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‘The Road We’ve Traveled:’ A misleading account of Obama’s mother and her insurance dispute

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Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:52 AM

GEEZER

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Narrator Tom Hanks: “He knew from experience the cost of waiting [on health care reform].”

President Obama : “When my mom got cancer, she wasn’t a wealthy woman and it pretty much drained all her resources”

Michelle Obama: “She developed ovarian cancer, never really had good, consistent insurance. That’s a tough thing to deal with, watching your mother die of something that could have been prevented. I don’t think he wants to see anyone go through that.”

Hanks: “And he remembered the millions of families like of his who feel the pressure of rising costs and the fear of being denied or dropped from coverage.”

--series of statements with images of Obama and his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, in the Obama campaign film “The Road We’ve Traveled”

“The Road We’ve Traveled” is a very slick and impressively produced campaign film—sheer catnip for Obama fans. There are a number of facts and figures that could be challenged, but for now we are going to focus on this sequence. The series of words and images is an excellent example of how such films can create a misleading impression, while skirting as close as possible to the edge of falsehood.

The sequence, in fact, evokes a famous story that candidate Obama told during the 2008 campaign—that his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, fought with her insurer over whether her cancer was a pre-existing condition that disqualified her from coverage.

But the story was later called into question by Dunham’s biographer. The fact that Obama’s initial claim is not directly repeated suggests the filmmakers knew there was a problem with the campaign story, but they clearly wanted to keep some version of it in the film.




The Facts


During the 2008 campaign, Obama frequently suggested his mother had to fight with her health-insurance company for treatment of her cancer because it considered her disease to be a pre-existing condition. In one of the presidential debates with GOP rival John McCain, Obama said:

“For my mother to die of cancer at the age of 53 and have to spend the last months of her life in the hospital room arguing with insurance companies because they’re saying that this may be a pre-existing condition and they don’t have to pay her treatment, there’s something fundamentally wrong about that.”

But then earlier this year, journalist Janny Scott cast serious doubt on this version of events in her excellent biography, “A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s mother.” Scott reviewed letters from Dunham to the CIGNA insurance company, and revealed the dispute was over disability coverage, not health insurance coverage (see pages 335-339).

Disability coverage will help replace wages lost to an illness. (Dunham received a base pay of $82,500, plus a housing allowance and a car, to work in Indonesia for Development Alternatives Inc. of Bethesda, according to Scott.) But that is different than health insurance coverage denied because of a pre-existing condition, which was a major part of the president’s health care law.

Scott writes that Dunham, who died in 1995 of uterine and ovarian cancer, had health insurance that “covered most of the costs of her medical treatment…The hospital billed her insurance company directly, leaving Ann to pay only the deductible and any uncovered expenses, which, she said, came to several hundred dollars a month.”

Dunham had filed the disability claim to help pay for those additional expenses. The company denied the claim because her doctor had suspected uterine cancer during an office visit 2 ½ months before Dunham had started the job with Development Alternatives, though Dunham said the doctor had not discussed the possibility with cancer with her. Dunham requested a review from CIGNA, saying she was turning the case over to “my son and attorney Barack Obama.”

When Scott’s book was published, the White House did not dispute her account. “The president has told this story based on his recollection of events that took place more than 15 years ago,” a spokesman said.

Now let’s look at what the movie does with this story. It does not directly repeat the claim that Obama’s mother was denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition, fighting for treatment in her hospital room. But look at what it does say:

1. Hanks says the president knew the cost of waiting on reform. (Though disability coverage was not an issue in the health care debate.)

2. The president says cancer “drained all her resources.” (Health insurance paid for most of her bills, so this is not the case of someone being bankrupted by tens of thousands of dollars in bills. Her salary of $82,500 in 1995 was the equivalent of $123,000 today, but Scott says she had little savings.)

3. Michelle Obama says Dunham “never really had good, consistent insurance.” (It is unclear what she means by this, except maybe that Dunham had different jobs, some of which did not provide insurance. But Dunham had good health coverage when the cancer was discovered.)

4. The first lady also suggests the death “could have been prevented.” (Again, it was not an insurance issue. Before going overseas, Dunham was too busy with work and had skipped an important test recommended by her U.S. doctor, dilation and curettage, that might have spotted the cancer earlier. Then an Indonesian doctor diagnosed her problem as appendicitis and removed her appendix. By the time the cancer was finally discovered, it was third-stage.)

5. Hanks says that Obama’s family felt “the pressure of rising costs and the fear of being denied or dropped from coverage.” (Maybe for disability, but not health insurance.)

In the end, the impression left by the film, especially if you watch it (go to the 8:45 mark), is very similar to Obama’s 2008 campaign rhetoric: His mother was denied health-insurance coverage, draining her resources, and with better coverage she might have lived longer. The film suggests this experience helped inspire the president to keep fighting for the health care law, even in the face of advice from aides that he accept a less-than-satisfactory compromise.

Note that none of the quotes in the film actually use the words “health insurance” or “health insurance coverage.” Instead, the first lady says “insurance” and Hanks says “coverage,” which could just as easily mean disability insurance. But that would not be as evocative—or as motivating.

Asked for a response, the Obama campaign referred us to the previous White House statement on Scott’s book.




The Pinocchio Test


We use a “reasonable man” standard here, and we think there are few viewers of this film who would watch this sequence and conclude that Dunham was involved in anything but a fight over health-insurance coverage.

The disability-insurance dispute certainly may have motivated the president, but he has never explicitly stated that. In any case, the filmmakers must have known they had a problem with this story or else they would have recounted it as Obama had done in the 2008 campaign, using phrases such as “pre-existing conditions,” “health insurance,” and “treatment.”

Instead, they arranged the quotes and images to leave a misleading impression of what really happened.



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Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:08 AM

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Hanks is just a useful idiot, I bet if he did know the true story he'd still read the script as it was written. My guess is he didn't know the true story, he just wants to stay "A-List" in D.C. If someone did confront him with the truth he'd turn into a stamering idiot, and the reporter who asked the question would be turned into the bad guy.

Don't forget he was the one who produced "Game Change", the flick that was shown on HBO but got only 2.1 million viewers the night it was shown. 2.1 million is awful after all the free press it got.

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Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:31 AM

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Had she followed the suggestions of her doctor and gotten the requested test, instead of blowing it off and traipsing across the globe, not only might she have survived the cancer, she would have been granted the disability she later was denied.

But leave it to this President to use his family members as political props, unlike any other President before. Throw grandma under the bus ? No problem. Use his own children as human shields to insulate him from criticism ? In a heart beat.

This man is truly a miserable human being.

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Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:37 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"Dunham said the doctor had not discussed the possibility with cancer with her ..."

I can see how that could happen. Often doctors will recommend a test to 'rule out something more serious' without explicitly saying what that serious something or somethings might be. With that level of generic caution - usually posed as doing something to be on the safe side (defensive medicine), rather than as something vital - many people do elect to skip the extra tests.

BTW I can see how her health insurance is the initial cause of her lack of money. It's a well known fact that even people with 'good' insurance end up bankrupt due to uncovered expenses. They may not be as deeply in the hole as someone with poor insurance, or none, but no money is still no money.

Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy
Harvard researchers say 62% of all personal bankruptcies in the U.S. in 2007 were caused by health problems—and 78% of those filers had insurance

I don't know who Janny Scott is nor have I read the book. But she might have been better served to bring in experts to put both the medical story and the insurance economics together rather than wing it on her own, as it appears she does.

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Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:53 AM

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Hello,

I would like to add that even if she was covered, it does not mean she did not have arguments with her Insurance provider about her coverage. Coverage may not have been a foregone conclusion from her perspective.

--Anthony



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Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:06 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I guess what I find most irritating is the effort to make it look like Dunham couldn't have been bankrupt due to uncovered medical expenses b/b well, she had insurance! In fact, not only is medical bankruptcy while insured common, it falls into the category of 'vast majority' of medical bankruptcies.

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Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I guess what I find most irritating is the effort to make it look like Dunham couldn't have been bankrupt due to uncovered medical expenses b/b well, she had insurance! In fact, not only is medical bankruptcy while insured common, it falls into the category of 'vast majority' of medical bankruptcies.



Hello,

An Insurance plan that covered 90% of a 100,000 dollar medical bill would leave me with a debt of 10,000 dollars- something I do not have the capacity to write a check for.

An Insurance plan that covered 90% of a 100,000 dollar medical bill would be a rare gem of an insurance plan.

And it would still ruin me financially.

--Anthony


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Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:15 AM

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" Sometimes a thing gets broke, can't be fixed." - Kaylee, Out of Gas.


It seems that some are working under the false idea that, given enough " coverage " and medical care, that anyone and anything can just go on living, forever.


What may be true in some cases, even most cases, isn't always true in EVERY case.


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Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:47 AM

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Interesting how this is changing to a discussion about health insurance and completely ignoring the point of the story: that the comments from Pres. Obama, Mrs. Obama, and Mr. Hanks were at best incomplete, and at worst purposely misleading.

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Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Interesting how this is changing to a discussion about health insurance and completely ignoring the point of the story: that the comments from Pres. Obama, Mrs. Obama, and Mr. Hanks were at best incomplete, and at worst purposely misleading.



You're not suppose to pay attention to such things.

The man lost his mother ( 17 years ago ) for goodness sake! Have you NO compassion?

Make socialized medicine the law, NOW!

Or else you're an evil, hate filled racist !

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Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Indications are that Dunham was left to pay 'several hundred dollars' a month. Now, I'm always curious when someone can recount to the dollar how much a person made many years back in inflation adjusted dollars, but can't get a better figure for out of pocket expenses. Several hundred - could that be three hundred? or twenty hundred? We're left to guess. On purpose I have no doubt.

And while the arguments may have been about disability, the ORIGINAL shortfall was due to uncovered, out of pocket medical expenses. HHHMMMmmmmm - and maybe, just maybe, better medical coverage wouldn't have left her scrambling after disability. Ya think?

As for fragmented medical coverage, did you guys think that as a diagnostic test a D&C MIGHT NOT BE COVERED? Or that, if she was diagnosed with cancer within 6 months of hire (some group policies are 1 year) that her cancer WOULD have been considered a pre-existing condition and therefor not be covered?

If the issue is her medical coverage, where are the details about that coverage? The facts, in dollars and 'sense' that would provide form for these vague suppositions. But yanno, that's perhaps just a little too reality-based for you.

You little boys would rather get together sniggering over your mean, partisan and hate-filled little gossip-stories.

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