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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Cracked is a collection of internet jackasses, like Something Awful and 4Chan, only with pretensions of civility. Their political alignment is essentially "amoral."

They don't care who they're trolling or siding with, as long as they're trolling someone.

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Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:
Cracked is very leftist (read:left side of the bell curve).

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Q: Do you think Libertarians communicate the ideas of freedom and capitalism effectively? [Q&A following LP’s “Objective Communication,” Lecture 1, 1980]

AR: I don’t think plagiarists are effective. I’ve read nothing by a Libertarian (when I read them, in the early years) that wasn’t my ideas badly mishandled—i.e., had the teeth pulled out of them—with no credit given. I didn’t know whether I should be glad that no credit was given, or disgusted. I felt both. They are perhaps the worst political group today, because they can do the most harm to capitalism, by making it disreputable.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Yes, not wanting an oppressive govt taking what you've worked for amounts to being d- bag.

FAIL.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Yes, not wanting an oppressive govt taking what you've worked for amounts to being d- bag.

FAIL.

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Tell it to Saddam, right?

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Yes, not wanting an oppressive govt taking what you've worked for amounts to being d- bag.

FAIL.

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Tell it to Saddam, right?

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Yours is such an idiotic, nonsensical comment, it's not worthy of a reply.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yours is such an idiotic, nonsensical comment, it's not worthy of a reply.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
http://www.cracked.com/video_18426_ayn-rand-5Bplaceholder5D.html

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
I have always sensed a distinct difference between her ideals and the ideals of Libertarianism.

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
I have always sensed a distinct difference between her ideals and the ideals of Libertarianism.

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I think of her brand of libertarianism as an evil subset of the broader Libertarianism. Being free means being free to be douchebags. ;)

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Libertarianism could never be at fault, according to Libertarians.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I didn't reply to the comment, I just said it was idiotic. Which means, I didn't address its content, because it was too idiotic to do so.

Such children here...

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:

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Libertarianism could never be at fault, according to Libertarians.

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Hello,

None of the things you described are people behaving on Libertarian ideals.

Surely you are aware that thieves and liars exist everywhere, and they all make excuses for their actions?

--Anthony

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Libertarians plan decades ahead, working on different time scale than others. They are not greedy; they are building the future! Very John Galt of them.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
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Sounds like they objectivists/Randroids, based on the "these people wouldn't have jobs/there wouldn't be profits if it wasn't for me" idea. It's a type of libertarian, but it doesn't define all of them.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
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Sounds like they objectivists/Randroids, based on the "these people wouldn't have jobs/there wouldn't be profits if it wasn't for me" idea. It's a type of libertarian, but it doesn't define all of them.

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Obviously. For example, most Roman Catholics do not let the Catechism of the Catholic Church (ISBN 0-8091-3434-9) define their morality completely. But they're still "Catholics" even if they haven't read the book and never will.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:

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Libertarians plan decades ahead, working on different time scale than others. They are not greedy; they are building the future! Very John Galt of them.

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Hello,

I know of no Libertarian ideals that allow you to break agreements and steal people's money. Property Rights and Agreements are exceptionally important to the Libertarian philosophy.

What you describe are people breaking agreements and stealing money and trying to justify their decisions after they were caught.

It's a lot like saying Stalin upheld the ideals of Communism and Socialism. He did not. Even people who despise Socialism can't pretend that Stalin was a good representative of the philosophy.

--Anthony

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8. Government may not restrict trading and commerce between informed and consenting partners, but it may enforce rules to prevent dishonesty.

9. Individuals have a right to privacy, and government shall not impose upon that privacy by legislating the details of relationships between competent, consenting individuals. Nor shall government legislate any detail of private life that does not expressly and provably infringe on the rights and freedoms of other citizens.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
You responded with words - that is a reply, by definition.

REPLY: 1.
to make answer in words or writing; answer; respond: to reply to a question.

It's even the FIRST definition (I note this, since you have shown a tendency to pick and choose definitions)

It's cute how you stamp your feet, and deny doing what you obvilously did - and then call everyone else childish. You are a master at projection, bravo! Throw another tantrum, they're always fun to watch!

Like Kwick said, you'r doing it wrong, son. Not replying means... you know... not making a response - at all.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I didn't reply to the comment, I just said it was idiotic. Which means, I didn't address its content, because it was too idiotic to do so.

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First Stalin. Can Hitler be far behind?

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In the real world, not the abstract Lumanist world, the Libertarian doctor saw the profit-sharing as a voluntary gift to his employees.

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This was "commerce" and "private". See how that works?

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but it may enforce rules to prevent dishonesty.

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but it may enforce rules to prevent dishonesty.

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If there's an agreement that you are going to get something, and you don't get it, that's dishonesty.

--Anthony

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You say the people are poor representatives of their claimed philosophies. I say you're a defense lawyer talking BS to get your client off.

I go for the simplest case so you probably can't miss the point that the restauranteur was following your Lumanist Principles. He had no agreements, at all, with his illegal aliens. They bus tables for cash and go away every evening, maybe to be never seen again. So how can there be any dishonesty when the alien is paid every day? The judge did not see it that way. The social security tax wasn't being paid because the restauranteur knew his employees and what they expected -- the agreed behavior. That is why the scam went on for years until one of the legal employees accidentally got the same shabby treatment that was given to the illegals. The legal employee complained and then came the day of reckoning with the Feds.

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so you probably can't miss the point that the restauranteur was following your Lumanist Principles.

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Do you know how many Lumanists there are in the world?

--Anthony

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One? Counting yourself?

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Maybe I could just mark their foreheads with my special ink stamp carved from a rubber eraser with the letters "BS" so it's obvious what Libertarianism stands for?

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But that would violate your principle # 7: "Individuals have a right to speak and express their opinions freely without fear of . . . reprisal."

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No surprise he claims his budget is not Libertarian and never was.

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Originally posted by MINCINGBEAST:
Not a fan of Cracked, but spot on, even if it doesn't go far enough. The title ought to be "It is laudable to be an adolescent douche bag" or "Being an adolescent douche bag is actually a philosophy."

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Originally posted by MINCINGBEAST:
Not a fan of Cracked, but spot on, even if it doesn't go far enough. The title ought to be "It is laudable to be an adolescent douche bag" or "Being an adolescent douche bag is actually a philosophy."

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Then you clearly don't know what it means to be a Libertarian.

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Yes, not wanting an oppressive govt taking what you've worked for amounts to being d- bag.FAIL.

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Cracked is very leftist (read:left side of the bell curve). I like some of the articles... but damn, they've gone off the derp end.

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