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Total Media Blackout

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 6:54 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Today's example of a total media blackout is Fukushima.

Yanno, it's hard to believe, but as of June 13, 7.5 million Japanese signed a petition NOT to restart their nuclear plants.
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201206130046
This would be the equivalent of a 21 million-signature petition in the USA.

200,000 people surrounded the Prime Minister's residence last Friday. This would be like a half-million person demonstration in Washington DC. Since this is a regular Friday thing (since March 29) the police are now "kettling" protesters in the subways, and blocking access to any parts near the PM's residence.



People blocked the roads to the Oi Nuclear Power station (the one slated to come online) so that plant personnel had to be helicoptered in. And since Japanese men seem to be more accepting of the government line that everything is safe, Japanese women are packing their kids up and leaving their husbands in a move called the "Fukushima divorce".

None of this is in the mainstream media; in fact it's a little hard to find in ANY news source including Japanese and leftish news sources here in the USA. Even google searches tend not to yield much.

Imagine the pain of the Japanese people who are worried about their health, fearful of their children's future, and (now) totally distrustful of their government. Even with such massive action, they're ignored by their government and blacked out by the media. Coverage of Japanese events is miniscule compared to the attention paid to the so-called "Arab Spring". They must feel totally powerless and isolated.

I point (again) to the sloppy and indolent reporting on San Onofre (They knew for a fact EXACTLY why the tubes leaked hot radioactive water! But they were allowed to get away with pretending ignorance.) and the early coverage of the Japanese disaster, which SHOULD have been TRIPLE MELTDOWN IN ALL REACTORS- RUN FOR YOUR LIVES right from the start.

But I also point to the incredibly biased recent coverage of Libya, Syria, and Iran as evidence that most of what you need to know you will never hear, and most of what you hear is propaganda.

it used to be that TPTB would only wind up the propaganda when they needed to (to get everyone marching off to war with Panama, or Grenada, or Iraq). Now it seems like a 24-7-365 thing.

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 9:16 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


The media is not reporting on Fukushima anymore simply because it does not sell papers, or get people to tune in. That is the unfortunate part. The media is now for profit.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 10:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


MAC, don't you think the media would generate revenue if they published real and valuable information, like...

THE REACTORS HAVE BLOWN UP! DON'T GO NORTHWEST!

Right now, it seems to me "the news" is almost totally synthetic... take 30 parts of sports.... 10 parts of weather...30 parts pablum... 20 parts of shock-value and 10 parts feel-good ... mix well and shove through the mouths of one serious-looking babe, one serious-looking old dude, and one goofy weatherperson. Use advertizing as a lubricant.

Honestly, if the real news were actually reported, our government would collapse in a year and the corporations would follow shortly afterwards. The media is here to anesthetize us.


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Sunday, July 8, 2012 11:18 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yep.

I think government and media (both of whose interests are corporate) have stumbled on to something I have named (to myself) as 'synthetic reality'.

People tend to respond to what they encounter day after day. And they tend to discount their own lying eyes in favor of the socially endorsed. So if what they encounter day after day is the tv/ radio/ media that tells them that the world is fine/ happy/ positive, they will privately struggle mightily with their unemployment/ shit jobs/ bills while endorsing the idea that the world is fine/ it must be me/ no one else is doing anything.


It's what made the Katrina approach to news so successful, and successfully repeated, from Macando to Fukushima - reassuringly cover it for a while, then quietly move on even tho NOTHING CHANGED for the better. It's what made the "Arab Spring' depend on twitter rather than 'the news', otherwise, no one would know anything was happening. It's what will make failure to report the demonstrations in Japan successful, people will wander away b/c they will see no effect, eventually, no event.

If you control the media, you control people's reality; if you control people's reality, you control their behavior.



SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

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Sunday, July 8, 2012 5:28 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Honestly, if the real news were actually reported, our government would collapse in a year and the corporations would follow shortly afterwards. The media is here to anesthetize us.


That's why I am so rabid about keeping the Internet free - it really is the last bastion, and the only antidote available to the poisonous propaganda, even if the other side does occasionally use it, in a half-ass, ham-fisted fashion, to try and spread it.

None of us are as smart as ALL of us!

-Frem

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Monday, July 9, 2012 4:13 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Now it seems like a 24-7-365 thing.


Yep. Because if they're not dancing on the strings their whole lives, people might start to - gasphorror - think for themselves.

Quote:

It's what will make failure to report the demonstrations in Japan successful, people will wander away b/c they will see no effect, eventually, no event.

If you control the media, you control people's reality; if you control people's reality, you control their behavior.



Also this. There are a number of tactics that are basically obsolete in modern times because TPTB know about this. It's not just that the news is profit driven and people are no longer buying those stories (though in some cases that is part of it, if they even bothered to report in the first place), but that the news gets a LOT more profits if they play by the rules and don't bite the hands that feed them.

If you want to get something done, you can't rely on the public eye or voice anymore to impart your message. You can't play by the rules. So really, the only thing a protest is actually good for nowadays is to meet like-minded people.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 4:28 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

In answering Frem on another thread, I had to look up some information about Chernobyl.

Raise your hand if you knew that Chernobyl continued to operate until 2000, that it had a meltdown prior to the famous one we all know about, and that it had a fire after the meltdown we all know about?

From wikipedia:
Quote:



1982

In 1982, a partial core meltdown occurred in reactor No. 1 at the Chernobyl plant. The extent of the accident was not made public until years later, in 1985. The reactor was repaired and put back into operation within months.

1986

On Saturday, April 26, 1986, a disaster occurred at reactor No. 4, which has been widely regarded as the worst accident in the history of nuclear power. As a result, reactor No. 4 was completely destroyed and has since been enclosed in a concrete and lead sarcophagus to prevent further escape of radiation. Large areas of Europe were affected by the accident. The radiation cloud spread as far away as Norway, in Scandinavia.

The Chernobyl Nuclear Plant utilized one large, open turbine hall for all four reactors without any separating walls.[citation needed] Each reactor had two turbines. On October 11, 1991, a fire broke out in the turbine hall of Reactor 2.[6] The fire began in Reactor 2's Turbine 4[citation needed] (??-4 in Russian) while the turbine was being idled for repairs. A faulty switch caused a surge of current to the turbine, igniting insulating material on some electrical wiring.[7] This subsequently led to hydrogen, used as a turbine coolant, being leaked into the turbine hall "which apparently created the conditions for fire to start in the roof and for one of the trusses supporting the roof to collapse,". [8] The adjacent reactor hall and reactor were unaffected.

...

After the explosion at reactor four, the remaining three reactors at the power plant continued to operate. In 1991, reactor two suffered a major fire, and was subsequently decommissioned.[9] In November 1996, reactor one was shut down, followed by reactor three on December 15, 2000, making good on a promise by Ukrainian president Leonid Kuchma that the entire plant would be closed.[9]



--Anthony



Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Monday, July 9, 2012 4:41 AM

BYTEMITE


Interesting. I had no idea it was still in operation. My understanding was that there was a five day cleanup effort of 300 or so workers who basically got sick and died, and a 40 mile area around the plant was evacuated. It is unthinkable to me that they would allow workers back in while there was a 40 mile evacuation area.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 5:57 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yes to all of the above. For anyone else still reading....

99.9% of everything on FOX is dreck, 95% on regular broadcast news, 85% on publicly-owned. It takes a BIG shit-strainer to filter-feed through the crap. The problem isn't just the overt lies (for which FOX is immensely famous) or the constant spin/ advertizing; it's the complete mis-focus... zooming in on crap that doesn't matter, while the stuff they DON'T tell you about is really pernicious.

Let me give you another example, along with the examples contributed already.

Why does the news media... including public TV and radio... breathlessly recount the ups and downs of the STOCK MARKET every day?? The stock market is just a form of crooked gambling; it has as much to do with the everyday economy of real people as hog's ears relate to high school diplomas.

In the meantime, who was reporting on the impending worldwide bubble back in 2007-2008? Who was looking into the toxic mortgages, wealth spread, and debt load that was characterizing the money distribution? It would have taken a real astute person (there were a few) to point out that a bubble of unsustainable proportions was being created, and an even MORE astute person (AND THERE WAS ONE) to realize and report BEFORE this became an issue that the mechanism controlling the flow and distribution of the EURO was totally in the hands of the banks, and outside of democratic procedures.

So what REALLY matters is often not mentioned at all.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 7:01 AM

BYTEMITE


Reality and actual understanding of the foundations of the world and how the various systems we depend on work cuts into warm fuzzy feel-good time... Or maybe into the stuff they want us to be afraid of that isn't really a threat. Maybe the reason they have to keep pushing some threats is because if they didn't we'd realize they were laughable and lose interest even more quickly than we do in the real threats.

They need the fear to be constant, and useful, but only towards the things that don't question the benchmarks of society.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 7:04 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I belong to an email group whose sole purpose is to mutually inform each other about these things.

But even when one gets privately informed, I admit I look around at the results of the vast MASS media on the larger world around me, and I wilt. How does knowledge even gain a whisper in that place? And even then, I think, it's not even about information. As we've seen, there are many people for whom information is fertilizer for their ever-increasing delusions.

And I think btw it's not just the 'news'. It's the wall of tv shows, radio shows, newspapers and ads - all massaging us into a cocooned anesthetized state of unreality.


SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 8:11 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yup to all of what's been written, too. Sig:
Quote:

Right now, it seems to me "the news" is almost totally synthetic... take 30 parts of sports.... 10 parts of weather...30 parts pablum... 20 parts of shock-value and 10 parts feel-good ... mix well and shove through the mouths of one serious-looking babe, one serious-looking old dude, and one goofy weatherperson. Use advertizing as a lubricant.

Honestly, if the real news were actually reported, our government would collapse in a year and the corporations would follow shortly afterwards. The media is here to anesthetize us.

You forgot the percentage of "celebrity gossip", and I don't think the "feel-good" accounts for as much as 10%, personally. ;o) Byte's right, too:
Quote:

They need the fear to be constant, and useful, but only towards the things that don't question the benchmarks of society
Absolutely.

None of this surprises anyone here, but nobody has an answer as to how to change it. I rely mostly on the internet, and check several stories to see if what I've found is worth paying attention to...and even then, it's a conundrum. I don't trust the MSM, but I equally don't trust blogs by people who might have an agenda, or who have swallowed the cool aid because it fits with what they already believe. Makes it tough, if not impossible, to sort out what's real. I DO know that over time I've learned more about what's really going on (especially in America) from friends in other countries...for what that's worth.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 8:29 AM

BYTEMITE


I subscribe to the theory that all of these people in power who are so desperate to control everything the public believes and everything the public acts on will eventually lead to their own downfall through simple economics and cause and effect.

Look at Rupert Murdoch. When you become so invested in twisting the news and creating your own worldview/reality, you start stealing information or hacking into private software or systems to find anything to uphold it. Eventually, no matter how powerful you are, you step on the toes of another elite, you piss off the wrong person just a little too much because you're pushing too hard and getting too greedy. Because TPTB aren't necessarily a united group, they're fractions, competitive, sometimes working for the same goal, sometimes at cross purposes, with some very questionable agendas distributed among them.

But apart from the long term view, all of the solutions that could result in more immediate change most people would probably find distasteful, or even immoral.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 8:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The problem Niki is that you are still looking at the media, when in reality the truly important information seldom makes it that far. I sometimes get the most insight from what is NOT in the news. Of course, that requires an almost PN-ish view of the world (and even conspiracy theorists tend to get misled). I'm not smart enough to notice even "most" of the missing items, I'm lucky if I can capture 0.1% of what's hidden from view. What it takes is a person who has such a thorough understanding of the fundamentals of some topic that the ghafla can't distract.

To be quite honest, most of what is posted here is fluff. Gas prices, stock market, what Obama said, what Romney said, democrats, republicans... the reality is that the military will still get its cut, the banks will still be in the business of making real money on funny-money, climate shift will proceed unchecked, the population will still expand, Fukushima will continue to spew radionculides that will take centuries to eons to decay (and all of northern Japan will be uninhabitable by any reasonable standard), the 0.1% will still be in control, and we will still be talking about shit that doesn't matter.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 9:23 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Well, you've outlined some of the big things, I think. Maybe we just need to keep them in mind as we watch the news, to sieve out the pointless tap-dancing.



SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

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Monday, July 9, 2012 9:59 AM

FREMDFIRMA



I felt this was ever so appropriate to the discussion.



Only, yanno, Norsefire was a lot better at it.
*eyeroll*

-F

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Monday, July 9, 2012 12:02 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
That's why I am so rabid about keeping the Internet free - it really is the last bastion, and the only antidote available to the poisonous propaganda,

I have a friend who worked in broadcasting for a while. She wanted to do stories on the genocide in Rwanda at the time. Her boss killed the story in favor of a story about how a piece of toast looked like the virgin Mary. Disgusted, she left the field.

Kind of how all the good cops don't stay either.



-----
So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
is all the sad world needs.
- Ella Wheeler Wilcox, poet (1850-1919)

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