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Weiner apologizes to Breitbart , admits guilt in naughty tweets.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 10:53 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Give the guy credit, he stood up to the podium and took the questions...


But lied.

Blatantly

To his wife, his constituents and the US public.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 11:04 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


First, sour grapes from KOS...

Quote:

At a press conerence just now, Anthony Weiner has accepted responsibility for sending the infamous tweet that has dominated news for the past week. He's also apologized for having misled his supporters and the media by claiming his account had been hacked. Weiner says he's had online relationships with a half-dozen or so women over the years, but that he hasn't met them in person. Weiner says he won't resign over his personal mistakes, embarrassing though they may be.

You can watch the press conference live here.

Update: The fucking media wants Weiner to apologize to Andrew Breitbart, which Weiner delivers. And the fucking media wants to know where his wife is. What assholes.



They're only assholes because they (said media) asked for the truth, which obviously the dick heads at TDK went to great lengths to obscure and hide from the public.

FAIL!!!!




" Just me and my pussys " - Congressman Weiner

NEW YORK | Mon Jun 6, 2011 4:49pm EDT
(Reuters) - Representative Anthony Weiner admitted on Monday to sending a lewd photo of himself to a 21-year-old female college student over his Twitter account after previously denying he had done so.

Weiner, a New York Democrat and a leading liberal voice in the House of Representatives who was expected to run for mayor of New York City in 2013, also admitted to inappropriate Internet and telephone conversations with about six women but said none of them developed into a physical relationship.

"I'm deeply regretting what I have done and I'm not resigning," Weiner told a news conference.

"The picture was of me and I sent it," he said.

(Reporting by Richard Chang; editing by Daniel Trotta and Will Dunham)





" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 11:51 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I invite everyone (except Rap) to compare lies and see which is worse:


Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction
Salon exclusive: Two former CIA officers say the president squelched top-secret intelligence, and a briefing by George Tenet, months before invading Iraq.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/06/bush_wmd/index
.html

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Monday, June 6, 2011 11:55 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


ROFLMBO!!!

Bush didn't lie vs Weiner knowingly lied.


TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE ISSUES!

You can't run away from this issue by trying to dredge up dated, tired old talking points on what EVERYONE IN THE WORLD knew to be the case, that Saddam hand and used WMD.

Now, for the matter at hand...

Weiner lied. He tried to implicate others who were simply reporting the story, claiming THEY had hacked his twitter account.

So, he lied, lied about the lie, and then try to blame others for HIS OWN ACTIONS !

Standard Dem M.O.

DEAL WITH IT !


There is no happy ending for you here. Those of you who supported Weiner, and swallowed his lies. Sorry folks, you took the shaft... ALL OF IT !




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 12:02 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!








" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 12:42 PM

FIVVER


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I invite everyone (except Rap) to compare lies and see which is worse:


Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction
Salon exclusive: Two former CIA officers say the president squelched top-secret intelligence, and a briefing by George Tenet, months before invading Iraq.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/06/bush_wmd/index
.html



1kiki you're sinking fast. You're only hope is NAZIS! Start shrieking NAZIS!

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Monday, June 6, 2011 12:47 PM

BYTEMITE


...There's an uproar about someone taking a picture of themselves with cats and making a joke about "pussy"?

Well, damn. Throw me in jail.

(OMG KITTIES) - sorry, irrepressible internal "cat-proximity" reaction. (THEY ARE SLEEPIES AND SOFT) - this is going to take a while, folks.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:09 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

...that Saddam hand and used WMD.



He hand them?

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Now, for the matter at hand...

Weiner lied. He tried to implicate others who were simply reporting the story, claiming THEY had hacked his twitter account.



You're lying.

Weiner never claimed that THEY hacked his account. He claimed that his account had been hacked. Others showed how easily this can be done. Given Breitbart's track record of shady dealings and shenanigans involving those he buys fake stories from, it was an easy connection to make, but Weiner himself never said what you're claiming he did. And you know that. So, by your own rules, you're lying.

Now apologize.


Hey, it's what you demand of others...


Quote:


So, he lied, lied about the lie, and then try to blame others for HIS OWN ACTIONS !

Standard Dem M.O.

DEAL WITH IT !



I had no idea John Ensign and Tom Coburn were Democrats now.

Quote:


There is no happy ending for you here. Those of you who supported Weiner, and swallowed his lies. Sorry folks, you took the shaft... ALL OF IT !



Meh... Nobody died over it. Not exactly a claim you can make about Bushie's lies, eh?



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:11 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by fivver:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I invite everyone (except Rap) to compare lies and see which is worse:


Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction
Salon exclusive: Two former CIA officers say the president squelched top-secret intelligence, and a briefing by George Tenet, months before invading Iraq.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/06/bush_wmd/index
.html





1kiki you're sinking fast. You're only hope is NAZIS! Start shrieking NAZIS!





Nah, we'll leave that to you tea-baggers. You're so very good at it! Nice work on using "you're" correctly 50% of the time, though.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:16 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

You're lying.

Weiner never claimed that THEY hacked his account. He claimed that his account had been hacked. Others showed how easily this can be done. Given Breitbart's track record of shady dealings and shenanigans involving those he buys fake stories from, it was an easy connection to make, but Weiner himself never said what you're claiming he did. And you know that. So, by your own rules, you're lying.

Now apologize.


You're delusional. Weiner lied, said his account was hacked. It wasn't, he knew it wasn't. He apologized to Breitbart.

You've just been thoroughly and completely owned.



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



C'mon folks, own it.

You backed this guy, and he was lying, all along.

This guy makes Casey Anthony look like a credible witness.

Please...y'all are embarrassing yourselves w/ your antics and logical contortions.

Congressman Weiner was exposed, and in being so, has exposed ALL of you who sided with him and his version of the story.

Face the mirror, folks. The liar is YOU!


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:38 PM

AURAPTOR

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You care.

Or you WOULD care, if it were a Republican.

There'd be 100 + replies by now, had some GOP member of Congress, after having so vehemently denied any wrong doing, after having accused MediaMatters or TheDailyKos of hacking his private account, and going through all the twists and theatrics, claiming innocence, a conspiracy, blah blah blah....


Hypocrisy ? This board is SOAKING in it!


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 1:50 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


You keep claiming that Weiner claimed that Breitbart hacked his account. You know this to be untrue. Produce your proof, or admit that you're lying.

YOU'RE LYING.

You're now exactly no different from Weiner. He lied. You lied.

Except he came clean and apologized.

Still waiting for you to do the same.

You won't, of course. Guess we know who's the bigger man between you two, eh?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, June 6, 2011 2:53 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Weiner apologized to Breitbart.

Man, you're really going to circle the drain on this one, no matter what, huh?

Crassic.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 2:53 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Sigh...so Weiner is a weiner after all. I was sad--and angry--to hear it. Pisses me off no end, but doesn't change my opinion one whit that this is not a news story, the media is being ridiculous about it, and anyone who pays attention is a weiner too. If someone is a good legislator, I don't give a flying fuck what they do in their own lives, as long as it doesn't break the law.

And you don't get to say I'm hiding behind anything because Weiner is a Dem. I feel precisely the same about Scott, and think it is just as stupid a story, and I'm amazed, and disgusted, that he quit over it. Many have survived FAR worse; to let a pecadillo like pictures sent over the internet cause one to RESIGN is assinine, in my opinion.

I'm especially pissed at Weiner, tho', because he was doing a good job of being someone who would stand up and call the Republicans out. So now he's gone and done something so stupid that he's made himself look like an ass. I resent that.

What IS it with these guys??? I asked that before and we had a discussion about guys and sex, etc. But this is a different animal, this stupidity of sending photos on Twitter accounts or over e-mail to women by married men in the public eye. Is social media such a new thing they haven't figured it out yet or something? Anything put on the net is never gone; how much brains does it take to realize there are tons of people out there just drooling over the idea of finding something on them? Idiots.

This has just become a non-story, as far as I'm concerned; politicians are assholes. Many male politicians are STUPID assholes who have used their penises to think with. Nothing new there.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Monday, June 6, 2011 2:58 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Niki.

I was right, you were wrong.

Say it.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:03 PM

BYTEMITE


I think she did, AURaptor.

In any case, I'm beyond caring about or being surprised by this stuff. I didn't care when it was Larry Craig, I don't care now.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Weiner apologized to Breitbart.




So I ask again - I challenge you, because you're lying and you know it - show your proof. WHEN AND WHERE did Weiner claim that Breitbart hacked his account? That's YOUR allegation. Prove it. Show evidence. Back it up.

Last chance - back it up, or admit to everyone here that you're a liar. (We already know, but just go ahead and make it official)

I'm right. You're wrong.

Say it.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:08 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


By the way, you know Bush apologized for the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib, right?

So in your world, that means he ordered the abuse.

Agreed?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:09 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
I think she did, AURaptor.

In any case, I'm beyond caring about or being surprised by this stuff. I didn't care when it was Larry Craig, I don't care now. Really it's all par for the course.



No, she didn't. She said he was a Weiner, that she was upset at believing him, but didn't say "AURaptor was right, I was wrong."

And once again, this goes to show the character of Dems and Republicans. The GOP dirt bags, they hight tail it and resign. Democrats ? Have no such honor.

None of them do.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:11 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



http://www.breitbart.tv/breitbart-on-weinergate-organized-left-sought-
to-destroy-messenger-give-credit-to-dana-bash-at-cnn-for-pursuing-story
/

Anthony Weiner accused Andrew Breitbart of hacking his account, and then apologize for making that false accusation.

You know it, I know it, the world knows it.

I win, you lose.





" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:11 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
I think she did, AURaptor.

In any case, I'm beyond caring about or being surprised by this stuff. I didn't care when it was Larry Craig, I don't care now. Really it's all par for the course.



No, she didn't. She said he was a Weiner, that she was upset at believing him, but didn't say "AURaptor was right, I was wrong."

And once again, this goes to show the character of Dems and Republicans. The GOP dirt bags, they hight tail it and resign. Democrats ? Have no such honor.

None of them do.




You have no honor, no honesty, and no integrity.

You lied about this, and you know you lied, and I've called you on it repeatedly now.

You still won't say "AuRaptor lied, Kwicko was right."


You're without honor. This shows the "character" inherent in the GOP. Every single one of them.

If you ever said "Support the Troops!", you are a socialist. You've taken money from me, by force and at gunpoint, and you've given it to people who are on a mission I don't support, and are murdering others in my name, and I am given no choice in the matter.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:14 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Anthony Weiner accused Andrew Breitbart of hacking his account, and then apologize for making that false accusation.

You know it, I know it, the world knows it.

I win, you lose.




He never said it. SHOW US THE EVIDENCE! You won't, because you can't. You refuse, because you're a coward.


SHOW US WHERE HE ACCUSED BREITBART OF HACKING HIS ACCOUNT.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:20 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
I think she did, AURaptor.

In any case, I'm beyond caring about or being surprised by this stuff. I didn't care when it was Larry Craig, I don't care now. Really it's all par for the course.



No, she didn't. She said he was a Weiner, that she was upset at believing him, but didn't say "AURaptor was right, I was wrong."

And once again, this goes to show the character of Dems and Republicans. The GOP dirt bags, they hight tail it and resign. Democrats ? Have no such honor.

None of them do.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Sure, but doesn't that imply that she agrees with you? I guess I don't see the reason to make it personal and rub faces in anything. But, whatever, it's an internet discussion board. Do as you all like.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:21 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Aaaaannnnnd

Crickets from Rappy.



Not a shred of evidence to prop up his baseless claims, as usual.

Known to all the world as a liar and a coward. That's our Rappy.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:29 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Weiner apologized.

game, set, match.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:44 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!




The strategy was to attack Breitbart, attack the messenger, and call into question the credibility and legitimacy of the story.

Breitbart was 100% truthful and is 100 % vindicated, as am I on this matter.


Kwickie, you've got something on your face. Ya might want to see to that.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, June 6, 2011 3:57 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I went back to the other thread about this story just to be sure I remembered it right, because I know what I believe and I know what I wrote. There were more rsponses than last time I was there, and some of this shit really pisses me off.

I never backed Weiner; I dissed those who were quick to judge him and said I thought it was a stupid non-story because I don’t CARE whether he did or not. I was willing to wait and see if anything came of it, but thought it was really stupid to make such a big deal of it. Ditto Lee. You can’t claim I “defended” Weiner, because I never did. So stop addressing that shit to me, or prove yourself. Go check the thread I put up expressing my disgust at how big a deal this all was. NOWHERE did I defend Weiner, nor would I have until there was something concrete either way. I couldn't even have gone back and changed anything, because I can't edit my posts lately. I have to contact Haken about that, but currently, I'm stuck with what I write.

Crap like this in the other thread and here makes me sick to my stomach, mostly because it so clearly illustrates that you don't READ WHAT IS WRITTEN, and then jump ahead to condemn the person you hate because of what you THOUGHT you read. Your attack on me for having “defended” Weiner is energetically , because I NEVER DID.

Onward: So if anyone’s “owned” and got shafted, what about you guys and Lee? It’s a stupid tit for tat; both sides got took and got a black eye. Deal with it.
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There'd be 100 + replies by now, had some GOP member of Congress, after having so vehemently denied any wrong doing, after having accused MediaMatters or TheDailyKos of hacking his private account, and going through all the twists and theatrics, claiming innocence, a conspiracy, blah blah blah....
Ahhh, you caught yourself there. Leaving off the “accused” bullshit (because HE did not), where are the “100 +” posts crowing over Lee like you’re doing over Weiner?? I don’t see any... Face it, little boy, neither side is better than the other when it comes to this, and you only think it’s a big deal and that people are suffering because that’s how you think, not because it has anything to do with reality. I could care less; it’s only important to YOU.
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He tried to implicate others who were simply reporting the story, claiming THEY had hacked his twitter account.
Wrong. He never said WHO might have hacked into his account, he only said his account MIGHT have been hacked and they were trying to find out who. He was pushed into apologizing to Breitbart for not having stood up and told the truth. You have to show proof that he accused Breitbart specifically for hacking, and he didn’t.
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“I want to hear the truth from Congressman Weiner and quite frankly I would like an apology for him being complicit in a blame-the-messenger strategy," Breitbart said.

"I'm being accused of being the hacker against a congressman. He said nothing. He allowed for that to go. His minions perpetuated that false, malicious meme and then he went on CNN to attack me."

In other words, the MEDIA speculated about Breitbart and Weiner allowed it to go on; you have to show proof that Weiner HIMSELF accused Breitbart, and I can’t find anything by Googling “Weiner accuses Breitbart”. So show us your proof or stop persisting in that lie. Even that URL you put up is headlined “Organized Left Sought to Destroy Messenger” – NOWHERE does it say Weiner himself accused Breitbart.

If anything Weiner did is “Standard Dem M.O.”, then what is Ensign’s whole scandal, or the “Appalachian trail” guy, or any of the others? Get a grip: It’s “standard politician M.O.”, on ALL sides, not just R or D.

Breitbart made an ass of HIMSELF, getting up there and preening in the spotlight to make it all about himself, a la The Donald. He said reporters ASKED him to, but that’s not been shown.

You got what Kiki said wrong: She said Bush knew Saddam HAD NO WMD; you wrote “Bush didn't lie”. What everyone in the world KNOWS is that Bush did lie, and Kiki was pointing out that Bush KNEW he was lying, he wasn’t just “misled”. If you bothered to check the link, it’s entitled “Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction; Two former CIA officers say the president squelched top-secret intelligence, and a briefing by George Tenet, months before invading Iraq”.
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Kwickie, Niki -

A total facial on y'all !

This likely will shake your faith and understanding of your entire world view.

Are you fucking KIDDING? My faith and understanding of my entire world view will be shaken by a politician doing something stupid revolving around sex...are you for real??
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This is the standard by which Lib Dems like Weiner operate, and should be an example for pretty much everything you THINK is real, or hold to as to who these people are and what YOU believe
I say again; if that’s the case, what about Lee and ALL the other idjits who’ve been involved in sex scandals on the right??? We’ve had an awful lot more colorful ones of late from your side of the aisle, so what does that make YOU, and is your entire faith and understanding of YOUR entire world view completely shaken now? Get a fucking GRIP!
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There was no defense for his actions.
Damned straight. Nor yours, but that’s another kettle of fish. Weiner is an asshole, just as so many politicians are, get it?

Jeez, how you can climb all over this and gloat and chortle like it was the end of the world, after Ensign—-who broke the law and whose entire scandal is AMAZING in its complexity and idiocy---or the guy with the Argentine mistress, who claimed to be hiking the Appalachian Trail on a day when it’s “hike the trail in the nude”, is pathetic.

We’ve got Edwards and Weiner
You’ve got Ensign and Christopher Lee
Deal with it.

You win? What do you win? The prize for showing how desperate you are and how important any little thing you can find against those you hate is to you? I’ll say it now, and you won’t be able to show that it’s in any way wrong: “Niki was right; Raptor was wrong”. Go check it out, I dare you. I can post quotes, if you like. See, your view is SO badly skewered that you even read things which don’t exist. Must be tough being you.
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And once again, this goes to show the character of Dems and Republicans. The GOP dirt bags, they hight tail it and resign. Democrats ? Have no such honor.

None of them do.

Dear GAWD, do we have to go through it again??? There were FAR more egregious scandals on the right in the recent past, and how many of THEM have resigned??? You are so incredible, I refuse to believe you’re for real. You HAVE to be doing this shit to get a rise and get attention, you just CAN’T be that blind and stupid, can you???

As for you and your desperation and lying:


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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:



Weiner apologized.

game, set, match.


The strategy was to attack Breitbart, attack the messenger, and call into question the credibility and legitimacy of the story.

Breitbart was 100% truthful and is 100 % vindicated, as am I on this matter.


Kwickie, you've got something on your face. Ya might want to see to that.






Bush apologized.

Game, set, match.

He not only ordered the torture at Abu Ghraib, he lied about it to cover it up. You've just admitted as much.

As Signy says "Goose sauce = gander sauce".




And I'll note yet again that you steadfastly REFUSE to produce ANY evidence that Weiner accused Breitbart of hacking his accounts. You're lying, you've been called on it, and you've been challenged to prove your case. Yet you persist in producing ZERO evidence, screaming "I'm right! I'M RIGHT!", and running away from the issue.

You won't provide evidence, because you have none at all.

Prove me wrong. Go ahead. We'll all wait.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Bush ordered no torture at Abu Ghraib. As commander in chief, he's sorry that abuses took place, and those responsible were identified and punished.

Weiner's actions were his and his alone.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Weiner was complicit in the disinformation coming from the Left wing bloggers. He knew the real story , all along, and did nothing to dissuade or correct the lies coming from KOS and other sites.

I'm sorry, Kwickie, that you're too stupid or too much of an useful idiot to comprehend the finer points, but truth is, they're actually pretty coarse, and not that fine at all.


Niki - nice try. You tried to wash your hands of Weiner by saying " it's a stupid story", when in fact, it was a legit story, and there's no way around that. Doesn't matter that YOU'D like to down play it, because he's a Dem, and one you were eager to praise. ( Which , even before this mess, is absolutely hysterical )

He not only lied, he brazenly did so, while taking part in the willful slandering of a reporter who was 100% on the right side of this story.

And you look towards this Weiner guy as some sort of LEADER ? Someone to be praised and held up?

Figures. John Edwards, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Patrick Kennedy, Gary Hart.... man, the list is never ending!

Looks like you've been by a Weiner





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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:35 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:


Weiner was complicit in the disinformation coming from the Left wing bloggers. He knew the real story , all along, and did nothing to dissuade or correct the lies coming from KOS and other sites.




So which was it? Was he "complicit", or did he actually ACCUSE Breitbart of hacking his account?

You're changing your story now, backing off your earlier claim.

Seems you owe somebody an apology. You lied, and you got caught. And you've admitted as much.

Apologize, now.

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Monday, June 6, 2011 4:56 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Kwickie

Hard to believe that even you're so stupid to think I'm going to fall for your idiocy here.

I'm right, you're wrong.

I backed a winner, you backed a Weiner.

Now suck on it.



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Monday, June 6, 2011 5:05 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

Weiner was complicit in the disinformation coming from the Left wing bloggers.
Prove it. Prove he didn’t lie to those who know him as well and, ideologues that they are, they suspected and condemned Breitbart...kinda like Palin’s followers have been changing Wikipedia about Paul Revere, y’know? It could just as easily be said that SHE put THEM up to it as to assume that Weiner conspired with lefties to blame Breitbart. Fact is simply that Weiner himself NEVER accused Breitbart, unless you can prove otherwise. Now it’s you who are twisting and spinning things.
Quote:

Niki - nice try. You tried to wash your hands of Weiner by saying " it's a stupid story", when in fact, it was a legit story, and there's no way around that. Doesn't matter that YOU'D like to down play it, because he's a Dem, and one you were eager to praise. ( Which , even before this mess, is absolutely hysterical )
Jezus, Raptor, you’re pitiful. No take-back that I never said I defended Weiner as you accused me of; of course, nobody expected otherwise. I didn’t try to wash my hands of Weiner any more than I defended him; I still believe this AND THE CHRISTOPHER LEE story are mountains made out of molehills by ideologues and the media. Lee’s a Republican, remember? Why would I want to downplay that, if you think I’m “downplaying” Weiner--which I’m not?

I think they’re both stupid, media-driven drivel which has nothing to do with the important things in our country we should be focusing on. When did I ever praise Weiner? He did one thing I know of: He stood up in Congress and faced the Republicans down. I know nothing about him besides that, but I admired that he did so on that particular issue, when nobody else would. I still do:
Quote:

Democratic Rep. Anthony Weiner was raging Thursday night on the House floor after it became clear that Republicans had enough votes to defeat a bill that provided health care to 9/11 first responders.

In a dramatic one-and-a-half minute speech, the New York congressman excoriated Republicans for mounting their opposition to the bill's passage on their inability to offer amendments to it.

"It's Republicans wrapping their arms around Republicans rather than doing the right thing on behalf of the heroes," Weiner said. "It is a shame. A shame! If you believe this is a bad idea to provide health care–then vote no! But don't give me the cowardly view that 'Oh if it was a different procedure'…"

I still agree with his stance on that issue, and it is the sum total of what know about Anthony Weiner, prior to this scandal.
Quote:

And you look towards this Weiner guy as some sort of LEADER ? Someone to be praised and held up?
When did I ever say I looked towards Weiner as a leader? Please show where I did, or stop lying about me. I accept that you don’t read what I actually write, but I won’t let your lies stand and it sickens me that you keep doing this. You’ve got me pissed, which you and yours haven’t done in a while; I need to work on that, too. You’re not worth it. But I won’t have you lying to or about me.

The last thing I’d ever look for from you is an apology, tho’ you definitely owe me more than one. It’s amusing, however, that you totally ignored my whole response and are avoiding the fact that there are as many peccadilloes on the right as the left, that it’s just politicians of every stripe who pull shit like this. You just can’t take it, can you? You can’t even defend yourself or your side, you just spit venom. Like I said: pitiful.


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Monday, June 6, 2011 5:13 PM

BYTEMITE


Wow. I guess people do care.

My mistake. :?

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Monday, June 6, 2011 5:24 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
I think she did, AURaptor.

In any case, I'm beyond caring about or being surprised by this stuff. I didn't care when it was Larry Craig, I don't care now. Really it's all par for the course.



No, she didn't. She said he was a Weiner, that she was upset at believing him, but didn't say "AURaptor was right, I was wrong."

And once again, this goes to show the character of Dems and Republicans. The GOP dirt bags, they hight tail it and resign. Democrats ? Have no such honor.


They shouuld fall on thier swords.....repubs do

None of them do.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "


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Monday, June 6, 2011 5:27 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Niki-

Prove Weiner DIDN'T lie ? Of course he lied. What are you on? That's THE REASON HE APOLOGIZED TO BREITBART, lady ! JEEZE! Specifically because he allowed the story that Breitbart was some how fabricating this story to carry on when he knew the truth, all along!

" When did I ever say I looked towards Weiner as a leader? Please show where I did, or stop lying about me. "

Quote:

I'm especially pissed at Weiner, tho', because he was doing a good job of being someone who would stand up and call the Republicans out.


There will be no apology, Niki. You start a thread on him, and then claim there's no story , no reason for anyone to be talking about this story.

There is.

You praise him for standing up to the GOP, then claim you never saw him as any sort of a leader. Even though he's a bald faced liar, you still think highly of him. With the Left, it's not so much the character of the individual, but what issue they're willing to demagogue. huh?


Oh, and Chris Lee ? He resigned. Where's the story there ? He, like Weiner, got caught for dabbling in areas they didn't want others to know about. Only the GOP ( per usual ) decided to bow out, while the Dem shamelessly carries on, knowing that he'll get re-elected, and before too long, he'll be right back at it. He'll just figure out how the hell to send those naughty pics this time.


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Monday, June 6, 2011 5:29 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


No, you're right, Byte. This is a stupid waste of time; I got drawn in because of the lies to and about me, but that's stupid too, as neither he nor his ilk will ever, EVER admit being wrong or apologize for anything.
Quote:

I guess I don't see the reason to make it personal and rub faces in anything.
But you know that's what they do, don't you. Kane, Raptor, Wulf; I sometimes wonder if it's all the same person, since all three of them predictably say and do pretty much the same things. Hate.

But thanx for bringing me up short; I've got far better things to do than keep wasting time responding to these jackasses. I need to remember that. The less I come here, the less I want to come here; the ugliness is sometimes overwhelming.


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Monday, June 6, 2011 5:30 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Kwickie

Hard to believe that even you're so stupid to think I'm going to fall for your idiocy here.

I'm right, you're wrong.

I backed a winner, you backed a Weiner.

Now suck on it.



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love
only that which they defend. "





Roflmao....well said...i,ve been busy and missed this story....but man...that is one hell of a post

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Monday, June 6, 2011 5:50 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


...except one last time I will respond.
Quote:

Prove Weiner DIDN'T lie ?
Cute. Deliberately misunderstanding me, that the new tactic? Dunno whether you're responding to the fact that I said prove Weiner accused Breitbart or prove that you didn't lie in saying I defended Weiner, but either way, nowhere did I say "prove Weiner didn't lie". You're doing it again, and I'm SURE at this point you're doing it to get a rise, which is why I'm going to go do something much more useful and pleasant than reading your crap. Which is just about anything...
Quote:

he allowed the story that Breitbart was some how fabricating this story to carry on when he knew the truth
In other words, as Mike said, you are now backtracking to say that Weiner ALLOWED the story to go on, not that Weiner himself blamed Breitbart. Good, at least we have that one behind us, despite the fact you won't SAY you were wrong in the first place. Gawd forbid and we never expected it.
Quote:

You start a thread on him, and then claim there's no story
Lying again. I started a thread to express my disgust that what I feel is a non-story was being made a big deal of by the media. I started a thread ABOUT a story, not about Weiner and his scandal. Anyone can go back and read the post that started the thread, rather than believe your lies.
Quote:

You praise him for standing up to the GOP, then claim you never saw him as any sort of a leader
How do the two combine??? I recently praised a politician for saying climate change was real; you think I look to HIM as a leader, too? You're playing games. NOWHERE did I say I thought highly of him; I said he did something I approved of and that I don't know SHIT about him otherwise.
Quote:

Even though he's a bald faced liar, you still think highly of him. With the Left, it's not so much the character of the individual, but what issue they're willing do demagogue. huh?
Okay, now I KNOW you're goading me. Obviously, after all I've written about scandals being on both sides, apparently "With the Right, it's not so much the character of the individual, but what issue they're willing do demagogue. huh?" I don't believe that, but hey, if it works for you...

Speaking of which, given how many Republicans (shall we list them?) have been caught with their pants down and not resigning, I guess
Quote:

while the Repub shamelessly carries on, knowing that he'll get re-elected, and before too long, he'll be right back at it.
Oh, let's play that game, shall we?

John Ensign , caught up in a scandal. He didn't resign.
David Vitter, caught up with a prostitute. He didn't resign.
The Larry Craig scanal; he made it at least through the end of his term.

I get it, I really do. You're here to push buttons. Have fun, mine are through being pushed for today; hopefully when I come back I'll be able to remember not to bother with you and your fellow lying, name-calling ilk.


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Monday, June 6, 2011 6:12 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

In other words, as Mike said, you are now backtracking to say that Weiner ALLOWED the story to go on, not that Weiner himself blamed Breitbart. Good, at least we have that one behind us, despite the fact you won't SAY you were wrong in the first place. Gawd forbid and we never expected it.


It's functionally the exact same thing. Let the underlings do your bidding for you, so you keep YOUR hands clean.

For the final time, WHY DID WEINER APOLOGIZE TO BREITBART ?

You KNOW why... stop acting stupid.

Quote:

Lying again. I started a thread to express my disgust that what I feel is a non-story was being made a big deal of by the media. I started a thread ABOUT a story, not about Weiner and his scandal. Anyone can go back and read the post that started the thread, rather than believe your lies.


Who started the thread? You did. Not a lie.

And lo and behold, turns out it was a pretty legit story, after all. Least, the world thinks so.

It's on par with stepping up on a soap box in the middle of a square and screaming to anyone who'll listen that you don't think that what you're yelling about should be paid attention to, by anyone, so everyone should just go about their business and not pay any mind to what ever the the hell it is you're screaming about...


How do you square flipping the story, when there's case after case of the Republican stepping down and resigning, even at the mere HINT of impropriety ? I know you think in your mind you're making some quid pro quo case here, but you're really not. Not even close.

I'm almost a bit embarrassed for you at this point.

Chris ( not Christopher ) Lee - resigned

Mark Foley - resigned. Never having had any affair, or even texting any lewd images / material.

SC Gov Mark Sanford steps down

And as for the Dems?

Barney Frank - A gay brothel being run out of his condo... no biggie.

Charles Rangel ? He's still around, isn't he ?

What of D.C. Mayor, Marion Barry ? He got re-elected, if I recall.

Gerry Studd? Sexual relationship w/ an underage male page. Voters sent him back for 6 more terms.

And the biggie, of course. Cigar Boy and the intern.



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Monday, June 6, 2011 6:37 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

In other words, as Mike said, you are now backtracking to say that Weiner ALLOWED the story to go on, not that Weiner himself blamed Breitbart. Good, at least we have that one behind us, despite the fact you won't SAY you were wrong in the first place. Gawd forbid and we never expected it.


It's functionally the exact same thing. Let the underlings do your bidding for you, so you keep YOUR hands clean.




THANK YOU for FINALLY admitting that you were lying. "Functionally the same thing"? Really? That's what you're reduced to now?

Wow.

So if someone here - ANYONE here - EVER comes to my defense on any matter, that "functionally" proves that I told them to do it?

Is that how stupid you really are, Rappy? Honestly?


Weiner lied about his activities. He never accused Breitbart.

You lied in accusing him of that. You're 100% as guilty as he is.

As I keep pointing out, he's man enough to stand up and admit it, and apologize. You obviously are no man at all. You've been caught lying, caught red-handed, and you've admitted you lied - hell, you're even proud of it, in your own fucked-up way - and you still think you're some kind of good guy.

That's a level of delusion I've never seen before. Seek help, and soon!

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Monday, June 6, 2011 11:58 PM

DREAMTROVE


the part that gets me is that this schmuck put his friends up to sticking up for him, and now they also look like dicks; and a lot of people swallowed it, now that the idiot has come clean, he can't seem to stop spewing this stuff, and they all look like they have egg in their faces.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 12:41 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


kwickie - maybe your pea sized brain can answer this question then.

Why did Weiner apologize to Breitbart ?


Hmmm ?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 12:41 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
the part that gets me is that this schmuck put his friends up to sticking up for him, and now they also look like dicks; and a lot of people swallowed it, now that the idiot has come clean, he can't seem to stop spewing this stuff, and they all look like they have egg in their faces.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.




DT - I see what you did there.

Clever.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 1:52 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Why did Weiner apologize to Breitbart ?



I've never claimed that Weiner DIDN'T apologize to Breitbart. Your mistake was in WHY you think he apologized, WHAT he apologized FOR.

If I know somebody who gets mugged and robbed, and I say in a moment of commiseration, "I'm sorry this happened to you," that isn't me apologizing to them and saying that *I* mugged them, is it?

Weiner apologized for the fact that Breitbart was blamed and attacked by others; given Breitbart's record of "reporting" on things in such a shady and fictional manner, it's an easy assumption for most to make. YOU accused Weiner of blaming Breitbart directly, something which never happened, and which I've pointed out to you repeatedly as something which never happened, and you continue in your persistent lie about it and still claim that that's what happened.



So see if your tiny little lizard brain can answer this question:

Do you still claim that Weiner himself claimed that Andrew Breitbart hacked his account? Yes or no. Stand by your earlier lie and show everyone here once and for all that you're a lying sack of shit, or man the hell up, admit you were lying, and apologize.

I'm willing to bet that you're not man enough to do the latter.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 2:01 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


" given Breitbart's record... "

Nice try . Breitbart, much the the scorn of the Left, has an impeccable record of reporting the facts. When he asked the the room of reporters there to give ONE example of something he's erroneously reported, not one of them cited anything. Because there IS nothing.

If Breitbart were half the hack that you claim, then there'd be no reason to even acknowledge him, at all. Yet Weiner singled him out, by name, for the apology.

The Left wants to paint Breitbart in a negative light, so as to discredit him. Weiner tried that route w/ this story, and it failed. ALL those who stood up for Weiner got the shaft, and it infuriates you that those who stand on the side of truth and the facts won this one.

The good guys won, and it burns you up.


Get use to it.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 2:04 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


You keep dodging this, so I'll keep reposting it:



Do you still claim that Weiner himself claimed that Andrew Breitbart hacked his account? Yes or no. Stand by your earlier lie and show everyone here once and for all that you're a lying sack of shit, or man the hell up, admit you were lying, and apologize.

I'm willing to bet that you're not man enough to do the latter.

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 8:42 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Weiner apologized directly to Breitbart.

You lose, I win.

Play this game as long as you'd like, the outcome won't change.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 12:40 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Weiner apologized directly to Breitbart.

You lose, I win.

Play this game as long as you'd like, the outcome won't change.




Still too much a coward to answer a direct question, I see.

You keep dodging this, so I'll keep reposting it:

Do you still claim that Weiner himself claimed that Andrew Breitbart hacked his account? Yes or no. Stand by your earlier lie and show everyone here once and for all that you're a lying sack of shit, or man the hell up, admit you were lying, and apologize.

I'm willing to bet that you're not man enough to do the latter.


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, June 7, 2011 12:58 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I know you're hurt and embarrassed over all this, but let it go. Show an ounce of dignity. If that's all you have, just let it go.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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