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When Buddhists Go Bad

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Sunday, June 23, 2013 8:14 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Terrorist Buddhists: My world is truly going insane...and it grieves me:


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It's a faith famous for its pacifism and tolerance. But in several of Asia's Buddhist-majority nations, monks are inciting bigotry and violence--mostly against Muslims

The spectacle of faith makes for luminous photography. Buddhism, in particular, lends itself to the lens: those shaven heads and richly hued monastic robes; the swirls of incense; the pure expressions of devotees to a religion whose first precept is “do not kill.” But as photographer Adam Dean and I discovered when traveling through Burma and Thailand from May to June, Buddhism’s pacifist image is being challenged by a radical strain that marries spirituality with ethnic chauvinism. In Buddhist-majority Burma, where communal clashes have proliferated over the past year, scores of Muslims have been killed by Buddhist mobs, while in Thailand and Sri Lanka the fabric binding temple and state is being stitched ever tighter.

The godfather of radical Buddhism is a monk named Wirathu, a slight presence with an outsized message of hate. Adam followed Wirathu, who has taken the title of “Burmese bin Laden,” around Mandalay in central Burma, as he preached his loathing of the country’s Muslim minority to schoolchildren and housewives alike. In March, tensions detonated in the town of Meikhtila, where communal violence ended dozens of lives, mostly Muslim. Entire Muslim quarters were razed by Buddhists hordes. Even today, anxiety churns. One late afternoon as Adam walked near Wirathu’s monastic compound, a monk hurled a brick at him. Burgundy robes cannot camouflage inborn hostility.

In Southern Thailand, which was once united as a Muslim Malay sultanate, monks count on soldiers to shield them from harm. A separatist insurgency has claimed around 5,000 lives since 2004, and while more Muslims have died, it is Buddhists who feel particularly vulnerable as targets of shadowy militants. The Thai military now stations its troops in Buddhist temple compounds, further cleaving a pair of religions whose followers once shared each other’s feast days. One morning in mid-June, a bomb exploded in Kradoh, Pattani province, as Thai rangers patrolled a street where a peace and reconciliation meeting was taking place. Chanchote Phetpong, 28, who was clutching a bag of rose apples as he strolled, endured the brunt of the explosion; his orphaned fruit lay scattered in a pool of his blood.

At the nearby Yarang hospital, Adam photographed as teachers, mostly Buddhist, came to pay their respects to the dead ranger, who normally protected them as they walked to school each day. A Muslim nurse with a head covering quietly plucked shrapnel out of Chanchote’s face, cleaning him up for his funeral, while another tended to one of his wounded comrades. A clutch of Buddhist rangers looked on. The nurses’ veils felt like a reproach, a symbol of the divide between faiths in this nervous land. “They are scared of all of us,” whispered one Muslim hospital worker. “We used to have trust but that’s gone.” http://lightbox.time.com/2013/06/20/when-buddhists-go-bad-photographs-
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More at http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2146000,00.html?pcd=h
p-magmod
and http://world.time.com/2013/06/20/extremist-buddhist-monks-fight-oppres
sion-with-violence
/, which asks "As the violence mounts, will Buddhists draw inspiration from their faith’s sutras of compassion and peace to counter religious chauvinism? Or will they succumb to the hate speech of radical monks like Burma’s Wirathu, who goads his followers to “rise up” against Islam? The world’s judgment awaits."

Wirathu, by the way, is lashing back at Time magazine after seeing his image splashed across the cover with the words “Face of Buddhist Terror.” He has called on Buddhists in Burma to unite against “a growing Muslim threat.” So it's not just here, and it's happening in a religion I never would have believed would be guilty of such hate.

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Sunday, June 23, 2013 8:29 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


It's a photo essay, and I don't want to take the time to resize the photos, so here they are
with foreshortened captions:


Wirathu, the spiritual leader of the 969 Buddhist Nationalist movement, and his entourage


A Wirathu supporter bows at his feet


burnt-out vehicle and damaged buildings razed by Buddhists in ethnic violence in March


Villagers from Kyaw Min drive ahead of Wirathu's vehicle


Burned trees and damaged buildings razed by Buddhists in ethnic violence in March


Thai Army soldier provides security as monks collect alms on morning rounds


Lieutenant talks to military trainers from Thai Army (left) and Buddhist volunteer defense militia (right)


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Sunday, June 23, 2013 8:55 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Buddhist monk Wirathu leads violent national campaign against Myanmar's Muslims

Ashin Wirathu was unapologetic when asked about his role at the center of a rising tide of Buddhist extremism that has crested in a wave of anti-Muslim violence resulting in the deaths of more than 200 people and displacement of some 150,000 from their homes in recent months.

“Muslims are like the African carp. They breed quickly and they are very violent and they eat their own kind. Even though they are minorities here, we are suffering under the burden they bring us,” Wirathu, 48, said .

“Because the Burmese people and the Buddhists are devoured every day, the national religion needs to be protected,” he said, announcing that he would push for a ban on interfaith marriage before the next parliamentary session and vowing to continue the so-called “969” campaign that calls for Buddhists to only do business with other Buddhists and exclude Muslims who have a strong tradition as merchants in Myanmar.

Myanmar, also known as Burma, is made of eight major ethnic groups, but 90 percent of the population is Buddhist.

Wirathu’s sermons play on the fear among some Buddhists in certain parts of Myanmar of a rising Muslim population that some feel is threatening the majority Buddhist religion and its traditions. Wirathu and others have spurred a movement known as “969,” which calls for Buddhists to band together to defend their faith and for Buddhists to do business only with other Buddhists. The numerology of the “969” movement refers to the virtues of the Buddha, the practices of the faith and the community. The distinctive “969” stickers are ubiquitous on shops, motorcycles and car windows.

Wirathu has also pushed a ban against interfaith marriage, claiming that the Buddhist majority is diluted by such marriages and reeling off one anecdote after another of forced conversions of Buddhist women to Islam. Many critics here and abroad say Wirathu’s sermons are racist rants against Muslims who he has likened to “mad dogs” and “cannibals” and, in perhaps a more charitable and consistent reference, as simply “troublemakers.”

But Wirathu’s movement is gaining a wider and wider following.

He heads the Ma Soeyein monastery attended by some 2,500 monks, has an active Facebook page and leads speaking tours that attract thousands of followers. Wirathu is also gathering signatures for a petition to introduce the interfaith marriage legislation which he has titled, “Safeguarding the National Identity.”

“The people are requesting that we put forward the ‘Safeguarding the National Identity’ law,” he said, adding, “I am committed to working on this law until it is passed.”

This proposed law, if it does come to a vote, would likely put pro-democracy leader Aung San Suu Kyi, who was elected to parliament two years ago, and those who support her efforts in a difficult position.

Political observers say it will put them between their hopes to unify the many different ethnic groups that have been fighting a series of open conflicts with the previous military regime and a broad populist streak among the majority ethnic Burmans who are coalescing around this new brand of Buddhist nationalism.

The proposed ban on interfaith marriage is not new in Burma, and it has been implemented in other countries in the region, including Singapore. It is similar to a popular idea that first emerged in the 1930s and called for a strong nationalist movement. And this is not the first time that Buddhist monks have used their authority to influence the history of Myanmar. They have always been part of major political movements.

Wirathu himself is no stranger to activism; he was arrested in 2003 for political incitement and served seven years in prison before he was reportedly released as part of a government amnesty program. Buddhist monks were also at the head of the 2007 "Saffron Revolution,” in which monks took to the streets in large numbers to protest the rising prices of food and fuel. Images of the military cracking down on the monks with tear gas and batons were carried around the world and served to propel the pro-democracy movement.

The current Burmese parliament was elected two years ago in what was widely seen as Burma’s first free and fair elections in more than a half century. And if this proposed law banning interfaith marriage is indeed introduced, it will mark the first time in history that parliament will consider a law concerning a national religion.

Wirathu said that theological authorities were “shaping the movement.”

A few days ago in Mhawbi, just outside of Yangon, more than 200 monks gathered at what they called a "peace conference," where this law was given shape, he said.

“Legal experts are now writing up a rough draft of the law,” he said. “And there will be a public announcement of this law on the 27th of June.”

Wirathu continued, “We will finish collecting the signatures by the 30th of June. We have found parliamentary members who will introduce this legislation. We also have parliamentary members who will support this legislation. However, the final decision will have to be made through a vote.”

However, the “Safeguarding the National Identity” law is rejected by the intellectual community, human rights groups and many civil society organizations. Mandalay, a city where the “969” movement has taken root, is famous for a strong intellectual community that has supported the pro-democracy movement. One member of that community is Nyi Pu Ley, a writer and artist, who has soundly criticized Wirathu’s proposed legislation.

“Doing this is like raising the political flag unnecessarily because there are many laymen. This is popular among the laymen. The “969” group and the Mandalay people are not on the same page,” he said.

But many learned monks from the Buddhist university are lending support to Wirathu and his proposed law. In a country where monks have a great deal of moral authority, political observers including Nyi Pu Ley fear this could lead to a large nationalist movement.

Thant Myint–U, a historian, author and most recently an adviser to the president, said, “Monks in Myanmar should concentrate more on religious matters rather than political matters. Many people in Myanmar, including those in Mandalay, are worried that there will be more outbursts of religions violence in their communities. People do not want this killing and this violence.” http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/groundtruth-burm
a/buddhist-monk-wirathu-969-muslims-myanmar
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New freedoms of speech have made it easier to disseminate radical views, while exposing deep-seeded racism felt by much of the population toward Muslims and other minorities.

There has been almost no public outcry when Buddhist mobs have marched into villages brandishing machetes and clubs, but the appearance of a Burmese monk on the cover of the glossy international magazine with an inflammatory title was apparently too much.

The social networking site Facebook was alight with criticism.

Few took the opportunity to criticise Wirathu, however, saying it was further evidence of media bias. The monk has repeatedly called on Buddhists to unite against the "threat" Muslims pose to the country and its culture, accusing them of breeding too fast and hijacking the business community.

The Time article quoted him as saying this was not the time to stay calm.

"Now is the time to rise up, to make your blood boil," he said. Exerpts from Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world-news/is-this-the-face-of-buddhist-terrori
sm/story-fndir2ev-1226667862347#ixzz2X4Aocftd
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Buddhist monk uses racism and rumours to spread hatred in Burma

Thousands watch YouTube videos of 45-year-old 'Burmese Bin Laden' who preaches against country's Muslim minority

His name is Wirathu, he calls himself the "Burmese Bin Laden" and he is a Buddhist monk who is stoking religious hatred across Burma.

The saffron-robed 45-year-old regularly shares his hate-filled rants through DVD and social media, in which he warns against Muslims who "target innocent young Burmese girls and rape them", and "indulge in cronyism".

To ears untrained in the Burmese language, his sermons seem steady and calm – almost trance-like – with Wirathu rocking back and forth, eyes downcast. Translate his softly spoken words, however, and it becomes clear how his paranoia and fear, muddled with racist stereotypes and unfounded rumours, have helped to incite violence and spread misinformation in a nation still stumbling towards democracy.

"We are being raped in every town, being sexually harassed in every town, being ganged up on and bullied in every town," Wirathu recently told the Guardian, speaking from the Masoeyein monastery in Mandalay where he is based.

"In every town, there is a crude and savage Muslim majority."

It would be easy to disregard Wirathu as a misinformed monk with militant views, were it not for his popularity. Presiding over some 2,500 monks at this respected monastery, Wirathu has thousands of followers on Facebook and his YouTube videos have been watched tens of thousands of times.

The increasing openness of Burma, which was once tightly controlled under a military junta, has seen a wave of anti-Muslim sentiment spread across the 60 million-strong Buddhist majority – and Wirathu is behind much of it.

Rising to prominence in 2001, when he created a nationalist campaign to boycott Muslim businesses, Wirathu was jailed for 25 years in 2003 for inciting anti-Muslim hatred but freed in 2010 under a general amnesty.

Since his release, Wirathu has gone back to preaching hate. Many believe his words inspired the fighting last June between Buddhists and ethnic Rohingya Muslims in Rakhine state, where 200 people were killed and more than 100,000 displaced.

It was Wirathu who led a rally of monks in Mandalay in September to defend President Thein Sein's controversial plan to send the Rohingya to a third country. One month later, more violence broke out in Rakhine state.

Wirathu says the violence in Rakhine was the spark for the most recent fighting in Burma's central city of Meiktila, where a dispute in a gold shop quickly spiralled into a looting-and-arson spree. More than 40 people were killed and 13,000 forced to flee, most of them Muslims, after mosques, shops and houses were burned down across the city.

Not everyone agrees with Wirathu's teachings, including those of his own faith. "He sides a little towards hate," said Abbot Arriya Wuttha Bewuntha of Mandalay's Myawaddy Sayadaw monastery. "This is not the way Buddha taught. What the Buddha taught is that hatred is not good, because Buddha sees everyone as an equal being. The Buddha doesn't see people through religion."

Critics point to Wirathu's lack of education to explain his extremism as little more than ignorance, but his views do have clout in a nation where many businesses are run successfully by Muslims.

The second son of eight children, Wirathu was born in 1968 in a town near Mandalay and only attended school until 14, after which he became a monk. Eager to leave "civilian life rife with its greed and spite", he said he had no intention of marrying: "I didn't want to be with a woman."

Analysts warn that Wirathu's seeming freedom to preach as he pleases – in addition to his influence over other monks, who have also started preaching against Islam – should be taken as a wake-up call to the rest of the world. "If a similar hate movement like Burma's '969' movement – which spreads hate speech and hate symbols – [existed] specifically against, say, the Jews in Europe, no European government would tolerate it," Burmese activist and London School of Economics visiting fellow Maung Zarni said.

"Why should the EU not take it seriously, in a major EU-aid recipient country?"

Both Thein Sein and opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi have been criticised for not taking a greater stand against the violence that has racked Burma in recent months. Some have pointed to the seemingly planned nature of many of the attacks; UN special envoy Vijay Nambiar said the violence had a "brutal efficiency" and cited "incendiary propaganda" as stirring up trouble.

Multifaith activists in Burma recently took to the streets to counter the violence, distributing T-shirts and stickers with the message: "There shall be no racial or religious conflicts because of me." But the Buddhist-Muslim tension has already spread far and wide.

In Rangoon, a recent mosque fire that killed 13 children was widely believed to be a case of arson. And in Indonesia, eight Buddhists were beaten to death by Rohingya Muslims at a detention centre, in apparent retribution for incidents of sexual assault by Buddhist inmates against Rohingya women.

Rumours abound that those inciting the fighting, like Wirathu, are pawns for being used by Burma's military generals to stir up trouble in the nascent democracy. But Wirathu insists he is working alone: "These are my own beliefs," he said. "I want the world to know this."

In a chilling sermon last month, Wirathu warned that the "population explosion" of Burma's Muslims could mean only one thing: "They will capture our country in the end."

And just like his namesake, this "Burmese Bin Laden" made a brazen call to arms: "Once we [have] won this battle, we will move on to other Muslim targets." More at http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/18/buddhist-monk-spreads-hatr
ed-burma



I am ashamed of him, and of them.

And as usual, I learn more from media outside my country than from that within, where the focus is inevitably petty politics and untalented celebrities.

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Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:55 AM

BYTEMITE


In the end, only the individuals believers can be peaceful, in any religion, but the religion itself is another story. The institutions and leadership invariably are about authority, money, influence, power-struggles, intolerance, and ultimately conflict.

It was a member of the warrior caste of India who introduced Buddhism to China. And when push comes to shove, every power will react, violently, to further their agenda/self-interests or protect themselves, no matter if it is under the aspice of legitimate government, or that of spirituality.

I don't mind regular average citizen Buddhists, but then I hear what the Dalai Lama of Tibet has to say about homosexuality, and it's not for me. I understand people needing religion, and that it can bring comfort. But I don't like any religion, even the "peaceful" ones.

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Sunday, June 23, 2013 12:14 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


While Buddhism isn't strictly a religion, in fact not SUPPOSED to be practiced as one in many interpretations, I do agree with you about religions, and about Buddhism when it is "used" as a religion, as in the situation in this thread.

I don't know what you're referring to regarding the Dali Lama and homosexuality. As far as I've ever known, he doesn't condemn anyone or support condemning anyone, whatever his personal opinion may be. What I find is
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In his discussions of the traditional Buddhist view on appropriate sexual behavior, he explains the concept of "right organ in the right object at the right time," which historically has been interpreted as indicating that oral, manual and anal sex (both homosexual and heterosexual) are not appropriate in Buddhism or for Buddhists, yet he also says that in modern times all common, consensual sexual practices that do not cause harm to others are ethically acceptable and that society should not discriminate against gays and lesbians and should accept and respect them from a secular point of view.[72] In a 1994 interview with OUT Magazine, the Dalai Lama clarified his personal opinion on the matter by saying, "If someone comes to me and asks whether homosexuality is okay or not, I will ask 'What is your companion's opinion?'. If you both agree, then I think I would say, 'If two males or two females voluntarily agree to have mutual satisfaction without further implication of harming others, then it is okay.'"

In his 1996 book Beyond Dogma, he described a traditional Buddhist definition of an appropriate sexual act as follows: "A sexual act is deemed proper when the couples use the organs intended for sexual intercourse and nothing else... Homosexuality, whether it is between men or between women, is not improper in itself. What is improper is the use of organs already defined as inappropriate for sexual contact."[74] He elaborated in 1997, explaining that the basis of that teaching was unknown to him. He also conveyed his own "willingness to consider the possibility that some of the teachings may be specific to a particular cultural and historic context".



That from Wikipedia. I'm not sure you can get much more accepting of homosexuality unless you ARE homosexual or bisexual, can you?


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Sunday, June 23, 2013 6:21 PM

BYTEMITE


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While Buddhism isn't strictly a religion, in fact not SUPPOSED to be practiced as one in many interpretations, I do agree with you about religions, and about Buddhism when it is "used" as a religion, as in the situation in this thread.



Yes. That's what I meant.

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That from Wikipedia. I'm not sure you can get much more accepting of homosexuality unless you ARE homosexual or bisexual, can you?



Hmmmm. Either he walked his official opinion back, or the original interview was poorly translated. However, whenever someone says something like that, it's hard to trust them again because there's always that ambiguity about whether it was translation versus what they really think.

In that case, I feel about the Dalai Lama the same way I feel about the new pope. They seem like okay people, except for some things I might disagree with them on, but they might have other things going on (Tibet versus China, power struggles in the Catholic church), and I'm not sure I trust the organization around them.

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Monday, June 24, 2013 4:56 AM

AURAPTOR

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Those intolerant sob's!

Do I really have to say it?

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Monday, June 24, 2013 8:09 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Why would you "have to" say the obvious? Do you have some point to make, or are you just trolling?

Byte, I trust nobody who represents power in a religion, all too often that power is used negatively. I have positive feelings about the new Pope, who shows some indication of reflecting what Christianity is supposedly really about, and the Dali Lama I trust insofar as I KNOW he will NEVER use his power to encourage others to do ill. That is a simple fact. He will express opinions, but everyone's entitled to theirs in my opinion, it's when they start preaching to others that I want nothing to do with them. And what this monk is doing is directly opposed to everything Buddhism is about, which is why he horrifies me.


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Monday, June 24, 2013 8:12 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


" Do you have some point to make, or are you just trolling?"

Oh, let me answer that for him. Just trolling. In fact, trolling is ALL he does. That makes replying to him completely unnecessary.

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Monday, June 24, 2013 10:01 AM

AURAPTOR

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Even the peace loving Buddhists are being driven to violence, all thanks to who ?

Radical , unchecked extremist Muslims.


How is that 'trolling', when I'm stating the obvious. Had *I* started this thread, I'd be accused of bigotry, racism, and who the hell knows what else.

But I didn't. So all you can say is ' TROLL! ', and run away.

That figures.

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Monday, June 24, 2013 12:37 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
" Do you have some point to make, or are you just trolling?"

Oh, let me answer that for him. Just trolling. In fact, trolling is ALL he does. That makes replying to him completely unnecessary.



...Okay. That's fair.

Was going to correct you on the gender, but then decided it's irrelevant. And I did have a point, but I do troll sometimes, so the accusation fits and I don't really care to refute it anyway.

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Monday, June 24, 2013 12:40 PM

BYTEMITE


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And what this monk is doing is directly opposed to everything Buddhism is about, which is why he horrifies me.


Hmmmm

I can't say one way or another, and don't know much about Buddhism, so I will drop it.

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Monday, June 24, 2013 12:51 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Even the peace loving Buddhists are being driven to violence, all thanks to who ?

Radical , unchecked extremist Muslims.


How is that 'trolling', when I'm stating the obvious. Had *I* started this thread, I'd be accused of bigotry, racism, and who the hell knows what else.

But I didn't. So all you can say is ' TROLL! ', and run away.

That figures.




FFF libs outnumber us Conservatives by about 15 to 1, so in their imaginary fiefdom of delusional moral and intellectual superiority they can .....

troll all they want, but we're the trolls.

spam all they want, but we're the spammers.

insult all they want, but we're the insulters.

be as vulgar as they want, but we're the vulgar ones.

dismiss and demean all they want, but we're the disingenuous ones.

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Monday, June 24, 2013 1:39 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Even the peace loving Buddhists are being driven to violence, all thanks to who ?

Radical , unchecked extremist Muslims.


How is that 'trolling', when I'm stating the obvious. Had *I* started this thread, I'd be accused of bigotry, racism, and who the hell knows what else.

But I didn't. So all you can say is ' TROLL! ', and run away.

That figures.




FFF libs outnumber us Conservatives by about 15 to 1, so in their imaginary fiefdom of delusional moral and intellectual superiority they can .....

troll all they want, but we're the trolls.

spam all they want, but we're the spammers.

insult all they want, but we're the insulters.

be as vulgar as they want, but we're the vulgar ones.

dismiss and demean all they want, but we're the disingenuous ones.



Ya nailed it.

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Monday, June 24, 2013 4:18 PM

OONJERAH



Yeah, I'm still 70.


This is the first time in my long life that I've heard of violent

Buddhists, and worse, violence exhorted by a monk!

Niki, it's a sad, bad day!


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A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

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Monday, June 24, 2013 4:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oonjerah, Niki

So sorry to interrupt a serious conversation, it just reminded me of this;

when potato salad goes bad



Please continue ...

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Monday, June 24, 2013 4:41 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Yeah, I'm still 70.


This is the first time in my long life that I've heard of violent

Buddhists, and worse, violence exhorted by a monk!

Niki, it's a sad, bad day!



Of course it's bad. But hey, it was bound to happen eventually. Why ? Because when radical Islam embraces hate and violence, on a global scale, in their god's name, and the rest sit idly by, or only offer the mildest of denouncement, which amounts to little more than lip service, there's going to be some retaliation.

I figured it'd be more from other areas, first. But Buddhists ?

To misquote Jayne... I didn't see THAT comin'!

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Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:45 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Byte, I'm not sure how you manage to misunderstand stuff like this, but let me try to clarify. Kiki's remark was about RAP, not about you. She quoted me, and my remark was obviously to Rap, since I quoted HIM: "Why would you "have to" say the obvious? Do you have some point to make, or are you just trolling?"

Kiki referenced that remark by quoting it directly; the remark was about Rap; none of that had anything to do with you, okay?

Oonj, thank you (I MISS YOU!!!!!!)

Rap blaming Islam for Buddhist violence is predictable, but irrelevant. And obviously this Buddhist and his followers aren't the "first" to get violent toward Muslims, it's been going on for a long time now by "Christians". Nobody is surprised that Rap will find any excuse to try and blame Islam, Muslims, etc., for the egregious words/actions/violence of others. His obsession is well known. It has nothing to do with the issue at hand.


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Tuesday, June 25, 2013 5:04 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


No excuse, niki. It's just reality.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

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Wednesday, January 4, 2017 2:28 PM

JAYNEZTOWN



LA times runs a shit story?
http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-rohingya-myanmar-armed-group-2
0170104-story.html

They've been persecuted by the government for years. Now, some of Myanmar's Rohingya are taking up arms


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Originally posted by Niki2:
And what this monk is doing is directly opposed to everything Buddhism is about, which is why he horrifies me.




takiyya, kitman, al-tawriya, and muruna.

http://www.skeptical-science.com/religion/real-crises-burma/

As proof, photos were available … slight flaw, the claims being made were fake. An examination of the photos soon revealed them to be fake, and to have been images of events that took place in different places and different times, all totally unrelated to anything going on in Burma.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-32979147


The fake pictures of the Rohingya crisis

http://swarajyamag.com/insta/m-s-dhoni-steps-down-as-captain-of-indias
-odi-t20-teams


Rohingya Crisis: Myanmar Says Fake News And Photos Created A ‘Misunderstanding’

http://www.dw.com/en/fake-rohingya-photos-incite-religious-violence/a-
18513390


Fake Rohingya photos incite religious violence

Heartbreaking pictures of Rohingya migrants have made international headlines in recent weeks. But some of the photos now making the social media rounds aren't exactly what they seem. DW's social media team tells you why

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Tuesday, November 29, 2022 8:06 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


ancient religious and cultural symbol, across Hindu and Buddhist faiths, predominantly in various Eurasian, as well as some African and North American Native cultures

...BUT IT MUST MEAN HITLER?

oh my goodness, what chutzpah!!!

Why are you people using thousand year old symbols, are you contra-Semitism are you hollocausting everyone?


Asian faiths try to save swastika symbol corrupted by Hitler
https://apnews.com/article/religion-germany-race-and-ethnicity-europe-
2c28b5892381cd4148dfde5bc4fbb004


There also seems to be some bullshit story floating around their AirForces are bombing Pop concerts.

maybe I am wrong and they did bomb

but I seen no signs of a bomb blast from the skies and simply what looked like flood or storm damage in some far of village, spun by the propaganda merchants.

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