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Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:44 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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The Republican National Committee did little Thursday to quell the uproar over a controversial Facebook posting by committeeman Dave Agema of Michian on “filthy” homosexuals that has prompted calls for his resignation or removal from the party’s leadership.

On Wednesday, Agema copy-pasted an article by “Frank Joseph, M.D.” entitled “Everyone Should Know These Statistics on Homosexuals” onto his Facebook page. The article includes the statement that “part of the homosexual agenda is to get the public to affirm their filthy lifestyle.”

The posting was quickly flagged and denounced by a group of young Republicans, led by precinct delegate and operative Dennis Lennox, that includes many college Republicans. “This isn’t about what we believe either politically or as women and men of faith,” the Republicans said in a statement to reporters late Wednesday. “This is about common decency and realizing that you cannot win an election by insulting a wide swath of the electorate, whose votes our Republican Party needs to once again form a national majority. We do not have confidence in Mr. Agema representing the best interests of our fellow Michigan Republicans and as a result ask him to resign from his seat on the Republican National Committee.”

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus responded to the controversy in a statement to TIME Thursday: “The party’s position on traditional marriage is clear but as I have been saying, all human beings deserve to be treated with dignity and respect,” he said. But Priebus stopped short of directly condemning Agema.

That response echoed remarks by Michigan GOP chairman Bobby Schostak, who implied that the statement “undermines” the party platform but did not repudiate the posting or call for Agema to step aside.

In a statement, Agema didn’t back down from posting the article, saying the media had taken someone else’s words as his own. “I copied and pasted a piece written by another author onto Facebook and some conservative publications and even a few liberal Republicans have chosen to take the words of someone else and cast them as my own,” he said. “I think it was a piece worth sharing given the debate over gay marriage that is happening in the Supreme Court. I strongly maintain my position in support of marriage as being between a man and a woman and will not back down from my core beliefs in support of strengthening the family.”

Lennox encouraged the RNC to take a tougher line against Agema.

“It’s clear that Republicans need to learn a lesson in the wake of Todd Aiken, Sharron Angle, and other candidates who have said deplorable things like this,” he said. “They spit in the face of voters whose support we need if we’re going to win the White House again.” http://swampland.time.com/2013/03/28/rnc-chair-urges-dignity-and-respe
ct-for-all-after-michigan-gop-officials-facebook-post-on-filthy-homosexuals/


One would almost be tempted to feel sorry for the poor Republicans; no matter how hard they try to make their "message" more palatable, there's always an Agema, Aiken or Angle out there to trip them up. But the "almost" disappears when you read the REAL message: "They spit in the face of voters whose support we need if we’re going to win the White House again" and are reminded that their stance hasn't changed, they're just trying to soft-shoe it to get back in power...

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Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:32 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Oh, you ain't seen nothin' yet, Niki.


Think the GOP always supports the troops? THINK AGAIN!

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/26/former-sc-gop-rep-to-anti-war-
iraq-war-vet-you-shouldve-come-home-in-a-body-bag
/

Here's former GOP South Carolina party head Todd Kincannon speaking about an Iraq War veteran who oppposes the war:

“What do you get when you combine asshattery and jizzwhistlery with a side of epic douchebaggery? Why, you get @MikePrysner!”

“This cocksucker @MikePrysner insults American policemen yet thinks Hugo Chavez, currently burning in Hell, was a misunderstood humanitarian.”

"@MikePrysner: You are an Iraq veteran? Shame you didn't come home in a body bag."

"Go read what the asshole wrote. I wish the Iraqis had better aim with his ass."

"Yes, I hope if that guy ever is in combat again, the enemy splatters his brains JFK-style. He deserves it."




But don't worry - I'm sure he doesn't represent ALL of the party. There's probably three Republicans somewhere who disagree with him...



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:36 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Where DO they get these people? No, wait, don't answer that...

...brrrrrr...

ETA: Then again, checking him out, it seems he's a Bachmann-style attention getter:
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Kincannon, a prominent Columbia, S.C. attorney who brands himself as “the Honey Badger of American politics,” has been manufacturing these sorts of scandals a lot lately. Which begs the question … is that evidence of his own depravity? Or evidence of a culture that’s dying to be offended?

“Kincannon tweets morning, noon and night – sometimes all night long,” we wrote the last time he got in trouble. “And he’s almost always tweeting with an eye on creating precisely the sort of controversy in which he is currently engaged.”


So I guess no surprise there...


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Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:49 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Of course, they've got a whole bag full of folks just itching to show the right's "true colors" and screw up any chances the Republicans have of being taken seriously. I offer for your amusement (or to cross your eyes)::
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So here’s the top ten ridiculous republican anti-gay comments:

1. “If you’re involved in the gay and lesbian lifestyle, it’s bondage. It is personal bondage, personal despair and personal enslavement.” ~ Michele Bachmann (New Civil Rights Movement)

2. “It isn’t that some gay will get some rights. It’s that everyone else in our state will lose rights. For instance, parents will lose the right to protect and direct the upbringing of their children. Because our K-12 public school system, of which ninety per cent of all youth are in the public school system, they will be required to learn that homosexuality is normal, equal and perhaps you should try it. And that will occur immediately, that all schools will begin teaching homosexuality.” ~ Michele Bachmann (New Civil Rights Movement)

3. “If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. ” ~ Rick Santorum. (New Civil Rights Movement)

4.“”If we cannot have moral feelings against homosexuality, can we have it against murder? Can we have it against other things? I don’t apologize for the things I raise. … I’m surprised you aren’t persuaded.” ~ Supreme Court Justice Scalia during Princeton University Appearance — 2012 (ABC News)

5. “Every society in the history of man has upheld the institution of marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. Why? Because society is based on one thing: that society is based on the future of the society. And that’s what? Children. Monogamous relationships. In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That’s not to pick on homosexuality. It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality.” ~ Rick Santorum. (New Civil Rights Movement)

6. “I‘m not ashamed to admit that I’m a Christian, but you don’t need to be in the pew in the country every Sunday to know that there’s something wrong with this country when gays can openly serve in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school.” ~ Texas Governor Rick Perry (HuffPo)

7. “Gay and lesbian people can choose to be straight just like people can choose to be celibate.” ~ Newt Gingrich (Little Green Footballs)

8. “Marriage between a man and a woman is at the heart of our civilization. It’s a belief that is now under attack, yet it’s at the very core of defining who we are.” ~ Newt Gingrich (HuffPo)

9. “Of course, it is our moral heritage that one should not hate any human being or class of human beings. But I had thought that one could consider certain conduct reprehensible — murder, for example, or polygamy, or cruelty to animals — and could exhibit even ‘animus’ toward such conduct.” ~ Supreme Court Justice Scalia in Romer v. Evans — 1996 (ABC News)

10. “We need to preserve traditional values for the future of our children. Children must be raised with morals and principles. As a society, we must provide them with a secured and loving environment that allows them to flourish.” ~ California State Sen. Roy Ashburn, a vehemently anti-gay, family values Republican who turned out to be gay.Links for verification can be found at http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/26/top-ten-most-ridiculous-republ
ican-anti-gay-comments-including-justice-scalia-humor/


Amusing that a Supreme Court Justice should find his words quoted in the context of being "Anti-Gay"...goes to show just HOW far we've come from justices who understood the words "justice", "impartial", "equality"...


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Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:59 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Rick Perry, R-TX, yesterday in Austin: "We are a nation built upon a free exchange of ideas. We are also a culture built upon the concept that the original law is God's law outlined in the Ten Commandments, the moral basis for legal codes across our country and around the world."

"...a person can be vilified for stating they believe that, fundamentally, marriage is between a man and a woman."

Hate to break it to ya, Ricky, but the Ten Commandments don't say a goddamned thing about marriage, much less define it as being between a man and a woman.

Oh, wait - they DO reference one thing about marriage: Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Maybe we should outlaw that, eh? Or outlaw divorce, since for so many in the GOP, that whole "one-man-one-woman" definition seems to be read as "at a time."




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:01 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


And sometimes, the message is just TOOO incredibly stupid:


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He starts off talking about regulation for licensing, which is interesting because it initially appears that we’re seeing someone opposed to marriage equality use the rudiments of logic. Unfortunately, as we find out, this ends up being completely false. The statement that licenses exist to regulate behavior that is otherwise illegal is false.

If marriage is about procreation, should we have fertility tests as a part of the licensing process? Maybe you can only stay married as long as you have a Christian child every three years? Marriage isn't about kids. It is a legal representation of a societal relationship/bond. Marriage is important because, once you have that partner, it confers thousands of rights that you cannot otherwise have.

Let’s get something straight for Mr. King here about what the Constitution says about marriage: absolutely nothing. Not a word. Because of that, using the word “contemplation” seems to indicate that the Constitution has thoughts. I’m somewhat skeptical. Also, the “contractual guarantee between each of the generations I have mentioned” bit is pretty confusing as well. A contractual guarantee between generations? Of what? And what generations were mentioned?

It’s literally like somebody wrote this with a certain word density requirement for things like “traditional,” “marriage” and “children,” because this little diatribe really is nonsensical.




Nice try, Congressman King...but an utter fail.


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Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:02 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Looks to me as if these folks are actively trying to destroy the GOP.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:32 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And they're getting really good at it.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, March 28, 2013 1:25 PM

STORYMARK


More power to 'em!




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:02 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


No, they really are that stupid.


The scarier part is how many of them keep getting elected to office. That either says something unflattering about the competition, or about American voters in general.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:25 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Feh - these creeps, the ones in Michigan aren't actually part of the Bush corpie cabal or even the main thrust of the GOP, they are part of the Dick DeVos-Rick Snyder-Erik Prince cult cabal which hangs out over in Holland, MI and has little ego-stroking circle-jerk parties where they tell each other how great they are.

They are not only sociopathic and malicious, they're downright crazy in a psycho-religious crusader lets-cause-WWIII and jumpstart the Rapture kinda way - and this is on TOP of the vulture-crony capitalism and hate the poor that they created elitism.

Seriously, you wanna know HOW nuts they are ?
We slipped a recorder into the game on one of their little speeches at their little "Festival" a while back, and got some of this loony crusader bullshit on tape.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/secret-erik-prince-tape-exposed
And don't even get me started on Synders repeated efforts to sabotage and subvert the democratic process, or the deep rooted lunacy and hatred of most of the hangers-on, one of which had to be outright fired for his blatant bigotry and intolerance not long ago, which included stalking and harrassing GBLT people, one in particular, while on the job with the MI Attorney Generals office and using their resources to do it.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/attorney-andrew-shirvell-ordered-pay-45-milli
on-attacks/story?id=17028621

http://www.freep.com/article/20121228/NEWS06/312280120/Unemployment-be
nefits-for-fired-assistant-state-attorney-general-stand-judge-says


So, when it comes to this particular subsect of the GOP, words kinda fail at describing just HOW crazy they are, and outside of their little privately owned social clubs and whatnot, they are *VERY* not-welcome in most areas of this state, up to and including businesses refusing to serve them, which is a mild point of contention around here as some local ones right around here are upset they have to drive elsewhere to buy groceries after being punted from the two local marts for racist comments and behavior.

-F

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Friday, March 29, 2013 1:13 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And then there's this guy...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/28/republican-congressman-refers-to
-latino-workers-as-wetbacks
/

Quote:

Republican Rep. Don Young of Alaska on Thursday used a racial slur during an interview with a local radio station.

“My father had a ranch. We used to hire 50 or 60 wetbacks to pick tomatoes,” Young said in the interview with KRBD. “You know, it takes two people to pick the same tomatoes now. It’s all done by machine.”

The congressman was discussing the need to reduce the need for imports by bringing industries back to the United States.





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, March 29, 2013 9:21 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
And then there's this guy...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/28/republican-congressman-refers-to
-latino-workers-as-wetbacks
/

Quote:

Republican Rep. Don Young of Alaska on Thursday used a racial slur during an interview with a local radio station.

“My father had a ranch. We used to hire 50 or 60 wetbacks to pick tomatoes,” Young said in the interview with KRBD. “You know, it takes two people to pick the same tomatoes now. It’s all done by machine.”

The congressman was discussing the need to reduce the need for imports by bringing industries back to the United States.






Dude said it on the radio... in an interview ? Not merely a ' hot mic ', but right there during the program, huh?

Stupid clearly is bi-partisan.

Side note... what do Mexicans call those who come into their country illegally from Guatemala and S.America ? Do they call then 'illegal' immigrants ? 'Illegals' ? Foreigners ?

Or what about Canadians... what do they call US citizens who illegally try to move to Canada and live ?




Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 29, 2013 9:33 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
And then there's this guy...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/28/republican-congressman-refers-to
-latino-workers-as-wetbacks
/

Quote:

Republican Rep. Don Young of Alaska on Thursday used a racial slur during an interview with a local radio station.

“My father had a ranch. We used to hire 50 or 60 wetbacks to pick tomatoes,” Young said in the interview with KRBD. “You know, it takes two people to pick the same tomatoes now. It’s all done by machine.”

The congressman was discussing the need to reduce the need for imports by bringing industries back to the United States.






Dude said it on the radio... in an interview ? Not merely a ' hot mic ', but right there during the program, huh?




Yup, right there on live radio, during the interview.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/29/gop_rep_don_young_re
fers_to_latinos_as_wetbacks.html





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Friday, March 29, 2013 12:50 PM

PENGUIN


Speaking of Iowa...

Iowa conservative Christians condemn homosexuality, youth conference

Conservative Christian leaders are again condemning a conference for gay youths, and 16 state lawmakers have pledged to vote against state funding for the Des Moines Area Community College unless the school withholds tax money from next week’s conference.

“We cannot in good conscience vote to give taxpayer dollars to people or groups who pervert the Bible (and) teach our youth to engage in dangerous behavior,” the legislators’ statement says.

It’s signed by Republican Sens. David Johnson of Ocheyedan, Mark Segebart of Vail, Mark Chelgren of Ottumwa, Dennis Guth of Klemme, Bill Anderson of Pierson, Kent Sorenson of Milo and Rick Bertrand of Sioux City; and Reps. Dwayne Alons of Hull, Greg Heartsill of Melcher-Dallas, Dean Fisher of Montour, Robert Bacon of Maxwell, Tom Shaw of Laurens, Jason Schultz of Schleswig, Ralph Watts of Adel, Larry Sheets of Moulton, and Sandy Salmon of Janesville.

Several conservative Christian leaders gathered for a news conference today to condemn homosexuality and again call upon Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad to demand organizers of the Iowa Governors Conference on LGBTQ Youth remove his title from its name.

It’s a repeat of a similar battle last year.

The conference, now in its eighth year, is aimed at fighting bullying of gay, lesbian and transgender students and those questioning their sexuality. It’s run by Iowa Safe Schools, an organization that fights bullying, which it says can lead to poor school performance and suicide. More than 600 students will attend the event on Wednesday at Prairie Meadows in Altoona.





King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:45 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Hi, Brenda. Thanx for the smile...several of them, in fact...of reading someone who's obviously sane and sensible still manage to be shocked by our poor right-wing whackos. And yes, as you've seen all too well by now, this sort of idiocy is the RULE, far more than the exception, from the right these days. It wasn't always like this...I'm wondering if things are going SO wrong in SO many ways--which is what it must look like from their perspective--that they've lost any semblance of sanity.

I mean, gay marriage is being debated, and will win in the end one way or another; the "war on drugs" is being dissed left and right; Iraq didn't turn out the way they thought it would; they're not far from no longer being the majority "race" in the country; and oh my good gawd Jezus: There's a BLACK MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE! Coming from their mentality, it's gotta be reeeely weird and pretty scary, all this happening in such a short space of time, don'tcha think? All this must mean we're all going to hell, or the End Times are upon us, or whatever they reach for in their desperation.

On top of that, the kinds of things they believe, and have always felt fully free to say out loud, are being frowned on more and more...it's hard to start self-censoring when you're used to being able to spout whatever you want and NOT hear it all over national TV and have the majority of the country rise up and call you names as a result. One could almost feel pity for them...almost!

America is in a time of flux, we've kind of gone in a short time from Bush, when everything they believed in was pretty much on top, to now. I think they're suffering culture shock, myownself, and it's got 'em rattled. Which is a good thing; but I DO want the saner elements of the right to get a handle on things before too long...I want two VIABLE parties (at least), and despite their canny moves in the states and regarding things like unions and abortion (may they rot in hell), if this keeps up they'll truly become an irrelevant fringe...and that's not good for anyone.


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Saturday, March 30, 2013 7:34 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Sigh...
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Carson told FOX News host Sean Hannity Tuesday, “My thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It’s a well-established, fundamental pillar of society and no group, be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality–it doesn’t matter what they are–they don’t get to change the definition.”

And now:
Quote:

Dr. Ben Carson Apologizes: "I Love Gay People"

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who rose to GOP fame in recent months, apologized Friday for appearing to equate homosexuality with the criminal acts of pedophilia and bestiality.

"I love gay people. I love straight people. So this was really, I think, on my behalf, somewhat insensitive and I certainly apologize if I offended anyone, because I was not in any way comparing gays with people who engage in bestiality or sexual child abuse," Carson said on CNN's "The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer."


My gawd I'm sick to death of "I apologize IF I offended anyone..." from assholes like this. He went further:
Quote:

“What I was basically saying and if anyone was offended, I apologize to you. What I was basically saying is there is no group. I wasn’t equating those things, I don’t think they’re equal. If you ask me for an apple and I give you an orange you would say, that’s not an orange. And I say, that’s a banana. And that’s not an apple either. Or a peach, that’s not an apple, either. It doesn’t mean that I’m equating the banana and the orange and the peach. In the same way I’m not equating those things.”

“My impression is what’s being asked for is the convenience of the title marriage, which is an institution that was established by God,” Carson said. “You know, I’m not sure that is the same thing. Everybody has right of association. And if we don’t give them the right to transfer property and to have you know, visitation, etc., then we really should be examining that.”


Nah, of COURSE he was making no comparison, anyone can see that, so who could possibly be offended?

He went on to show his ignorance, as do they all, given that no, marriage isn't an institution that was established by "God", his or anyone else's!

And assholes like this:
Quote:

Johns Hopkins University defends Dr. Ben Carson

Johns Hopkins University is standing by Dr. Ben Carson, even after the neurosurgeon’s anti-gay remarks, Dennis O’Shea, executive director of the university’s media relations said.

“Dr. Carson is a distinguished Johns Hopkins surgeon and scientist chosen to speak at the School of Medicine diploma ceremony because of his extraordinary accomplishments as a neurosurgeon and his many contributions as an advocate for education and children,” O’Shea said. “He was not asked to speak because of his personal political, religious or social views. His personal views are just that, his own. When he speaks about them, he is not speaking on behalf of Johns Hopkins.”


Duh; contributions as an advocate for children??? Nah, no relationship.
Quote:

Carson’s comparison of gay relationships to pedophilia (NAMBLA stands for the North American Man/Boy Love Association) and bestiality has caused the pediatric neurosurgeon to fall from his perch as a Republican rising a star in recent days. Earlier this month, he drew a standing ovation at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), and just last month, he publicly slammed President Obama’s position on taxes, the deficit, and health care while addressing three thousand people at the National Prayer Breakfast. The president watched from the dais, just a few feet away. In 2008, former President George W. Bush presented Carson with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian honor.

Looks like another "rising star" has fallen, and probably won't even be giving the commencement speech:
Quote:

Johns Hopkins students are campaigning to have Dr. Ben Carson pulled from this year's commencement speaker line-up, in response to comments the well-known neurosurgeon, a critic of the Obama administration, made about gay marriage.

Students accused Carson of effectively comparing "gay relationships with pedophilia and bestiality."

"At the time of his nomination, Dr. Carson was known to most of us as a world-class neurosurgeon and passionate advocate for education. Many of us had read his books and looked up to him as a role model in our careers," the group said. "Since then, however, several public events have cast serious doubt on the appropriateness of having Dr. Carson speak at our graduation."

The group cited his gay marriage comments, but also his comments at the National Prayer Breakfast.

Carson also told the Baltimore Sun that people "have completely taken the wrong meaning out of what I was saying."

He added: "Now perhaps the examples were not the best choice of words, and I certainly apologize if I offended anyone. But the point that I was making was that no group of individuals, whoever they are, whatever their belief systems, gets to change traditional definitions."


Again unclear on the concept; the American people don't get to change traditional definitions? Shall we list them?

As to the Prayer Breakfast, apparently he was trying to get his political "star" to "rise" even then:
Quote:

“He (Carson) was visited on at least two occasions and told not to get into anything political,” says conservative columnist Cal Thomas, one of the organizers of the breakfast and host of an annual pre-breakfast dinner. “He was told not to embarrass the president. The people who told him that were shocked and angry. This came out of nowhere. Now he’s all over TV doing a victory lap. There’s not a whole lot of humility there.”

The interesting thing about Dr. Carson’s nearly 30 minute speech was that he barely mentioned religion. Except for the opening texts and a confused reference to Jesus at the end, his speech was completely political at an event that has always been strictly bipartisan. The idea is to bring people together, not to push them apart. If you hadn’t known he was at the National Prayer Breakfast you would have thought he was the candidate at the Republican Convention.

“It’s not my intention to offend anyone,” he said. “I have discovered, however, in recent years that it’s very difficult to speak to a large group of people these days and not offend anyone.”

Then he proceeded to offend some, with an aside “The PC police are out in full force at all times.” Political correctness,” he believes “is a horrible thing. I’m very very compassionate and I’m not ever out to offend anyone. But PC is dangerous.”

Carson started off on education, in his rambling, sometimes impossible to follow speech. He decried our educational system saying it had been “dumbed down” but advised “If you really want to be impressed , take a look at the chapter on education in my latest book, ‘America The Beautiful’ which I wrote with my wife.”

The second text:

“Proverbs 11:12 A man who lacks judgment derides his neighbor, but through knowledge the righteous escapes.”

With that message, he took it upon himself to insult lawyers. “What do lawyers learn in law school,” he asked. “To win, by hook or by crook. You gotta win, so you got all of these Democrat lawyers, and you got all of these Republican lawyers and their sides want to win. We need to get rid of that. What we need to start thinking about is, how do we solve problems?”

“Now, before I get shot,” he continued, “let me finish.” He didn’t finish.

At this point it was still not clear what he was trying to say. There was no theme except to insult the president which he knew perfectly well he was doing. In fact, he admitted later on a TV show that Obama had thanked him after the speech and said the address was very good. Though the president may have been gracious, it was quite clear he was not happy with being ambushed by Carson at the National Prayer Breakfast. The White House had asked numerous times for a copy of the speech beforehand and Carson had refused, saying he didn’t have a text and never used a teleprompter. Of the president’s reaction, Carson said to The Blaze’s Billy Hallowell, “I was kind of surprised. Because I figured he would just be fuming. But he probably figured that’s what everyone figured and he knew people were watching.”


So it would appear yet another who couldn't keep his mouth shut (or couldn't think before blowing it out his mouth) adds to the embarrassment of the Republican Party.

Poor babies...


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Sunday, March 31, 2013 3:40 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, two's DEFINITELY not enough (parties, that is). There is no perfect form, but we need our politicians to be forced into those ugly words, you know, "compromise" and "cooperation", and with two polarized parties, it don't happen...especially now!!

I've wished for that for a loooong time...I've also kinda wished for the British form of government insofar as the Vote of No Confidence. Messy as hell, but again, I believe serves the same purpose, that of making the bastards work TOGETHER, at least somewhat, sometimes... !

By the way, the right were "nodding their heads" because the didn't want Hillary Clinton nominated, I think, more than anything. That, and they never believed an African American could actually be ELECTED President, so he was perfect for them...


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