in!

Jim's job is probably on the line, as are many others...but those are the times everywhere, not just in SF. If I gotta be in these bad times, and I do, I'd rather spend them here in Marin OR in the City than anywhere else. I'm on the fence about his job; he's 71 and still working four days a week, and if I know him will go on working if he can until he drops dead. We argue about it constantly; we could get by without him working--it would be tough, but I'd rather have him not working and able to ENJOY life just a bit than have more money stashed away--money doesn't guarantee anything unless you got a whole lot of it!

But in truth, the City is a wonderful place if you're YOUNG...not so much if you're our age.

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Tuesday, March 2, 2010 8:51 AM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ah, yes. "Hero" apparently believes that any publicity is good publicity. He utterly misses the point that we're quoting him at his most idiotic. 'Course, that said, we could be quoting him almost any time he posts, and he'd be at his most idiotic...

In the first case, as I noted at the time, I was going for the funny. And clearly I nailed it.

You're lying. You never noted it, "at the time" or at any other time, and in fact later even acknowledged it as one of your more bone-headed statements. Trying to go back and rewrite history at this point just makes you seem all the more desperate to "prove" how right you think you are, in the face of all evidence to the contrary. Just admit you've failed, and move on.

Quote:

In the second case I was and am right and you just display it for all to see while demonstrating your slavish devotion to my every word, thought, and deed.

My, you DO have a high opinion of yourself, don't you? Y'know, I've lost fewer trials than you have. ;)

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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