REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Biden-Ryan True Believers Contrast More Than Obama-Romney

POSTED BY: NIKI2
UPDATED: Thursday, October 11, 2012 09:33
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 713
PAGE 1 of 1

Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:33 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I found this to be an interesting condensation of the upcoming VP debate:
Quote:

The next turn of the U.S. presidential race hinges on two men who embody the philosophical differences between the political parties more starkly than the candidates at the top of the tickets.

Democrats are counting on Vice President Joe Biden, 69, an old-school party veteran at home in union halls and firehouses, to discredit Republican nominee Mitt Romney’s agenda. Republicans are pushing for Paul Ryan, 42, a self-proclaimed “young gun” of conservatives, to attack President Barack Obama’s economic stewardship and maintain the momentum Romney gained in the first presidential debate on Oct. 3.

Biden and Ryan also will have to use their ties to core party supporters to boost turnout in an election in which polls show as few as 4 percent of likely voters are undecided.

“I can’t think of a vice presidential debate that’s had this high a level of attention because of something that’s already happened,” said Michael Berman, a former senior aide to then-Vice President Walter Mondale, now president of the Duberstein Group, a Washington lobbying firm founded by Ronald Reagan’s former chief of staff. The stakes are greater even than Biden’s debate with the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, whose selection excited broad public interest, he said.

When the vice presidential candidates take the stage at Centre College in Danville, Kentucky, they are likely to deploy the forceful arguments they’ve used on the stump.

Biden campaigns in the scrappy language of the white working-class voters he grew up among in Scranton, Pennsylvania, distilling Obama’s record into a bumper-sticker phrase, “Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors (GM) is alive.” He has praised the president as a “gutsy” leader.

Ryan has fired off criticism at the Democratic incumbents, telling the Republican National Convention that Obama’s vision for America is “a dull, adventureless journey from one entitlement to the next, a government-planned life, a country where everything is free but us.”

They also offer a clear contrast on approaches to issues such as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Those popular programs, which provide health insurance and pensions to more than 100 million middle- and lower-income Americans, are also key drivers of the nation’s long-term budget deficits.

Joel Goldstein, a scholar of the vice presidency and law professor at St. Louis University, said, “I don’t think we’ve ever had a vice presidential candidate who was so identified with a controversial central issue of the campaign as Ryan has been.”

While Nixon was at the forefront of efforts to purge the U.S. government of suspected communists, and 1964 Democratic nominee Hubert Humphrey was an early advocate for civil rights legislation, “their name wasn’t on it in the same way” as Ryan’s plans for the overhaul of Medicare and other entitlement programs, Goldstein said.

Biden has a closer link than Obama to such traditional Democratic constituencies as unions, the elderly, Jewish organizations and women’s groups, Goldstein said.

Biden, the oldest of the four men who will stand at the podium in the debates, also is steeped in his party’s commitment to social programs that support retirees, said Howard Dean, a former Democratic National Committee chairman and onetime presidential candidate.

“Joe has a very deep connection with the old Democratic Party, which is all about the Great Society and the New Deal,” Dean said. “He’s not likely to give up the store in terms of Medicare and Social Security, and people know that.”

Within the Obama administration, Biden also has been a voice for the liberal side on issues such as reducing the U.S. troop commitment in Afghanistan.

Both vice presidential candidates have embraced the presidential running mate’s traditional role in attacking the opposing camp on the campaign trail and in speeches to their respective party national conventions.

Ryan, a Wisconsin lawmaker who is chairman of the House Budget Committee, portrayed Obama and Biden as politicians of the past who have “run out of ideas,” in a nationally televised speech in August accepting his nomination at the Republican convention in Tampa, Florida.

Both candidates have strayed into controversy in making their cases. Independent fact-checkers found as many as seven statements in Ryan’s acceptance speech that were false or distorted. Republicans expressed outrage after Biden told a racially mixed audience in Virginia in August that Romney’s policies toward Wall Street would “put y’all back in chains.”

Steve Schmidt, chief strategist for Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s 2008 campaign, said the impetus will be even greater on Biden to take up the role as attacker because Obama didn’t effectively counter Romney last week.

“The Republican argument can’t go unrebutted in this debate from the Democratic perspective,” said Schmidt, who helped prepare Palin in 2008 and Dick Cheney in 2004 for vice presidential debates. “All the opportunities that they view as missed opportunities to draw blood, to make a rebuttal, they’ll be looking at Joe Biden to do that.”

Though the main objective for both Biden and Ryan will be to make the case for the presidential candidates, the philosophical and intellectual grounding each has for his views provides an advantage going in to the event, said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a candidate in this election’s presidential primaries who participated in debates among the Republican field.

“It will be a fun debate between two true believers,” Gingrich said. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-11/biden-ryan-true-believers-con
trast-more-than-obama-romney-1-.html


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE

OTHER TOPICS

DISCUSSIONS
With apologies to JSF: Favorite songs (3)
Tue, November 5, 2024 23:39 - 69 posts
Elections; 2024
Tue, November 5, 2024 23:37 - 4541 posts
In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
Tue, November 5, 2024 23:37 - 4678 posts
Election fraud.
Tue, November 5, 2024 17:19 - 39 posts
Multiculturalism
Tue, November 5, 2024 17:16 - 53 posts
Funny Cartoon sparks Islamic Jihad !
Tue, November 5, 2024 17:12 - 248 posts
Elon Musk
Tue, November 5, 2024 16:57 - 32 posts
Electoral College, ReSteal 2024 Edition
Tue, November 5, 2024 16:55 - 40 posts
What kind of superpower could China be?
Tue, November 5, 2024 16:02 - 54 posts
End of the Democratic Party (not kidding)
Tue, November 5, 2024 14:18 - 56 posts
Disgruntled Tepublicans vow to move to Australia
Tue, November 5, 2024 13:53 - 76 posts
Kamala Harris for President
Tue, November 5, 2024 13:47 - 639 posts

FFF.NET SOCIAL