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Romney: "No-one's ever asked to see my birth certificate"
Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:48 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Saturday, August 25, 2012 3:24 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:48 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Saturday, August 25, 2012 6:21 AM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Saturday, August 25, 2012 9:11 AM
Saturday, August 25, 2012 9:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: No surprise there. They're about all he has LEFT, so the important thing is to keep reminding them Obam is "The Different" so they'll get out and VOTE. If they can manage to suppress the votes of enough of those damned brown- and black-skinned folk, and the young folk, and the gays, etc., that audience will win it for him! If he can just keep reminding them... CALL IN THE DONALD!
Saturday, August 25, 2012 12:31 PM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Meanwhile, a new poll from that lefty-lib rag the Wall Street Journal found that Romney's support among black voters had reached ZERO PERCENT. That's right - of 1000 people polled, not one African-American voter supported Romney. That may be some kind of record. Of course, Romney's an optimist, so he looks at this as good news, since he's got nowhere to go but up!
Saturday, August 25, 2012 3:42 PM
Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:15 AM
Sunday, August 26, 2012 5:46 AM
Sunday, August 26, 2012 8:19 AM
Quote:"No one's ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know that this is the place that I was born and raised." With that comment to a crowd in Michigan, Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney officially embraced the "birther" movement and touched off a firestorm of protest across the airwaves and internet. Of course, those protesting didn't include his live audience or the extremists on the right. Nor, given Romney's embrace of Donald Trump, should we be surprised by this joke-that's-not-a-joke. Ari Melber of The Nation put it succinctly: "Jokes can be more revealing than talking points." But what, exactly, did Romney reveal with this pre-meditated "offhand" remark? That he's courting the radical right? He already chose Paul Ryan as his vice-presidential nominee. That he's pandering to the right-wing noise machine and the corporate special interest propaganda machine? We already know that because he appears on media friendly to the right but limits the number and kind of questions reporters can ask him, and then responds with dodging answers. That he's following the Bush-Cheney-Rove "keep it vague, keep them afraid" playbook? Commentators and analysts have been pointing this out since Romney entered the campaign. Romney -- hiding behind the plausible deniability that it was just a joke, with a wink and a nod to the extremists in his base -- tried to divert attention from the ABC's haunting his campaign: Akin, Bain, "Corporations are people." His comment has the added benefit of satisfying his most fervent supporters and those anonymous supporters bankrolling one of the most misleading advertising campaigns, a blitzkrieg that strikes just the right partisan undertones. The real story is that there's nothing unusual about the remark. It's no more in the gutter than a lot of things that have been said about President Barack Obama since coming into office. It's just one more insinuation designed to distract us from the most disconcerting weaknesses of Romney's candidacy -- that he fails to offer details about his policy proposals and stubbornly refuses to disclose more than two years of tax returns. But it is sad and revealing, nevertheless. It is sad that a campaign stretch that began with his asking Obama to stop apologizing for America (something fact checkers noted the president never did) and roundly debunked welfare attack ad ended with a xenophobic and roundly debunked birther reference. And it reveals not just moral turpitude, but moral vacuity. His birth certificate dog-whistles are not just desperate, they are deliberate. Romney is campaigning as if he feels he is entitled to the White House -- that, like a feudal lord or European aristocrat, he does not have to answer questions, he does not have to be forthright, he does not have to be honest. It also reveals, as so much before it has done, that he believes the American people are too ignorant, too indifferent, too lazy, too afraid to bother and that we can be fooled. He also knows that the American press will, after huffing and puffing, give him a free pass on this one, too. How we respond to Romney's remark will reveal a lot about us, as well. Will we get what he's doing? Will we reject the noxious condescension and the patronizing? Will we demand an open and honest accounting of his business dealings? If he wants to be in charge of our business, we should see how he's run his. The media, too, will reveal a lot about itself by its response. Outrage, shock, tongue-clicking - these are superficial and useless. Allowing Romney to backpedal -- "it's only a joke" -- misses the point. The media needs to press for policy specifics and contrast claims with facts. As I said, we shouldn't be surprised by Romney's remark. Trying to pretend that somehow Obama is not an American-born leader, or questioning his patrioism, or his values by using the Big Lie often speaks in code. Romney's birther remark was less a surprise than a confirmation that his moral compass is off center. Mr. Romney, America's not an aristocracy. http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/25/opinion/brazile-romney-birther-line/index.html?hpt=hp_bn7
Quote:Donald Trump will play a "surprise" role when the Republican Party kicks off its national convention next week in Tampa, Florida, a party official said on Monday. The real estate mogul and reality-television star is scheduled to participate in a to-be-revealed fashion on the first day of the four-day convention, where Republicans are to formally nominate former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney to face Democratic President Barack Obama in the Nov. 6 election. "I am doing something that is going to be, I think, really amazing; it'll be great," Trump said last week on the Fox Business Network. "We'll see what happens. We'll see how it's received." Trump is not listed as one of the official speakers on Aug. 27, the first day of the convention, but he will participate, a Republican official confirmed. "There will be a surprise," the official said.
Quote:Donald Trump is keeping his Republican National Convention role a secret for now, but on Wednesday he hinted that whatever it is — it’s going to be “pretty wild.” “They’ve asked me to speak,” Trump told Imus. “I may do it, but I don’t think you can do both. And you’ll understand when you see what I’m doing. So, it will be one or the other.” Earlier this month an aide to Trump said he would play a “major role” at the convention where delegates will officially nominate Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan to the GOP presidential ticket.
Quote:Human candy corn Donald Trump, a well-known Political Expert and Successful Reality-Television Business Actor, has a "big surprise" planned for the Republican National Convention. What could be the surprise? Maybe he will reveal that he is actually a pile of quivering, sentient eels projecting the form of "Donald Trump" onto an unwitting populace. Or maybe, Loser Salon's Alex Pareene writes, the surprise will be "some idiotic video where Trump 'fires' an Obama impersonator." And, lo:Quote:Last night, Obama impersonator (or "Fauxbama," if you prefer) Kevin Michel posted a picture posing with Trump, along with a caption urging his Facebook friends to "(b)e sure to watch the Republican National Convention."Yeah, it's gonna be a stupid video where he "fires" an Obama impersonator.
Quote:Last night, Obama impersonator (or "Fauxbama," if you prefer) Kevin Michel posted a picture posing with Trump, along with a caption urging his Facebook friends to "(b)e sure to watch the Republican National Convention."
Sunday, August 26, 2012 2:15 PM
Monday, August 27, 2012 10:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: And it WAS zero percent--of course, any sampling can miss and/or be off, but that was surprising to me.
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:33 AM
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:56 AM
M52NICKERSON
DALEK!
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: And it WAS zero percent--of course, any sampling can miss and/or be off, but that was surprising to me. Your citing polls that sample +9 Democrat. Here in Ohio we're officially tied, 45-45, and he has about 10% of the black vote. So unless Ohio has his ONLY black voters I think your poll, like most polls these days, are wishful thinking for Democrats.
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:00 AM
Quote:Only 2% Say They Will Support the Romney/Ryan Ticket In the most comprehensive election-year study of registered African-American voters in the battleground states, BET News' original poll conducted by nationally-recognized pollster Cornell Belcher, reveals overwhelming support for President Barack Obama for a second term re-election and severe disapproval of Republican Presidential nominee Governor Mitt Romney (R-Massachusetts). The study is the deepest exploration to date of the views of black voters in the states on which the 2012 Election will probably turn. Gov. Mitt Romney is currently positioned to garner an historic low rate of support among African-American voters. Only two percent of African-American voters in our poll currently support the Romney/Ryan ticket. Despite conventional wisdom, black voters are on track to vote in numbers equivalent to 2008. Only 4% say they are less interested in voting in the upcoming election than they were in 2008. 85% say they are following the election closely.( http://uspolitics.einnews.com/pr_news/112155514/bet-news-poll-reveals-the-g-o-p-is-on-track-for-the-worst-showing-with-black-voters-in-modern-history the way, I can't find any poll of Ohio which put Obama ahead by 9, nor one that states African-Americans favor Romney by 10 points in Ohio, so unless you can provide cites, I reject your statements. On the other hand, numerous polls have found an aggregate of Obama over Romney by 1.4 IN OHIO, none I can find by 9 points. ( http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html).
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:25 PM
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