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Williams steps aside as chairman of Tea Party Express

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Friday, July 16, 2010 10:56 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Good riddance to bad racist rubbish...if only he were actually "going"! Can't help wondering if the cries of "racism" might have something to do with this...
Quote:

Conservative radio talk show host and prominent Tea Party activist Mark Williams is giving up his role as the chairman of the Tea Party Express, Williams told CNN Saturday.

Williams said his decision stemmed from his involvement in two other major projects.

One is opposing the construction of a mosque near the site of Ground Zero in New York, where the twin towers of the World Trade Center were destroyed by Islamist hijackers on September 11, 2001.

The other is leading a recall effort against some members of the Sacramento City Council and running for a spot on the local body himself after the council voted to boycott Arizona over its new immigration law.

"What I'm doing is thinking globally and acting locally," Williams said of his bi-coastal commitments.

Williams said he will continue to be involved with the Tea Party Express as a spokesman, a featured speaker at the group's events, in television and print media and generally as a public face of the organization.

But Williams will be taking a back seat when it comes to the Tea Party Express' day-to-day managerial responsibilities.

"I'll still be shooting my mouth off and appearing on TV," said Williams. "I just won't be as critical in strategy which is fine by me."

Yes, I'm sure he will.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off



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Friday, July 16, 2010 11:27 AM

WHOZIT


I don't remember you having much to say about the "New Black Panther Party" there NIKI?

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Friday, July 16, 2010 11:35 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


I love it when people start to wake up, and call bullshit where they see it.

Thanks Whozit, you just made my day.

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Friday, July 16, 2010 1:17 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
I love it when people start to wake up, and call bullshit where they see it.

Thanks Whozit, you just made my day.




Funny, because I don't remember either of you speaking out against Mark Williams, either! It IS awesome when people wake up and call bullshit. Hopefully someday you'll wake up.


Glad to see you've finally figured out it's the "NEW" Black Panther Party, though. And they're idiots. How many members do they have? Three, maybe? Their dipshits and racists, pure and simple. And I'm sure I'm at least as concerned about them as President Bush's DOJ was; I've already condemned them far more than his administration ever did!

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Friday, July 16, 2010 1:19 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


And the white liberal guilteristas start weighing in.

Cool.


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Friday, July 16, 2010 1:26 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
I love it when people start to wake up, and call bullshit where they see it.

Thanks Whozit, you just made my day.




Funny, because I don't remember either of you speaking out against Mark Williams, either! It IS awesome when people wake up and call bullshit. Hopefully someday you'll wake up.


Glad to see you've finally figured out it's the "NEW" Black Panther Party, though. And they're idiots. How many members do they have? Three, maybe? Their dipshits and racists, pure and simple. And I'm sure I'm at least as concerned about them as President Bush's DOJ was; I've already condemned them far more than his administration ever did!

Us rightys will eat our own, you leftys will defend the most disgusting slime in your ranks. Example;

Chuck Rangle

Mel Reynolds

William Jefferson

OPPS!! They're all black, I guess I'm a bigot.

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Friday, July 16, 2010 1:46 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Yeah, that was me "defending" the NBPP...


"OPPS" - No, it wasn't!


Wulfie? I thought you were against racism EVERYWHERE. Did I read that wrong? So calling out racism on either side is what you consider a "liberal white guilterista" tactic? It's white guilt or liberalism to call the NBPP guys a bunch of racist assholes?

Curious.


By the way, how do you figure the "liberal white guilteristas" have *started* weighing in in this thread, if it was started by one of those very same "liberal white guilteristas"? Don't you mean that, by you and The Zit showing up, the racist white assholes have started weighing in?

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Friday, July 16, 2010 1:50 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
I don't remember you having much to say about the "New Black Panther Party" there NIKI?



Notice how they still say nothing.

Our President has uttered more " racist " remarks than any Tea Party leader or higher up.

Remember, his grandmother was a " typical white person". Might not sound racist, but by the shallow standards the Left uses, it's every bit as racist as....oh, wait. There IS nothing the Tea Party folks say in their message that's racist.

Never mind.




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Friday, July 16, 2010 1:55 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Kwick.. you really dont get it do you?

The Tea Party isnt racist.. but the NAACP and their supporters would like you to believe it.

What better way to cut the legs out of a movement than to call them racist?

Well, I guess you could call them anti-semetic...

waiting for the moles to start showing up with signs like "Israel is the terrorist!" Or did that already happen?

Its hard to keep track of all the morons, posing as members, trying to get themselves on the internet with a picture to undermine the movement.


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Friday, July 16, 2010 2:03 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Kwick.. you really dont get it do you?

The Tea Party isnt racist.. but the NAACP and their supporters would like you to believe it.

What better way to cut the legs out of a movement than to call them racist?

Well, I guess you could call them anti-semetic...

waiting for the moles to start showing up with signs like "Israel is the terrorist!" Or did that already happen?

Its hard to keep track of all the morons, posing as members, trying to get themselves on the internet with a picture to undermine the movement.





Wait - you're now saying that Mark Williams has been acting as a "mole" all this time, just to undermine the Tea Party? Really?

And when you speak of these "moles", do you include the supposed "SIEU thugs" in that group, since it's been alleged that many conservative activists have shown up at rallies in SIEU shirts to harass conservatives and make the left look bad?

It's already been shown that there absolutely ARE racist elements within the Tea Party. If y'all can't clean your own house, that's a you problem, not a me problem.

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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Friday, July 16, 2010 2:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
What better way to cut the legs out of a movement than to call them racist?

What planet are you on at the moment? Since when has a movement had its legs cut out from under it because someone merely called it "racist?" Remember Rev. Wright? He was called racist seven ways to Sunday, as was Barack Obama for going to his church--racist, racist, racist--and what happened? Obama, despite being called a racist over and over again like a mantra, was elected President of the United States!

Wulf, you have maybe a good point every 50 posts or so, but you drown 'em out with overheated nonsense like this. Why do you continue to give a shit what Kwicko thinks?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Friday, July 16, 2010 3:54 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Niki2:Good riddance to bad racist rubbish...if only he were actually "going"! Can't help wondering if the cries of "racism" might have something to do with this...



Evidence of ANY racism, Niki ?


Seriously..... put up or shut up.




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Friday, July 16, 2010 5:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Evidence of ANY racism, Niki?


Seriously..... put up or shut up.





Well, I'm not Niki, but here's some fresh reading material for ya. Not that you CAN read, of course...

http://blog.reidreport.com/2010/07/mark-williams-explains-defends-colo
red-people-post
/

http://blog.reidreport.com/2010/07/tea-partier-mark-williams-writes-op
en-letter-to-lincoln-from-the-coloreds/#more-15246



Seems Williams has yanked down his "letter to Lincoln" from his own site, not having the guts to stand behind his own racist rhetoric once it was pointed out. But it's too late, since it was already copied and mirrored on several other sites.

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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Friday, July 16, 2010 11:55 PM

AURAPTOR

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In-artful, perhaps, but not racist.

Comes no where near the level of vitriol and mean spirited nonsense for which the tea party is being attacked.

The 'racism' cry is nothing but an attempt to marginalize the Tea Party, and keep the Left from having to discuss the issues. Because that's where they'd lose. Instead, the race mongers at the naaLcp ( national association for the advancement of LEFTIST colored people ) don't want serious debate, all they want to do is sloganeer and divide.




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Saturday, July 17, 2010 1:34 AM

QUESTIONABLEQUESTIONALITY


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
In-artful, perhaps, but not racist.

Comes no where near the level of vitriol and mean spirited nonsense for which the tea party is being attacked.

The 'racism' cry is nothing but an attempt to marginalize the Tea Party, and keep the Left from having to discuss the issues. Because that's where they'd lose. Instead, the race mongers at the naaLcp ( national association for the advancement of LEFTIST colored people ) don't want serious debate, all they want to do is sloganeer and divide.







I'm tellin ya.. them niggers be something else

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Saturday, July 17, 2010 1:40 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by QuestionableQuestionality:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
In-artful, perhaps, but not racist.

Comes no where near the level of vitriol and mean spirited nonsense for which the tea party is being attacked.

The 'racism' cry is nothing but an attempt to marginalize the Tea Party, and keep the Left from having to discuss the issues. Because that's where they'd lose. Instead, the race mongers at the naaLcp ( national association for the advancement of LEFTIST colored people ) don't want serious debate, all they want to do is sloganeer and divide.







I'm tellin ya.. them niggers be something else




I take it you're with the Tea Party...


I'm not sure how someone becomes "LEFTIST colored", but I'm guessing it would be some shade of blue?

As for sloganeering and dividing... are you angry because you think the left is taking a page out of your playbook? It's all you've done for years.

"Death Panels!"
"Drill Baby Drill!"
"Death Tax!"
"The Party of HELL NO!"
"Mission Accomplished!"
"Let's Roll!"


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Saturday, July 17, 2010 6:54 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Sigh...I didn't reply because I got caught up in other things and didn't follow this thread. Shees.

To begin with, of COURSE I hate this New Black Panther thing, but mostly I think the fuss about the supposed "voter intimidation" thing is absurd:

The BUSH District Attorney's office stated that they had not been contacted by any voters with complaints of intimidation. The New Black Panther with the nightstick was escorted away by the police.

It took place at an almost entirely African-American polling place. There were 1,435 registered voters; only 84 of them were Republicans. In 2008, exactly EIGHT VOTES went for Bush; 382 for Gore. In 2004, 501 for Kerry, 24 for Bush. That polling place had historically gone VASTLY democratic in enormous numbers, so if they did intimidate anyone, why did nobody complain?

BUSH Administration Thomas Perez testified: "After reviewing the matter, the Civil Rights Division determined the facts did not constitute a prosecutable violation of the criminal statute." On January 7, 2009, the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) filed a civil suit instead. BEFORE Obama came into office.

Between June 30 and July 14 of 2010, Fox News covered the story 95 times, including 45 segments on America Live with Megyn Kelly.

The whole thing is absurd; a couple of guys with overblown egos wanting attention, and it's been blown out of proportion to make some kind of weird point...the fact that it was so long ago shows just how desperate the effort is.

In addition, even people in the Republican side are decrying it:
Quote:

Here’s what Thernstrom, “a scholar whom President George W. Bush appointed as vice chairwoman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights” who “has a reputation as a tough conservative critic of affirmative action and politically correct positions on race” told Ben Smith at Politico:
Quote:

“This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers; this has to do with their fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” said Thernstrom, who said members of the commission voiced their political aims “in the initial discussions” of the Panther case last year.

“My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president”.


Oof. And this from Linda Chavez, president of the Center for Equal Opportunity and a Fox News contributor.

“Because it’s 24-hour news and cable news and Fox News — this is the kind of story, like the ACORN story, that’s got pictures that you can run over and over again.”



As to racism within the Tea Party, I already posted this. It's quite enough evidence to show without a doubt that there are racist elements within them, and DEFINITELY within their leaders:

Quote:

You want some proof of racism in the Tea Party, Crappy? I'll give you just a taste.

We’ve all seen the poster now of Obama as a witch doctor. Dr. David McKalip forwarded it to fellow members of a Google listserv affiliated with the Tea Party movement.


The guy holding this sign? He’s the Texas tea party leader Dale Robertson


Carl Paladino, the Tea Party favorite for New York governor sent e-mails to friends, including:

- A video entitled "Obama Inauguration Rehearsal." The video shows an African tribesman dancing, and is apparently popular among white supremacists.
- An email with the subject line "Proof the Irish discovered Africa" containing a video of monkeys that appear to be doing a Riverdance-style jig
- A “motivational poster”:

- A photo of Barack and Michelle depicted as a pimp and a ho:


Then there’s this, from Tea Party protests:



And posted on the Twitter page of the Springboro Tea Party by Sonny Thomas, the group’s founder:
“Illegals everywhere today! So many spics makes me feel like a speck. Grrr. Wheres my gun!?”

That’s a sampling, enough for anyone to state “There is a racist aspect to the Tea Party movement”. One blogger said it perfectly:
Quote:

Regardless of all the well-informed, thoughtful members of the Tea Party movement, the racist Americans out there are migrating towards the movement. Since the leadership of the movement will not create a specific and clear statement declaring its complete and udder contempt for racism in any form, it by default embraces it.

I do feel sorry for the "good" conservatives out there. It must be difficult to make your voice heard among such rabble.

Although there is lots and lots more, I rest my case..If they'd call them out, it would go a long way. They won't, they'd rather bitch about being called racist.

Personally, I never thought the entire Tea Party was racist, or even the majority of them, and I don't think many people do believe that. Those who ARE racist within their ranks get attention because they are overt, dramatic, and carry ugly signs. If the Tea Party didn't want to be called racist, they should make some effort to negate that appearance...certainly those people have the same right to show up and be heard, but if they'd been called out, or if anyone in the Tea Party had EVER said in any speech that racism was bad and they didn't condone it within their ranks, this wouldn't be an issue...the focus would have been on those who were overtly racist and it wouldn't have spread to the whole Party being called that.

However, when you have a convention and, in an auditorium full of Tea Partiers, the speaker says we should go back to the Jim Crow laws, the literacy test before you can vote, says people are allowed to vote who can’t even spell “vote”, and the crowd whistles, cheers and applauds him, the appearance becomes obvious.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


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Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:01 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Sigh...I didn't reply because I got caught up in other things and didn't follow this thread. Shees.

To begin with, of COURSE I hate this New Black Panther thing, but mostly I think the fuss about the supposed "voter intimidation" thing is absurd:

The BUSH District Attorney's office stated that they had not been contacted by any voters with complaints of intimidation. The New Black Panther with the nightstick was escorted away by the police.

It took place at an almost entirely African-American polling place. There were 1,435 registered voters; only 84 of them were Republicans. In 2008, exactly EIGHT VOTES went for Bush; 382 for Gore. In 2004, 501 for Kerry, 24 for Bush. That polling place had historically gone VASTLY democratic in enormous numbers, so if they did intimidate anyone, why did nobody complain?

BUSH Administration Thomas Perez testified: "After reviewing the matter, the Civil Rights Division determined the facts did not constitute a prosecutable violation of the criminal statute." On January 7, 2009, the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) filed a civil suit instead. BEFORE Obama came into office.

Between June 30 and July 14 of 2010, Fox News covered the story 95 times, including 45 segments on America Live with Megyn Kelly.

The whole thing is absurd; a couple of guys with overblown egos wanting attention, and it's been blown out of proportion to make some kind of weird point...the fact that it was so long ago shows just how desperate the effort is.

In addition, even people in the Republican side are decrying it:
Quote:

Here’s what Thernstrom, “a scholar whom President George W. Bush appointed as vice chairwoman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights” who “has a reputation as a tough conservative critic of affirmative action and politically correct positions on race” told Ben Smith at Politico:
Quote:

“This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers; this has to do with their fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” said Thernstrom, who said members of the commission voiced their political aims “in the initial discussions” of the Panther case last year.

“My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president”.


Oof. And this from Linda Chavez, president of the Center for Equal Opportunity and a Fox News contributor.

“Because it’s 24-hour news and cable news and Fox News — this is the kind of story, like the ACORN story, that’s got pictures that you can run over and over again.”



As to racism within the Tea Party, I already posted this. It's quite enough evidence to show without a doubt that there are racist elements within them, and DEFINITELY within their leaders:

Quote:

You want some proof of racism in the Tea Party, Crappy? I'll give you just a taste.

We’ve all seen the poster now of Obama as a witch doctor. Dr. David McKalip forwarded it to fellow members of a Google listserv affiliated with the Tea Party movement.


The guy holding this sign? He’s the Texas tea party leader Dale Robertson


Carl Paladino, the Tea Party favorite for New York governor sent e-mails to friends, including:

- A video entitled "Obama Inauguration Rehearsal." The video shows an African tribesman dancing, and is apparently popular among white supremacists.
- An email with the subject line "Proof the Irish discovered Africa" containing a video of monkeys that appear to be doing a Riverdance-style jig
- A “motivational poster”:

- A photo of Barack and Michelle depicted as a pimp and a ho:


Then there’s this, from Tea Party protests:



And posted on the Twitter page of the Springboro Tea Party by Sonny Thomas, the group’s founder:
“Illegals everywhere today! So many spics makes me feel like a speck. Grrr. Wheres my gun!?”

That’s a sampling, enough for anyone to state “There is a racist aspect to the Tea Party movement”. One blogger said it perfectly:
Quote:

Regardless of all the well-informed, thoughtful members of the Tea Party movement, the racist Americans out there are migrating towards the movement. Since the leadership of the movement will not create a specific and clear statement declaring its complete and udder contempt for racism in any form, it by default embraces it.

I do feel sorry for the "good" conservatives out there. It must be difficult to make your voice heard among such rabble.

Although there is lots and lots more, I rest my case..If they'd call them out, it would go a long way. They won't, they'd rather bitch about being called racist.

Personally, I never thought the entire Tea Party was racist, or even the majority of them, and I don't think many people do believe that. Those who ARE racist within their ranks get attention because they are overt, dramatic, and carry ugly signs. If the Tea Party didn't want to be called racist, they should make some effort to negate that appearance...certainly those people have the same right to show up and be heard, but if they'd been called out, or if anyone in the Tea Party had EVER said in any speech that racism was bad and they didn't condone it within their ranks, this wouldn't be an issue...the focus would have been on those who were overtly racist and it wouldn't have spread to the whole Party being called that.

However, when you have a convention and, in an auditorium full of Tea Partiers, the speaker says we should go back to the Jim Crow laws, the literacy test before you can vote, says people are allowed to vote who can’t even spell “vote”, and the crowd whistles, cheers and applauds him, the appearance becomes obvious.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


I bet you leftys long for the days when you made posters of Bush made up as Hitler. Trash and "Starbucks" lately?

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Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:13 AM

DREAMTROVE


Just curious... Did anyone already point out that Tea Party Express is a fraud? This is Sal Russo and co, the former Recall Gray Davis Committee, who arranged the CA recall in such a way that only a republican could win, creating the Governator, and then renamed themselves "Move America Forward" the GOP counter-operative to MoveOn.org. Now they are Tea Party Express, which goes around the country in a bus collecting money from moronic tea partiers, money which they then keep. They're essentially pan-handlers, crooks, thieves, etc. I'm not sure why they're even given the time of day.

Meanwhile, what's the agenda of anyone for saying such things? Everyone knows it would be racist and offensive to say them even if they believed them, which is unlikely. Think about it. Not only would you lose the support of everyone ever, but who would actually believe such a thing? I've never run into this argument from anyone, against the emancipation proclamation. I think we were just trashing lincoln a second ago here, but certainly not for that.

Anyway, all I can think off the top of my head was that this was either a desperate cry for publicity, even knowing it was negative, probably in an effort to discredit the Tea Party, after not gaining the leadership role that MAF wanted to have in the GOP and never got, and now hasn't gotten in the Tea Party. But I'm open to any other ideas.

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Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:20 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, DT, it was gone into a long time ago, with facts on who has been financing the various Tea Party "protests" and the TP Express, etc., but was of course ignored by anyone supporting them. Remember; If it doesn't side with what you want to believe, it either doesn't exist or there's some way to rationalize it. RWA.

As to Williams, I kind of think it's how he actually FEELS. Look at his history, his speeches and writing, and it's pretty obvious. It could be a cry for publicity, that's certainly possible, as he has mouthed off numerous times before and done things that outrageous enough to get him attention. But I really believe this is how he feels...check him out and see what you think.


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Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:34 AM

DREAMTROVE


ETA: After some more reading about this Williams guy I decided he less has an agenda than that he's a fucking moron. Calling the Tea Party racist is like saying crazy eddie. The proper response is ot dismiss it, not prove your accuser right ;)


Niki

1. Tea Party is 15 million people. Tea Party Express is three people. I don't think what you say of one automatically reflects on the other

2. Everytime you say RWA, you lose me 100%. It's not even worth arguing. It's like if I stopped calling democrats "democrats" and instead called them the "demoklan."

3. These guys remind me more of Custer Battles than of any actual political front. They're pretty serious scam artists.

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Saturday, July 17, 2010 3:47 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
2. Everytime you say RWA, you lose me 100%. It's not even worth arguing. It's like if I stopped calling democrats "democrats" and instead called them the "demoklan."


And that's YOUR blind spot, refusing to EVER acknowledge some folk might take the political positions they do, associate with the parties they do, for personal psychological-issue reasons which have not one thing to do with the actual platform or objectives of that party, hooked in simply by rhetoric which resonates with their own psychological malfunctions.

Seriously, WTF do you think *I* play on, a good chunk of the time when I go round trying to unfuck the mess that Detroit has become by subverting some of the very GOP-slobbering jackboot-wanna-be hangers-on that helped fucking wreck it in the first place, just by playing TO the evil overlord gig even BETTER and more honestly, straightforward, since such folks are indeed would-be evil empire minions and HAPPY to be so ?

And speaking of political sites - I know this comic was aimed at childrens TV exploitation, but yanno EVERY DAMN TIME I see some site with a donation bar or thermometer I think of this.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/1/5/
Cause for 90% of em, getting the money out of you *IS* the point, the entire point, and the lies they use to do it don't matter a single fuckin whit.

And yes, Detroit is being cranked out of the bottom of the pit one inch at a time, and Worthy & Co are finally feeling the heat, if you read the news and can read between the lines of the shit everyone is trying oh so hard NOT to say as they as-usual, dance around all the elephants in the room cause no one wants to be the first in line to take the flamethrowing for asking...
Questions.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:37 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

1. Tea Party is 15 million people. Tea Party Express is three people. I don't think what you say of one automatically reflects on the other



And in a similar vein, the black population of the U.S. is around 12% of 308 million people, or roughly 37 million people. The "New Black Panther Party" is three people. I don't think what the right says of one automatically reflects on the other, either.

Also, the NAACP numbers around 300,000 members, to the NBPP's 3.

As long as you want to talk about numbers and comparisons and fairness...

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Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:36 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Too many numbers, Kwicko, too many FACTS!

You're making Woofie's and Rappy's heads hurt...

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Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:54 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


DT, I don’t know where you got your idea the Tea Party Express was three people. Their bus tour and rallies have been all over the country. That they don't represent the philosophy or aims of the real Tea Party, and their financing is questionable, I agree, but there are more than three.

As for RWA, Frem answered that one for me. I’m sad you can’t see beyond that particular blind spot, but it doesn’t lessen the veracity of referring to people who fit the profile to a T. I use it to delineate between what I believe are reasonable, thinking Conservatives, Republicans, Tea Partiers and that which is evidenced on this board by people who perfectly reflect the RWA mentality.

I don’t know what the actual total is, I saw it yesterday but a QUICK search doesn’t bring it up again today. But it was several thousand I believe, across the country, not three Mike. Three participated in the situation that’s in the news, but no, they have more members. The actual Black Panther Party proclaims loudly that they have no affiliation and denounces them.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


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