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Where's the Tea Party's 'Clean Sweep'?

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Thursday, August 5, 2010 7:25 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


There's indication that the "clean sweep" the Tea Partiers may be bragging about is going to be tougher than they thought. Their primary victories pretty much equalled their losses; can they corral enough voters in the general to prevail?

In general:
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Were Tuesday's decisive primary losses in Missouri and Michigan the beginning of the end for the Tea Party? When it came to primaries, the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party was unable even to win over the Republican wing in places.
From Idaho:
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A low-turnout primary election has caused havoc in Idaho’s Republican Party, with everything from Tea Party activism to social media hijinks contributing to such surprising results as the defeat of six sitting GOP lawmakers and an upset in the congressional race.

Among those losing their seats on Tuesday were state Sen. Gary Schroeder, R-Moscow, a nine-term senator and chairman of the Senate Resources Committee, and state Sen. Mike Jorgenson, R-Hayden Lake, a third-term senator and chairman of the Idaho Indian Affairs Council.

Schroeder lost to a Tea Party activist, prompting much speculation that the moderate Latah County district could fall to the Democrats in the November general election. Moderate state Sen. Chuck Coiner, R-Twin Falls, also was defeated in the primary, as were moderate state Sen. Lee Heinrich, R-Cascade; conservative state Rep. Steve Kren, R-Nampa; and conservative state Rep. Rich Jarvis, R-Meridian, who lost to the man he replaced, former Rep. John Vander Woude.

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Statewide, just 27 percent of registered voters went to the polls; in Kootenai County, the turnout was even lower, between 20 and 22 percent.

“There’s so much attention and so much focus, and yet the turnout is so low,” said Norm Semanko, Idaho Republican Party chairman, who said the turnout was his one big disappointment about the primary election.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/may/26/primary-shakes-idaho-repu
blican-party
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Wisconsin:
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Will the balance of power in Washington and Madison shift with this fall’s elections?

That’s a tough call right now because we still don’t know who will be on the ballot in the November election. The party primary elections, to be held Sept. 7, will determine the candidates to represent each party in the November general election. A candidate who can win a primary because the party faithful loves him or her might also be a weak candidate in the November general election.

The thing is, even tea party activists haven’t decided which candidate they’ll support. Republican Party-endorsed businessman Ron Johnson came out of nowhere while counting on his alleged tea party—and right-wing talk radio—support. But tea partiers aren’t sold on him and the Republican endorsement he received isn’t necessarily helping him with the tea party crowd, which generally distrusts both established parties. Plus, Johnson will spend millions and millions of dollars on his race. In contrast, organic farmer David Westlake is running a grassroots campaign that’s more in tune with the movement, and tea partiers in his part of the state like him. Whether that’s enough to push him over the line is anyone’s guess.

http://www.npaper-wehaa.com/shepherdexpress/2010/07/20/#?article=94529
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Ohio:
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With the election season more than halfway over, the Tea Party movement has notched some impressive victories but also learned a hard lesson: There are limits to the power of its anger-fueled insurgency.

The movement scored a big win last week in South Carolina, where state Rep. Nikki Haley romped past a four-term congressman to win the GOP nomination for governor. Still, for all the attention the Tea Party has gotten and all the passion of its followers, a rough accounting at the ballot box shows the movement has just about as many losses as victories.

Money has been an impediment. Organization — or, rather, the lack of it — has become another.

''Just being a Tea Party candidate or being an outsider is not enough,'' said Nathan Gonzales, who tracks elections nationwide for the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report. ''You have to have money to establish a level of credibility in order to win. You have to have an organization and a focus to have an effect.''

The two candidates who have arguably done the most to raise the party banner, Senate candidates Rand Paul in Kentucky and Sharron Angle in Nevada, were both well funded: Paul through supporters of his father, former Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul, and Angle through a hefty cash infusion from the anti-tax group Club for Growth.

Most Tea Party candidates have been less fortunate. In the California primary for U.S. Senate, GOP Assemblyman Chuck DeVore of Irvine was a favorite of the movement, but fell to the millions spent by wealthy businesswoman Carly Fiorina, a more mainstream Republican.

The Tea Party has yet to prove its long-term viability, or whether followers can accomplish more than raising a sizable ruckus. The key test will come in November, when movement-backed candidates test their appeal outside the friendly confines of a GOP primary, courting disaffected Democrats and, more importantly, independent voters

The losses, besides California, include races in Texas, Indiana, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Virginia. In part, that reflects the splintered nature of the movement.

http://www.ohio.com/news/nation/97252174.html

Doesn't sound all that good for their midterm viability. As noted, it's easier to pull in voteres in a primary than to win with hard-core ideologues in a general. We'll have to wait and see...


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Thursday, August 5, 2010 7:59 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Well, their little "electronic advantage" around here kinda failed yesterday as all the modems used by this countys voting machines and precincts all kinda went kerblooie all at once in a shocking and surprising coincidence - kinda like how the GOP always wins the Secretary of State office (responsible in great part for election supervision) by 18181 votes, every single year despite the polls running up to 70% against them, such coincidences are kinda common around here, don't you know.

They seemed be rather annoyed that in each and every case the vehicle transporting the votes for hand count was followed and under electronic observation the entire time, oh what a pity...

Guess that predicted GOP "landslide" ISN'T going to happen this year, not in *THIS* county, it ain't.

-Frem

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Thursday, August 5, 2010 8:07 AM

NIKI2

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I don't want to think about the electronic voting machines and other various ways these things go wrong. Smoke comes out my ears evey time I do.

Got a bumpersticker that says it all: "Who votes doesn't matter, who COUNTS the votes does".

Would be enjoyable to see their grandiose predictions fail...especially right here


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Thursday, August 5, 2010 9:20 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I was greatly dismayed to see the Republicans gain so much influence in the Tea Party after the last elections. Many may have forgotten that the Tea Party was NOT a Republican wing just a short time ago. I think things started down that path when Ron Paul went from Libertarian/Independent to Republican in order to 'restore the Republican party to its core principles.' A lot of folks switched to Republican in order to support Paul. I did. Then I switched back when he didn't make it to the end of the race. I still wish he had run under a 3rd party banner. I think he'd have been a real factor right to the presidential election.

Many have forgotten that the Tea Party diverged from the Republicans on many key issues. They desired to end the wars. They desired to legalize marijuana. They wanted audits of the Federal Bank. They wanted to string up illegal wiretappers (metaphorically.) They wanted an end to torture and endless detainment. These were Tea Party values adopted largely from Libertarian influences. These are values that the Republican and Democratic parties have variously shied away from whenever they thought it was politically inexpedient.

I'm not entirely sure what the Tea Party stands for nowadays. They are so friendly with Republican supporters that I fear they've been largely coopted. However, if their core values are still in place, we might wish for many Tea Partiers to get elected to office. Real Change does not appear to be forthcoming from typical Democrats or Republicans. If these Tea Party candidates are still angling for things like No More War, No More Torture, No More Insipid Drug Laws, and No More Privacy Violations, then we may wish for them to gain a firm hold on the political landscape.

If, however, they're just typical Republicans, I'll pass.

--Anthony

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Thursday, August 5, 2010 10:46 AM

WHOZIT


The Democrat controled Congress has an 11% apporval rating, Polltser Charlie Cook says over 70 Democrat house seats are "in play", and you dopes are on the internet and on cable infotainment shows are still talking about the Tea Party, Sarah Palin and FOX News? This is the best ya got?

We rightys have;

Barry's approval at 41%

Gaffe Master Biden

Crooked congressman Rangle

Crooked congresswoman Waters

Creepy Brany Frank

Speaker Botox Pelosi

Majority leader Dimwit Reid

MSNBC

CNN

Newsweek being bought for $1

The New Black Panter Party

This is why right-wing talk radio, the Drudge report and FOX News are kicking ass and taking names, they have so munh more to talk and report about.

Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin

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Thursday, August 5, 2010 10:52 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


Sure, you may have a lot to talk about. Too bad hardly any of it is "news" or factually correct.


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Thursday, August 5, 2010 10:58 AM

KANEMAN


Who has ever said there is going to be a tea party "clean sweep"....Ah no-one...you are making shit up again.

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Thursday, August 5, 2010 11:13 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Zit, EVERY seat in the House is "in play". Every single one, with the exception of the Resident Commissioner of Puerto Rico. In addition, 37 Senate seats are in play.

The questions that matter are:

1) Will the Republicans gain seats?

2) Will they gain a majority?

3) Will they gain a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate?

4) Will they gain a VETO-PROOF majority (more than 2/3) of both the House and Senate)?

Without all of those things happening, Republicans really aren't going to be able to do anything except continue to yell "NO!" at Democrats.

So what is it you think you're going to "win" come November? A "clean sweep" is a virtual impossibility; that veto-proof majority just isn't going to materialize.

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Thursday, August 5, 2010 11:17 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Cuda77:
Sure, you may have a lot to talk about. Too bad hardly any of it is "news" or factually correct.


I could say the same, the Tea Party dosen't control the Republican Party, Sarah Palin is not evil and stupid, FOX News is not a branch of the Republican Party. BUT! The unions control the Democrat party, Barry really is stupid, and everyone at MSNBC wants to have hot sweaty sex with him.

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Thursday, August 5, 2010 11:22 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Zit, EVERY seat in the House is "in play". Every single one, with the exception of the Resident Commissioner of Puerto Rico. In addition, 37 Senate seats are in play.

The questions that matter are:

1) Will the Republicans gain seats?

2) Will they gain a majority?

3) Will they gain a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate?

4) Will they gain a VETO-PROOF majority (more than 2/3) of both the House and Senate)?

Without all of those things happening, Republicans really aren't going to be able to do anything except continue to yell "NO!" at Democrats.

So what is it you think you're going to "win" come November? A "clean sweep" is a virtual impossibility; that veto-proof majority just isn't going to materialize.

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They have a very very good chance to win a majority in the house, they will pick up seats in the Senate but the experts are saying it's unlikly they'll gain controll of the Senate.

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Thursday, August 5, 2010 11:29 AM

NIKI2

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As to "clean sweep", the reference was to the many speakers/politicos/pundits who have said with certainty: "WHEN we take over the House and Senate..." like it's a foregone conclusion.

And yes, a goodly number of them HAVE.




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Thursday, August 5, 2010 11:45 AM

NIKI2

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Anthony, if that's what the CURRENT Tea Party stood for, I'd be interested. But they seem to mostly put up politicians who are either fringers or almost fringers, and what they say makes me either laugh, shake my head in wonder, or cringe to think of them actually getting into seats of POWER!

We do NOT need another Michelle Bachman running around like a chicken with her head cut off. Congress is ridiculous enough without people in it who have absolutely no grasp on reality!

I didn't know they were in favor of legalizing marijuana...I don't think that would sell with the American public, along with quite a few of their other ideas. People don't change that fast, for the most part.




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Thursday, August 5, 2010 11:53 AM

BYTEMITE


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We do NOT need another Michelle Bachman running around like a chicken with her head cut off. Congress is ridiculous enough without people in it who have absolutely no grasp on reality!


...And yet, as I imagine a bunch of rich suits in the Capitol Rotunda, running around frantically, flapping their arms, jumping on the tables and clucking, papers and inexplicable feathers floating around everywhere, I have a hard time rationalizing why this is a bad idea.

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Thursday, August 5, 2010 12:07 PM

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Thursday, August 5, 2010 12:45 PM

NIKI2

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Hee, hee, hee, Byte, I LOVE it! The image I got when reading that had me giggling...the chicken dance, not so much. I like what you described much better.

Given what idiots they make of themselves virtually every day, it would be neat to see them actually behaving as absurdly as what usually comes out of their mouths!


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Thursday, August 5, 2010 12:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:

They have a very very good chance to win a majority in the house, they will pick up seats in the Senate but the experts are saying it's unlikly they'll gain controll of the Senate.




Still not seeing how any of that repeals and replaces Obamacare, or undoes his agenda, or nullifies the Fourteenth Amendment, which are all the things those dumbasses in the tea parties and the GOP are running on.

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