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When he saw Zimmerman he began the conversation by saying “hey man, what the f**k’s your problem, what the f**k you looking at”?
Zimmerman responded tennatively, somewhat fearful, somewhat like an “uh-oh” reaction, blew off the initial confrontation from Trayvon, and reached for his phone again to call the police.
Frustrated and feeling profiled for no-good-reason, (mindset “what you wanna call the cops on me for”?… this busy body Zimmerman is bringing grief for nothing. He should mind his own damn businesss.) In his mind, and in actuality, Trayvon was no threat to anyone. This dude calling the cops on him just pissed him off. Part anger mixed with a high dose of frustration.
It went downhill from there.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

I never maintained that Martin was an 'innocent', just that he didn't need to wind up dead because Zimmerman found nothing good to watch on TV that night.

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
Not conclusive, but it could point to extended use of lean.

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
Not conclusive, but it could point to extended use of lean.

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And so what? I don't get the significance... lean, bad day, general life frustration, break up with girlfriend, what's the difference?

Flow chart says the cause was Zimmerman.

Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured Operatives

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
I wasn't referring to the toxicology report. I was actually referring to the part of the autopsy report where they described the condition of Martin's liver. Not conclusive, but it could point to extended use of lean.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I think the speculation was that , due to excessive, prolonged drug use, Trayvon was edgier and more aggressive than he probably would have been otherwise. That aggression lead the the fight, which lead to Zimmerman using a gun ( justified or no ) in self defense.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
This "lean" is even a real thing? When I read it I had to confess skepticism that a black kid is being accused of distilling some sort of alcohol or drug from watermelons. It sounds like a bad joke about racial stereotypes, where the punchline is something about fried chicken.

EDIT: after looking this up on wikipedia, it appears there is a drink called lean, which does involve candy to change the colours, but it's based on cough syrup with painkillers. Not watermelon. I think the watermelon thing might call the veracity of the posted article into question.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
This "lean" is even a real thing? When I read it I had to confess skepticism that a black kid is being accused of distilling some sort of alcohol or drug from watermelons. It sounds like a bad joke about racial stereotypes, where the punchline is something about fried chicken.

EDIT: after looking this up on wikipedia, it appears there is a drink called lean, which does involve candy to change the colours, but it's based on cough syrup with painkillers. Not watermelon. I think the watermelon thing might call the veracity of the posted article into question.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
This "lean" is even a real thing? When I read it I had to confess skepticism that a black kid is being accused of distilling some sort of alcohol or drug from watermelons. It sounds like a bad joke about racial stereotypes, where the punchline is something about fried chicken.

EDIT: after looking this up on wikipedia, it appears there is a drink called lean, which does involve candy to change the colours, but it's based on cough syrup with painkillers. Not watermelon. I think the watermelon thing might call the veracity of the posted article into question.

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I confess to being ignorant of this 'lean' stuff as well. From the sounds of it, the ingredients, it seems to be in line w/ the ' purple drank' concoction, which is a favorite for some inner city youth, as well as professional athletes. ( See JaMarcus Russell )

With out any real evidence, what we have here is circumstantial, from what I can tell.

Sometimes skittles are just skittles.

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
heaven knows MY disciplinary record practically read serial-killer-in-training.

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And how many ethnic kills do you have, Frem?
OH. NONE. So, you fit the PROFILE, but PROFILING doesn't work then, eh?
Your point is well taken, dude. Except by the sensationalist media & TPTB.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I'm not familiar with all this codeine stuff.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yup. I like Skittles once in a while, and I occasionally drink Arizona Tea (not watermelon flavor though, because, well, GROSS!).

And I have a recent prescription for codeine cough syrup, and live in a neighborhood with a large black population.

And I can assure y'all I have no intention of, nor desire to, make any "lean" to try out. It sounds disgusting to me, and I've never in my life enjoyed the feeling of a codeine high.

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
I wasn't referring to the toxicology report. I was actually referring to the part of the autopsy report where they described the condition of Martin's liver. Not conclusive, but it could point to extended use of lean.

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And how many ethnic kills do you have, Frem?

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Codeine/ opioids and promethazine are part of routine tox screens. And the tox screen only showed very low levels of THC, nothing else.

So, is that the sum of our argument, Troll? Martin must have been using purple drank, even though the active ingredients magically didn’t show up in the tox screen?

NEXT!

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Y'know, I had a cousin who had diabetes, and she had syringes on her at all times. Musta been a heroin addict, too, right?

That is the logic at work here by Troll.

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Y'know, I had a cousin who had diabetes, and she had syringes on her at all times. Musta been a heroin addict, too, right?

That is the logic at work here by Troll.

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Martin's own words, you retard. Or do you think Zimmerman hacked Martin's social media accounts months in advance of the incident just to make the poor innocent boy look like a thug and a drug user?

You can lead an asshole to facts, but you can't make Kwicko think.

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But we have Martin's OWN WORDS that he was a user.

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It is whether or not the state can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

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You know that Trayvon's facebook page was hacked by white supremacists, right?

Or do you just conveniently overlook those kinds of facts, asshole?

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BTW, I just posted on my facebook page that I'm Batman.

Boom. I proved it, according to Troll, because it's posted on my facebook page, in my own words.

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You were profiled. Just because you LOOK like someone we know. This is how it always is.

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
Do you know how fast codeine clears from the system? Would it appear on the tox screen even 48 hours after the last use?

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You were profiled. Just because you LOOK like someone we know. This is how it always is.

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Do you know how fast codeine clears from the system? Would it appear on the tox screen even 48 hours after the last use?

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And promethazine? Here's the answer:

Promethazine has a half life of 12 to 15 hours. However, this is plasma half life. Promethazine is highly protein bound and distributed within tissues. Therefore, even when most of the drug is eliminated (<1%) there will still be subtle residual exchange between the tissues and plasma that can still be detected in a drug screen. (Months)

Dude - give it up. He didn't use the stuff.

As for HIS OWN WORDS --- if young men really had as much sex as they brag about, if (in my day) junior high students really smoked as much weed, if young people really got as wasted as they claim - you wouldn't recognize the world you're living in.

Do you mistake an online persona for reality, especially one of a young man trying to create a cool image? If so you are really clueless.

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Zimmerman was on the phone to 911. He hung up the phone. Then he followed Martin.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Did the tox report just do studies on blood and urine or was there a tissue report as well?"

OMFG. My FIRST degree, and job, was doing this kind of testing. You are so F*ing ignorant it's not even funny. Do you know what having a reservoir in the tissue means? It means that a little seeps out into the blood and urine, over a long, long time, And so, it is detectable at trace levels in blood and urine for a long, long time. It's the same mechanism that allows THC to be detected for a long, long time, except promethazine is stored in protein, while THC is stored in fat.

Go away, please, and stop wasting everyone’s time with your banal, ignorant and irrelevant bleating.

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
Kwicko, I thought you were Niki's flying monkey? Now it appears you are 1kiki's flying monkey. Are you running around on Niki?

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And Kiki, you haven't done anything to show that this will not cast suspicion on Martin's action. Lack of proof is not proof. You should know that. It's right there in the leftist strategy handbook.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I ship all of you together indiscriminately like nobody's business, so conversations like this delight my little black heart.

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