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Democrats Run against Bush in November

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Friday, August 20, 2010 1:21 PM

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August 20, 2010
DNC deploys George W. Bush in new ad
Posted: August 20th, 2010 10:22 AM ET

From CNN's Jeff Simon

The DNC is out with a new ad Friday.
(CNN) - The Democratic National Committee is out Friday with a new television ad that looks forward to the November elections and closes with a cameo from former President George W. Bush.

Entitled "Big Choices," the ad frames the midterm elections as a choice between the policies of President Obama and national Democrats and the policies of Bush and the GOP. It captures a view of idealistic Americana –rolling fields of wheat, windmills, a teacher in a classroom, a welder in a factory–before Bush makes a surprise appearance with a verbal gaffe.

"You fool me, you can't get fooled again," Obama's Oval Office predecessor says in footage used in the ad.

The new 30-second spot is running on national cable stations.

Hello,

I think it is a mistake to run an anti-Bush ad after the ex-President has been gone from office for nearly 2 years.

If it implies that the Republicans haven't changed in that time, it also implies that the Democrats have nothing new to offer.

"Hope" and "Change" were once inspiring rally-words, but they are no longer options for the DNC now that they are in office. To invoke those words today would imply that things aren't going well and we should wish for them to improve. If all they've got left is "Bush Sucked" then I am beginning to agree with the partisans who say that the Republicans are going to demolish the Democrats come November.

And if the DNC can't do better than this, they may not deserve to win.

I again wish for a strong 3rd party. I'd prefer it was the Libertarian party, but I might settle for less if someone else could make a splash. Sadly, it's probably too late for a dark horse to gallop onto the field.

--Anthony

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Friday, August 20, 2010 1:29 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

W's still not running.

So, when they're not begging W to help Obama out with the Mosque issue, they're vilifying the man, for purely political purposes ?

" Does that seem right to you ? "

Gawd, I love dropping quotes from the 'verse, where ever they apply.

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Friday, August 20, 2010 1:29 PM

WHOZIT

They could run against Nixon, but he's dead. It's a good thing people arn't as stupid as they think they are.

Keith Olbermann is that stupid......and he's stupid.

Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin

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Friday, August 20, 2010 2:06 PM

HKCAVALIER

I dunno Anthony,

I don't see that ad as running against Bush, so much as I see it suggesting that nothing's substantively changed for the GOP since then. It outlines some Democratic selling points and uses Bush as the rhetorical punch line. I'd say he makes a better whipping boy than he did a President, but that's me. Until Republicans get a new face, Bush is it. Who else the Dems gonna put in their ad to represent the GOP?

Isn't it relevant that the GOP has nothing to add to the Bush legacy, no new ideas, just the same old ruinous policies kicked up to 11?

HKCavalier

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Friday, August 20, 2010 2:13 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

You know what a good political ad would be?

An advert that talks about the Democrats' progress and plans for America. The End.

If you need to find someone to bash in order to make your point, something is wrong with you. This is said about the anti-Obama bashers all the time. But the DNC is showcasing its bankruptcy of ideas and surrendering any semblance of higher-ground. If you ask me, it's a suicidal platform.

--Anthony

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Friday, August 20, 2010 2:21 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I agree 100% with Cavalier. I have no problem with that ad. People have forgotten so quickly how awful it was under Bush and that the Republicans have nothing to offer but more of the same. Nobody wonders what shit hole we'd be in if McCain/Palin had won; maybe they should.

The anger in America is largely because of where we were when Obama took office; he didn't fix that quickly enough, and we still have a long ways to go, so the anger continues. What Bush wrought continues to affect people personally, so if anything, the anger and frustration at their situation has grown, and it's only logical Obama and the Dems should be the target. Human nature wants SOMEONE to blame.

You can't prove a negative, as they say, but at least you can remind people of that negative and ask them if they REALLY want to go back to that?

I do, however agree with Anthony that

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An advert that talks about the Democrats' progress and plans for America. The End.

Negative campaigning is a standard tactic in America, unfortunately, but far better would be to offer something concrete, since the Repubicans can't and are running exclusively on "anti-Obama".

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Friday, August 20, 2010 2:26 PM

HKCAVALIER

Anthony,

If running negative ads were really political suicide, Washington would recreate Jonestown every election cycle.

I'm not a fan of generic partisan ads, but what more can the DNC do with a 30 sec spot?

I really don't think a 30 second spot is anything to go on, but even this ad spends 25 seconds to affirm its values and a single grammatical clause, taking 5 seconds to enunciate, on the Republicans. So you're saying it's political suicide even to mention Bush?

We'll see.

HKCavalier

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Friday, August 20, 2010 3:12 PM

ANTHONYT

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"the Repubicans can't and are running exclusively on "anti-Obama"."

Hello,

What an excellent opportunity to differentiate themselves from the Republicans. Perhaps I'm the only one sick and tired of this nonsense and looking for something different.

--Anthony

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Friday, August 20, 2010 3:15 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

...would be nice, wouldn't it? Just don't go holding your breath. Negative advertising, as Cav wrote, has been the name of the game for as long ss anyone can remember in politics.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Friday, August 20, 2010 3:20 PM

HKCAVALIER

It's been the name of the game, except, with maybe one or two exceptions, not the name of Barack Obama's game. I know, I know, the cynics can say that he just farmed the negativity out to the DNC, but Obama himself ran one of the cleanest campaigns in memory. I'd say it was a winning strategy.

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Friday, August 20, 2010 3:24 PM

ANTHONYT

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"Obama himself ran one of the cleanest campaigns in memory. I'd say it was a winning strategy."

Hello,

I agree with you. Clean is better. It was demonstrated. And now it's ignored.

--Anthony

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Friday, August 20, 2010 3:53 PM

RIVERLOVE

When is Obama going to man up? Ever? He's a pathetic little whiner, and it's long past due to take some responsibility for all his failures. Let's not forget that Obama is not the King, and didn't have the Presidency thrust upon him by royal birth. He wanted the job, he ran for the job, he campaigned and begged and made promises etc etc etc to get the job. And looking back now after 20 months, it is evident to anyone who can see and think that he told lie after lie after lie to get the job. Gee, who would'a thunk that after almost 2 years this modern-day Messiah/Johnny Eager/Professor Know-It-All would fail to do anything right, fail to simply do his job, and amazingly, gutlessly still be crying about George W. Bush? How utterly pathetic and cowardly of him, and any other Libs or Dems that do the same.

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Friday, August 20, 2010 3:56 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

River, you just suggested that anyone who disagrees with you is a pathetic coward.

--Anthony

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Friday, August 20, 2010 4:04 PM

RIVERLOVE

You should read it again, because the last line says "....gutlessly still be crying about George W. Bush? How utterly pathetic and cowardly of him, and any other Libs or Dems that do the same."
So relax Anthony, I'm not calling you a coward unless you are blaming George Bush now for Obama's failures and America's loss of confidence in him.

And if you don't believe that Obama is a failure, which is certainly possible, then why blame Bush for anything anyhow? Can't have it both ways, can ya? Or tell me, could it be a case of Democrats selectively cherry-picking issues and blame? Like if something's good, its Obama's handywork; but if it's bad, it's Bush's fault? That's were the gutless coward label really comes in to play in my book.

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Friday, August 20, 2010 4:22 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

I suppose I feel that people can be wrong and misguided on an issue, without feeling the need to apply monikers like 'pathetic' or 'coward' to them.

For my own part, I do feel that the former President spawned many ills, many of which we are still suffering from today.

However, I don't think there's any traction to be had for the DNC in focusing on an ex-president this far into the new presidency. It's time to look forward, not back. It's necessary to sell based on how they're going to improve the nation, a sales pitch based on Desire. To bring back the specter of Bush is to campaign based on Fear.

And that's what the Republicans are accused of, so how is the DNC setting itself apart? They are missing the opportunity to be better.

--Anthony

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Friday, August 20, 2010 4:30 PM

RIVERLOVE

I respect your post Anthony. "Pathetic" and "coward" are indeed strong words, yes, possibly even hurtful words. I don't apologize for using them though, because I'm being as honest as I can be about my feelings on this. I'm not in the gutter at all using those words, and no matter what comes in later, I'm keeping it clean. I'm not saying anything "in general" about the other side, just addressing the "blame Bush" topic.

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Friday, August 20, 2010 4:34 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

Oddly, every copy of this ad I find on the web is now listed 'private' and unwatchable.

I'm finally home and can see it, rather than merely reading a transcript. Only I can't.

--Anthony

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Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:39 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
When is Obama going to man up? Ever? He's a pathetic little whiner, and it's long past due to take some responsibility for all his failures. Let's not forget that Obama is not the King, and didn't have the Presidency thrust upon him by royal birth. He wanted the job, he ran for the job, he campaigned and begged and made promises etc etc etc to get the job. And looking back now after 20 months, it is evident to anyone who can see and think that he told lie after lie after lie to get the job. Gee, who would'a thunk that after almost 2 years this modern-day Messiah/Johnny Eager/Professor Know-It-All would fail to do anything right, fail to simply do his job, and amazingly, gutlessly still be crying about George W. Bush? How utterly pathetic and cowardly of him, and any other Libs or Dems that do the same.

Odd that you don't find it at all gutless, pathetic, or cowardly when Republicans do it...

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-29-2010/blame

Bush and his administration spent their entire 8 years blaming Clinton for every single thing that went wrong. 9/11? Clinton's fault. The crash of 2007-08? Clinton.

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