Real Life Moisture Farming by AnthonyT

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Real Life Moisture Farming

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Friday, December 9, 2011 12:06 PM

Freedom is Important because People are Important

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/08/world/americas/peru-fog-traps/index.html
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Hello,

Tattooine? Arrakis? No, just Peru.

I think this is a great idea. Although it only provides water for part of the year, it is an important step towards self-sufficiency for these arid communities.

--Anthony

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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Friday, December 9, 2011 1:57 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Every little bit helps.

Cheap, too - from what I understand.

-F

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Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:38 PM

CANTTAKESKY

Hey, I live in this foggy desert!

Water is a huge problem here. HUGE.

I live in an upper class neighborhood for this part of the country. It isn't that posh, but compared to others, it's considered upper class--where the doctors and lawyers live. Anyway, we only get water 6 hours a day, 3 in the early morning, and 3 in the afternoon. Every house has a water tank that fills up during this time, and what's in the tank is all we've got until the next time they pump the well.

I spent about 3 weeks living on farm, way outside of the cities. No running water. No sewage. No garbage service. The lucky ones there get well water from a hose for 2 hours every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. And it's expensive. They fill up every single water barrel they have for washing and cooking.

Everyone else has to wait for the water truck to come. They fill up community water barrels, and everyone shares. Or they might have running water, but in the summers, all they get is an infuriating trickle. So they have to leave the tap on to fill up buckets before they can even use the water. My nanny/housekeeper lives like that. She only recently got a water tank so she doesn't have to fill up buckets anymore.

So you can imagine how angry they get when foreign mines come to Peru and contaminate what little water they DO have. It is the source of a lot of protests.

Having said that, they do get a lot of water from streams coming down from the Andes toward the ocean. They just haven't engineered a way to harvest that water efficiently yet. A lot of good water wasted.

Oh, one more thing. I think there are only 2 water treatment plants in all of Peru. Yuck.

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Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth. -- Lucy Parsons (1853-1942, labor activist and anarcho-communist)

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Saturday, December 10, 2011 7:38 PM

FREMDFIRMA

Ayep, amazing what people take for granted sometimes...

Most americans simply assume that fresh food will be on the shelves, power will come out of the outlets, water from the tap, trash will get picked up - all without a single thought to the mechanisms by which this occurs.

This leads damn near inevitably to me wanting to cave in the skulls of other would-be anarchists when they fail to realize removing certain structures from society would disable those mechanisms and make that NOT HAPPEN - and when you try to point it out to them they just get this clueless, vapid, empty LOOK as their fekkin brain skips like a warped vinyl record and just kinda glosses over that part as if you never mentioned it at all.

And then I really, really want to hurt them.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, December 12, 2011 9:08 AM

CANTTAKESKY

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
And then I really, really want to hurt them.

Just send them to rural Peru.

I just talked to a farmer yesterday (a friend of mine) and asked about the fog traps. He says each trap yields about a bucket and a half a day during the winter and fall. You pretty much have to have one fog trap per plant. But yeah, they use it. It isn't much, but it's something.

This same farmer says he only gets to water his crops once a month. There are so many people in line for water, he has to wait his turn. They need to dig a deeper well to meet the water demands, but no one has the money for it.

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"Christmas is a time when kids tell Santa what they want and adults pay for it. Deficits are when adults tell the government what they want - and their kids pay for it." - Richard Lamm

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Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:45 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Water don't seem like much - till you ain't got any.

Back when I was all but homeless I knew where some unguarded taps were, which helped, but I'll never forget the day I broke into a garage just to use the freakin shower there...
The things people take for granted, yanno ?

-F

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