Some one s'plain this one to me. If ya can. by AURaptor

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Some one s'plain this one to me. If ya can.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:59 PM

America loves a winner!

Emanuel welcomes Farrakhan help in crime fight
July 26, 2012
NEW YORK (JTA) -- Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel welcomed the help of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan to help stop the violence in Chicago neighborhoods.

Farrakhan has a history of making anti-Semitic statements. In welcoming Farrakhan's help, Emanuel said Wednesday that he was more concerned with reducing a 40 percent surge in Chicago homicides.

“People of faith have a role to play and community leaders have a role to play in helping to protect our neighborhoods and our citizens," said Emanuel, the first elected Jewish mayor of the city. “You cannot get there on just one piece of an anti-crime strategy.”

For the past two Mondays, Farrakhan has dispatched hundreds of "Fruit of Islam" members on patrols in city neighborhoods in the city. Farrakhan ordered the show of force in response to last month’s murder of 7-year old Heaven Sutton, the Chicago Sun Times reported.

Chicago Alderman Debra Silverstein, an Orthodox Jew, said it’s good that Farrakhan is “helping” in the fight against crime, “but it doesn’t eradicate the comments that he’s made about the Jewish community,” according to the Chicago Sun-Times.

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2012/07/26/3101866/emanuel-welcomes-fa
rrakhan-help-in-crime-fight

Is this really the same guy ? The same Louis Farrakhan who said the following, not that long ago ?

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Wednesday, August 1, 2012 3:25 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

How does Rahm say he wants to stand in the way of Chick-Fil-A, and then the very next day, sidles up w/ this monster ?

Is it because he wants to help fight crime ?

And that makes it ok ?

CFA only wants to sell chicken sammiches. As it's done for 4 + decades. Why this fight, now, but only with CFA ?

" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, August 2, 2012 4:26 AM

CAVETROLL

The best thing to come out of 9-11 was Farrakhan shutting his mouth for 10 years.

Kwindbago, hot air and angry electrons

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Thursday, August 2, 2012 7:02 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I do agree with Troll on that one, I detest the man. But then, I'm no fan of Emanuel, either.

However, calling on someone who might be listened to by a particular audience and who has people who will patrol the area doesn't mean he's approving of what Farrakhan in other areas, you just found this one to put up another anti-whatever-on-the-left post, and we all know it.

I don't like him calling on Farrakhan, but I don't consider it something to condemn him with, nor do I consider it an important issue. Now, go on a rant about how I'm horrible for...whatever...and how it's important, oh, and throw in a few irrelvant facts while you're at it. Have fun.

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Thursday, August 2, 2012 7:09 AM

JONGSSTRAW

The time seems right for the long-awaited cultural backlash that this country so desperately needs. The fringe minority, the staunch and ever-creative proponents and propagandists of secular humanism, Marxism, and anti-Americanism on the psycho-left are falling apart right in front of an upcoming election they fear losing like none before.

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Thursday, August 2, 2012 11:34 AM

FREMDFIRMA

As opposed to the absolutely-batshit-crazy Right ?

A sickening pack of neo-feudo-fascists who have flat out admitted intent to dehumanize women and strip them of their personhood, a policy which will then obviously be enacted against minorities ?
Who mean to destroy education cause anyone but a total fucking dunce would not support them ?

Who, mind you, once you strip away the astroturfing and sock puppetry, constitute a percentage so tiny you couldn't even call it a minority, who have a voice only due to their financial brethren riding on the back of neo-modern feudalism ?

A tiny speck of lunacy granted far too much power, whos bent towards a Final Solution to anyone who dares oppose them is at this point an open secret ?

Falling apart my ass!
See, the argument within your opposition isn't over whether you'll "win" or "lose" a rigged game which is meaningless anyway because the Gov is not legally bound to even accept the outcome.
(See also; Victor L Berger, Unseated Members of Congress, Electoral College)

No, the argument is between those blasted idiots who will be content with temporarily evicting your pet lunatics from power, whereupon one AGAIN the damn kind fools will forgive and forget and we'll go through this dance again, like a decaying orbit, never quite taking back the freedoms and rights pissed away in this charade...

And between people like me, who want your pet lunatics, their financial backers, and the useless morons who cheerlead and support them despite the fact that the only "reward" for it will be first class tickets to the camps cause you're too fuckin stupid and gullible to leave laying around to be manipulated against them... DEAD.

Yeah, you heard me.

Mind you I'd settle for run out of the country on a rail and exiled to a nation where your brand of hateful intolerant bullshit is more tolerated, other than that whole muslim-christian difference, I figure y'all would get on really well with the goddamn Taliban, since you're just like them once the bullshit is rubbed off, so lets drop the facade, okay ?
You want your theological, neo-feudo-fascist fourth reich...
And I want your fucking heads on stakes.

And that's just how it is.
You should be HAPPY you're facing the kinder, gentler (stupider!) opposition that you are, for the alternative, should push come to shove, is people like ME running the opposition, and you don't want that, beleieve me, you DO NOT WANT that, ever.
You wanna talk cultural backlash... you have NO IDEA...

-Frem

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Thursday, August 2, 2012 12:35 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

While I don't necessarily agree with the rest, there is no denying "As opposed to the absolutely-batshit-crazy Right ?" The world is laughing at us for the insanity of our conservatives this election...I would be laughing with them except that I find it so incredibly pitiable and destructive to our democracy. So I'll just let the world laugh for me.

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Thursday, August 2, 2012 5:26 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

JONGSIE, could you possibly sound any more bitter?

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The fringe minority, the staunch and ever-creative proponents and propagandists of secular humanism, Marxism, and anti-Americanism...

So, starting with "secular"... What's wrong with "secular"? I looked it up, It means "worldly" or "temporal"; is the state of being separate from religion, or not being exclusively allied to any particular religion.

Huh. People who want a nation that is separate from religion. Maybe they would agree with the Founding Fathers? Isn't that what the FF wanted- a secular government? Go look it up; I'm pretty sure that was the idea. Even rappy would agree with the idea of secular.

"Humanist" Again, I looked it up. [Secular] humanism embraces human reason, ethics, social justice, philosophical naturalism, while specifically rejecting religious dogma, supernaturalism, pseudoscience or superstition as the basis of morality and decision-making.

So, basically we should take responsibility for our moral choices and not make them because of superstition etc. Again, what's wrong with that?

"Marxism". Marxism is an economic and sociopolitical worldview and method of socioeconomic inquiry centered upon a materialist interpretation of history, a dialectical view of social change, and an analysis–critique of the development of capitalism.

I doubt there is anyone here who actually knows what Marxism is.... even you, JONGSIE .... let alone practices it. So: who???

"Anti-Americanism"

Oh, you mean like.. pitting American workers against Chinese prison labor? Everyone seems to have a different idea what that is, maybe you should explain that to us if you can. If you can't, I'll have to assume that your entire post is entirely, well.... meaningless. Or maybe you should tell us what's REALLY bothering you, without resorting to phrases that don't seem to really reflect your concerns.

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are falling apart right in front of an upcoming election they fear losing like none before.

Is this a case of projection? I have long stopped dreading a Romney win; in fact, I would rather welcome it. The way I see it, austerity has already dragged the EU back into recession. If Romney wins and does what he wants to do, it will push us ALL (worldwide) into a depression. It would be a bitter but useful lesson to our right wing... and everyone else... to have that "trickle down" medicine forced down our collective throats, and find that it STILL doesn't work. Bring it, yanno?

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Thursday, August 2, 2012 5:37 PM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The time seems right for the long-awaited cultural backlash that this country so desperately needs. The fringe minority, the staunch and ever-creative proponents and propagandists of secular humanism, Marxism, and anti-Americanism on the psycho-left are falling apart right in front of an upcoming election they fear losing like none before.

Now that is some choice, grade-A projection there, folks.

Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, August 3, 2012 1:14 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The time seems right for the long-awaited cultural backlash that this country so desperately needs. The fringe minority, the staunch and ever-creative proponents and propagandists of secular humanism, Marxism, and anti-Americanism on the psycho-left are falling apart right in front of an upcoming election they fear losing like none before.

You nailed it. From the TEA party victory of Ted Cruz in Texas, to the rejection of the massive, shovel ready, stimulus like T-SPLOST bill here in GA, there's a strong undercurrent out there that Americans have finally come to grips that the big govt, one size fits all, 'comprehensive' approach to solving all our problems isn't the right way.

" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, August 3, 2012 1:17 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

I was amused that Jongsie used "creative" as a disparagement.

I guess that's his form of capitulation, of admitting that conservatives have no ideas and no ability to think of any. Their quest to quash critical thinking has been fully realized, at least within their own party. They now have no ability to reason or to analyze, and just swallow vulturelike the predigested goop that FauxNews vomits down their throats.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"The groin cup and throat protector have about as much ballistic protection as the kneepads I wear when I'm doing a job that requires me to be on my knees." - Troll

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Friday, August 3, 2012 2:34 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Back on topic here for a moment, just a few thoughts...

Farrakhan wasn't born and raised in Chicago, so why is Rahm calling upon him to help solve the city's problems?

What great track record does Louis Farrakhan have, in ironing out differences or calming public discord does he bring to the table ? Where on his long resume' does it indicate the he has ANY qualifications or insight on solving the crime in Chicago ?

Isn't that something the MAYOR and the people of CHICAGO should work on, themselves ?

And what of the PRESIDENT ? Former community agitat..., I mean 'organizer' himself, is he too busy to be bothered w/ the problems of a city in which his private residence is located to drop in and offer some support ?

It's not like those 100+ rounds of golf are going to play themselves, so that may be the reason.

" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, August 3, 2012 6:35 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Yes, the NERVE of Obama to ignore the problem of crime in Chicago! Why... why... it's almost like Bush and New Orleans!

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