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Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

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Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:42 AM

NIKI2

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A random act of violence has left a promising 22-year-old college baseball player dead, a family devastated and two countries half a world apart rattled.

Christopher Lane, who's from Australia, was gunned down in Duncan, Oklahoma, while he was out jogging last week. The motive, police say? Three teens who had nothing better to do.

"They witnessed a young man run by on the street. Chose him as the target," Police Chief Danny Ford told CNN affiliate KSWO.

When police eventually arrested the three teens -- ages 15, 16 and 17 -- one of them offered up a motive that made clear that Lane, who attended East Central University on a baseball scholarship, was chosen at random.

"He said the motive was, 'We were going to kill somebody,'" Ford told Australian radio station 3AW.

"They decided all three of them were going to kill somebody."

Police say the teens shot Lane in the back in the town of about 24,000 and sped away in their car.

"There were some people that saw him stagger across the road, go to a kneeling position and collapse on the side of the road," Ford told KSWO.

Attempts to revive Lane failed.

Police caught the teens a few hours after the shooting. Thanks to security cameras from local businesses, police saw their car speeding down the street.

Nearly 10,000 miles away in Australia, Lane's family struggled to cope with the news.

"He's left his mark as we know, and you know there's not going to be any good come out of this, because it was just so senseless," Christopher's father, Peter Lane, said. "It's happened. It's wrong, and we're just trying and deal with it the best we can." http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/20/justice/australia-student-killed-oklahom
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Probably best these days to stay away from America, as well as Syria, Libya, Egypt and other such places where guns are readily available and violence is prevalent.

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Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:28 AM

BYTEMITE


I think the problem is that those kids might be psychopaths.

I predict about an 80% probability. Maybe 85%. No more than 90 though.

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Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:43 AM

AURAPTOR

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When Johnny Cash sang of shootin' a man in Reno, just to see watch him die, it wasn't meant to be viewed as something to emulate, or strive for. Quite the opposite.

Good grief.




Sympathies for the friends and family of the victim.

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Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:02 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


getting a lot of news space here, obviously

very sad

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Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:25 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I think the problem is that those kids might be psychopaths.

I predict about an 80% probability. Maybe 85%. No more than 90 though.




Do Psychopaths generally congregate in groups? Or is that just an American thing too?

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Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:09 PM

BYTEMITE


This grouping is likely the result of a sense of strength in numbers. And a shared fascination with the sadistic and morbid.

It happens everywhere.

Not all psychopaths are self-deterministic loners. Some enjoy bullying in groups, generally because alone they feel weak, vulnerable, and cowardly. They HATE that. Victims have less capacity to fight back against a group, and in this case the violence was performed out of boredom as a drive-by. All the rush of power, without the risk to the self.

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Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:08 PM

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Labeling someone a psychopath is something with which I strongly disagree. Nobody here has the expertise to do that. I would have suggested sociopath, but that's just as wrong; both terms come from a visceral reaction, not any facts. Society helps mold its children, so looking to their lives, families, etc., would have more value, in my opinion. Mental illness is bandied about far too casually with sometimes horrific results. It's too easy to see them as "others", divorce ourselves from their actions, by labeling them.

This was horrific; my impulse would be to try them as adults, too, but I don't begin to know enough about the people in question to feel I have the right to say that.

And yes, it's all over the news here, too. It's sickening, period.


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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:26 AM

AURAPTOR

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Let's see, which one looks like he could have been Obama's son...



Or possibly...

http://content4.video.news.com.au/NDM_CP_-_Sky_News/14/465/promo201306
392.jpeg



The alleged trigger man...




I wonder which one could have been Obama...

Seriously... will Obama wade into this discussion, and talk about the need to end the violence ? Where are Jesse and Al ? Do any rappers want to weigh in and give their 2 cents worth on how this guy really WAS stalked down and shot in the back ?


Will East Central University caps be worn by elected officials on the floor of the House ?




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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:57 AM

AURAPTOR

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The federal welfare state is what has been destroying the family for 5 decades.

It's no wonder kids are growing up, so bored they feel the need to kill someone, just for a break in the monotony.

The sickness isn't w/ the guns. It's with the people.



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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:59 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Labeling someone a psychopath is something with which I strongly disagree. Nobody here has the expertise to do that. I would have suggested sociopath, but that's just as wrong; both terms come from a visceral reaction, not any facts. Society helps mold its children, so looking to their lives, families, etc., would have more value, in my opinion. Mental illness is bandied about far too casually with sometimes horrific results. It's too easy to see them as "others", divorce ourselves from their actions, by labeling them.

This was horrific; my impulse would be to try them as adults, too, but I don't begin to know enough about the people in question to feel I have the right to say that.

And yes, it's all over the news here, too. It's sickening, period.




Um, *I'M* a psychopath. And I have to call it like I sees it.

Killing someone out of BOREDOM might be very dumb, which is seconded by the relative ease in which they were caught, having done it in broad daylight. So, an argument can be made for extreme stupidity, but their actions also demonstrate an obvious lack of empathy.

Lack of empathy = psychopath. Not an "other" or something scary or terrifying. Just what they are.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:06 AM

BYTEMITE


Also, I kinda just ignore now whenever AURaptor brings up Muslims or race. Like PN and Jews. I really give no cares at all.

Look, the jar is empty of cares. There is only jelly beans.




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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:39 AM

AURAPTOR

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Yeah , ignore it, just like the American press. If the victim is white, and their photo is shown, and then the perps are merely described as " bored teens ", with no photos, we know why.

Doesn't fit the narrative.

Funny, the Auzzie press had no problems in posting pics of the " bored teens" .



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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:00 AM

BYTEMITE


You again do not address any reason why I should care what their race was. Not any more than it matters whatever George Zimmerman is - and as a side note, I kinda think maybe people about to be charged with a crime shouldn't get their pictures flashed around the news.

This case is clear cut, and I hope they go to prison.

But maybe in George Zimmerman's case not showing his appearance would've saved him a lot of hassle and death threats after the fact.

In any case, I suspect the lack of pictures is a result of them being UNDERAGED and charged with crimes. I assure you that I see plenty of adult black males accused of crime shown on the news.

Australia sometimes has it's own problems which I'm not about to comment on or go into, as I can't be sure that's where this is coming from. I'm waiting until Magons has a say in.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:09 AM

AURAPTOR

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They're being charged as adults , I've heard.

And it matters in light of the hysterical levels race was played up in the Zimmerman case.

It SHOULDN'T have been an issue, but it was sure as hell made one.


That is the point.

Not that hard to see.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:37 AM

BYTEMITE


Being charged as adults doesn't mean they aren't underaged.

I was not overly fond of race being played up in the Zimmerman case either. But I fail to see how making it about race NOW helps the issue.

Especially since, you know - HE WASN'T CONVICTED.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:13 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quick review...

Gabby Gifford's shooter was said to have been influenced by " target sights " on Sarah Palin's FB page - LIE

Aurora CO shooter was repotred being a T.E .A. Party group member - LIE

George Zimmerman, a WHITE Hispanic, was said to have stalked & shot down an unarmed black child in cold blood - LIE.

Here, just 3 " bored teens " .

Really?

Check out their FB & twitter records.





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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:30 AM

NIKI2

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Hee, hee, hee; excellent, G!

The comparison of the two situations is a total fallacy:

--Three young people did something horrific which is against the law and killed an innocent person, for which they will be held accountable and no doubt pay a very heavy price.

--One adult, in a position of authority, went after and killed an innocent person and the law held him completely without responsibility.

The only way to equate the two is if they agree Zimmerman did something wrong, which defeats their purpose. There is no comparison, and race is virtually irrelevant in both cases, tho' it's already obvious there are lots of people out there screaming "See? Zimmerman was right!" It's a convenient, but totally fallacious, talking point, nothing more. It's not even a debatable point, given the two different incidents.

The only racial aspect to either is that I don't think Zimmerman would have gone after Martin if he'd seen clearly that Martin was Caucasian, and I'm sure these young people wouldn't have picked out a Black target. Beyond that, the situations are completely different.


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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


G - none of the 3 in OK legally could own a gun. You'll punish law abiding citizens & ignore the 2nd amendment to what end? More criminals having guns.

And I take you purposefully ignored my point on how the news media in the US are biased.

Well done.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:46 AM

AURAPTOR

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Trayvon was NOT innocent, Niki . Your view on this is a total fallacy !

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:57 AM

BYTEMITE


Black on black crime is pretty common actually.

As for the bias, ONCE AGAIN, I don't see how Gabby Giffords shooter or Colorado shooting OR THIS have anything to do with race.

Zimmerman does but it shouldn't have.

Why are you still so pissed off about that, anyway?

I mean do you think that pointing out that these teenagers in Oklahoma are black will somehow prove that a black teenager in Florida was also a violent offender? When that question doesn't matter anymore because the teenager is dead and Zimmerman walked? What is even the relevance?

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:59 AM

NIKI2

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Obviously from this day forward Rap will insist Trayvon attacked Zimmerman. The FACT is that there is no proof either way, and never will be. Rap's entitled to his opinion, but it is only an opinion. The only FACTS we have are that Martin was going home from the store, bothering nobody, and Zimmerman was told not to follow him. Beyond hearsay, the only EVIDENCE we have are some bruises on Zimmerman and a bullet hole in Martin. I know everyone knows this, but it's worth reminding us, because I have no doubt Rap will continue to claim what Zimmerman SAID constitutes "fact" for the rest of his days.

It could be viewed as defensiveness, recognition of a truth they don't like, or obsession, that Rap and those like him can't give up on this.


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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:24 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Black on black crime is pretty common actually.

As for the bias, ONCE AGAIN, I don't see how Gabby Giffords shooter or Colorado shooting OR THIS have anything to do with race.



It doesn't. Nor am I suggesting any such thing. Only showing the sheer hypocrisy in how the US news reports certain stories.

Quote:


Zimmerman does but it shouldn't have.



Everyone associated w/ that case, from both sides, said race wasn't the issue, but we're still seeing hoodies and comments about black children being shot in the streets, and how it's " ok " .

Quote:



Why are you still so pissed off about that, anyway?




Because it's STILL being used by the race hustlers as a rallying cry. Hell, even Oprah mentioned it just last week, to pimp her new movie, The Butler.

Quote:



I mean do you think that pointing out that these teenagers in Oklahoma are black will somehow prove that a black teenager in Florida was also a violent offender? When that question doesn't matter anymore because the teenager is dead and Zimmerman walked? What is even the relevance?




Well, let's see. Both Trayvon and the OK murderers glorified guns, rap music, and violence. I could do a side by side comparison of the 'selfies', if you really want to go there. But why bother. If you've made up your mind, then there's no point in me trying.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:29 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

Obviously from this day forward Rap will insist Trayvon attacked Zimmerman.



He did.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:34 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Something tells me Rappy ain't actually seen mugshots of the suspects here if he's making it a race issue...

Just sayin.

-F

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:35 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


This could be about race if the teenagers who shot Chris Lane did so because he was white, but there are no suggestions of that, only that they were bored and had guns.

So there is really nothing to compare this to the Zimmerman case, except Rap clutching at straws.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:48 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
This could be about race if the teenagers who shot Chris Lane did so because he was white, but there are no suggestions of that, only that they were bored and had guns.

So there is really nothing to compare this to the Zimmerman case, except Rap clutching at straws.



Nothing to compare this to the Zimmerman case? Did Zimmy shoot the gangsta wanna be "because" he was black?

Don't you libs worry, the MSM is doing everything they can to forget this, if there's one thing they know how to do is bury a storys true point. Remember the northern Cal, black ex-cop who shot 5 cops and was in love with Chris Mathews? That's been forgotten but they won't shut the fuck up about Martin.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:00 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Something tells me Rappy ain't actually seen mugshots of the suspects here if he's making it a race issue...

Just sayin.

-F



Ain't actually?

Well, actually, I have posted pics of them here, in this thread. Not their mug shots, but that's neither here nor there. And while most Americans hadn't gotten a peek at these fine young thugs, there's no such timidness in Australia's press.

Try following along in the thread, Wilbur.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:11 PM

AURAPTOR

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http://video.news.com.au/2401905029/Accused-teen-killer-on-Vine

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:19 PM

BYTEMITE


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Well, let's see. Both Trayvon and the OK murderers glorified guns, rap music, and violence. I could do a side by side comparison of the 'selfies', if you really want to go there. But why bother. If you've made up your mind, then there's no point in me trying.



Hmm

Quote:

When that question doesn't matter anymore because the teenager is dead and Zimmerman walked?


It appears we have finally reached a point where dead horses and dead black people have become interchangeable in terms of hammering an issue ad nauseum.

I offer some jelly beans.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:27 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
This could be about race if the teenagers who shot Chris Lane did so because he was white, but there are no suggestions of that, only that they were bored and had guns.




It think the culture of the killers is relevant, at the very least. Whether it's black on black crime, in Chicago, or if it's black on white crime, from a beating on a school bus, to the rape /torture/ murder of a young couple in Tennessee / or the cowardly shooting of a baseball player, in the back, in Oklahoma.

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So there is really nothing to compare this to the Zimmerman case, except Rap clutching at straws.




Jesse and Al raised hell w/ the Zimmerman case, yet we hear crickets on this matter.

President Obama interjected himself into one local issue, yet is completely silent on another.

You know what? You're right ! No similarities, what so ever!

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:01 PM

NIKI2

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Quote:

It appears we have finally reached a point where dead horses and dead black people have become interchangeable in terms of hammering an issue ad nauseum.


Yes, Byte; but one might add global warming, Muslims and a whole bunch of other things where Rap's concerned when it comes to hammering an issue ad nauseum.

Wait a minute...one of those kids is white...I don't suppose that means anything to Rap...looks like he was "just the driver", so I'm sure that lets him off the hook, race-wise...

Trying to use this horrific incident to make some kind of point is just, well, pointless. But hey, a guy's gotta have his priorities I guess...


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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:07 PM

AURAPTOR

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I believe, Niki, that the 'white' kid is not unlike President Obama. White mom, 'other' father. Not sure which.

But go ahead and ignore the relevant point of who actually shot Chris Lane.

Guns, Cash & Gang Signs: 15 Pics of Chris Lane’s Suspected Killers

http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/08/chris-lane-murder-chancey-luna-photo
s-pics/7
/



( yes, Niki, I know... just more of the same, huh ? )

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:16 PM

NIKI2

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Yup, that's what I've done, "ignored" the whole thing...yup.


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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:22 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:





Glad you're so giddy over the death of the Aussie, Niki. But the fact remains, you'll have spent far more time and message board space railing against George Zimmerman defending himself than what these 3 punks did to an actual unarmed, innocent white guy.

But it's not just you. The PC disease has infected this whole damn country, to the extent that we ignore reality and embrace fantasy.

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Wednesday, August 21, 2013 7:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I believe one of these kids is Hispanic. Don't let the hair, lips and skin color fool you.



I once dated a Puerto Rican who >>> I <<< thought, anyway, looked black. Did I get an earful. Apparently someone like me unaccustomed to gauging shades of brown from that area of the world just doesn't see the rich variety that exists. (This is all somewhat tongue in cheek. I had less problem thinking he was black than he did.)

In any case, it looks like we have a variety pack. Just goes to show criminally stupid and cruel knows no race - even whites can be that.

Which reminds me - where's little rappy nowadays?


Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is

whore
Quote:

As evidence of "rape mentality"...
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
Originally posted by AURaptor:
The term applies.



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Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:16 AM

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The two " bored teens " , charged w/ the murder -



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Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:03 AM

NIKI2

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Does anyone actually KNOW what race the three kids are? Everything I see from the right says "three black teens". Rap says the "white" one is only "half white", "like Obama". That, of course, makes him "black". You say one may be Hispanic, or maybe "half Hispanic". Doesn't that show just how insane this whole thing is to some?

My point is, we've got plenty of people of all "colors" killing others of all "colors"...as long as that's what it is, we're not focusing on the real problems that go into people killing one another, it seems to me. And for too many of us, it seems to be the WHOLE focus...


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Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

The federal welfare state is what has been destroying the family for 5 decades.

It's no wonder kids are growing up, so bored they feel the need to kill someone, just for a break in the monotony.

The sickness isn't w/ the guns. It's with the people.

I'm sure the killing of strangers by strangers predates the federal welfare state. Check the Bible for examples. Or check literature. A favorite of mine is: "She would have been a good woman if it had been somebody there to shoot her every minute of her life." That's spoken by the killer in A Good Man Is Hard to Find by Flannery O'Connor (1953). I don't think you should assume that FDR and his welfare system established during the Great Depression was responsible for the murders in the story, but go right ahead believing that before FDR there were no random killings in the USA. As in most of your life, nobody will stop you but yourself until you kill somebody.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:37 AM

AURAPTOR

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And yet, a segment of society kills far more often all others.

Why is that ?

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:46 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Frem, just say this headline over on CNN.com

Don’t Ignore Race in Christopher Lane’s Murder

http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christo
pher-lanes-murder/?hpt=hp_t5


It does seem like we were supposed to ignore it in the Zimmerman/Martin case, but keep it front and center here.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 5:12 AM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
And yet, a segment of society kills far more often all others.

Why is that ?

I understand you perfectly. The only way to keep society safe is to take the next logic step: exterminating the segment before they can kill again, which would make you a Dalek from Doctor Who.
http://gerryswanson.deviantart.com/art/Nerdy-Dalek-253086797



The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
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Thursday, August 22, 2013 5:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
And yet, a segment of society kills far more often all others.

Why is that ?




Because a significant majority of that population is underprivileged due to historical whatsits, and poverty breeds crime.

As does a lack of education, which also applies to this and another of your favourite issues, if you want to bring up certain parts of the Muslim world, which I think you do.

What I don't understand is your driving need to constantly highlight this issue. At least with Wulf he grew up in some horrible conditions in the innercity and I can get why he focuses on this so much.

Unless you have an alternative theory about the source of this violence you would like to add? I'll go bake some popcorn in that case.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:11 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I think the problem is that those kids might be psychopaths.

I predict about an 80% probability. Maybe 85%. No more than 90 though.




Do Psychopaths generally congregate in groups?



They are ghetto punks, many, many not just in the USA but all over the world


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Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:19 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Most excellent Byte, I commend your articulate analysis. Obviously nothing is that simple and there are many factors at work, but got the major crux of it.

However, I fear it will go over some heads, and you'll only get any satisfaction from the response to your logical statement if you DO butter that popcorn and expect to consider what you get in response "entertainment".


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Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:45 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

The two " bored teens " , charged w/ the murder -



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[/quote

I'mma confused... There were 3 teens charged. How come you keep focusing on these 2?

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Because they are the most obviously Black. Besides, the "half white" kid was only the driver...so being only half black, that's okay...I guess...?

Oh, wait a minute, only one of them pulled the trigger, so the other Black kid just sat in the car. Doesn't that make the "half black" kid more culpable...but then he's only half black...soooo...but "half black" is still Black...

Oh, shit, I give up. Who can follow the contortions?


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Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:56 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:





Glad you're so giddy over the death of the Aussie, Niki.



Reading skills so low, he can't tell the difference between laughing at the crime (which anyone with common sense knows isn't the case) and laughing at his dumb-ass comment (which was clearly quoted).

Another day in rappyland, the dumbest place on Earth!




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:53 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Because they are the most obviously Black. Besides, the "half white" kid was only the driver...so being only half black, that's okay...I guess...?

Oh, wait a minute, only one of them pulled the trigger, so the other Black kid just sat in the car. Doesn't that make the "half black" kid more culpable...but then he's only half black...soooo...but "half black" is still Black...

Oh, shit, I give up. Who can follow the contortions?



Oy, like I said, Niki, I'mma confused. Too complicated to follow. I'm just a baby gosling, feel like somebody's been juggling me.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:15 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Frem, just say this headline over on CNN.com

Don’t Ignore Race in Christopher Lane’s Murder

http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christo
pher-lanes-murder/?hpt=hp_t5


It does seem like we were supposed to ignore it in the Zimmerman/Martin case, but keep it front and center here.



You have it exactly 180 degress backwards.

Race was MAIN issue w/ Zimmerman, and the 'White Hispanic' label, from the MSM. Here, it gets swept under the rug, as 'bored teens ' is used to describe the murdering dirt bags.

How you don't see the double standard, staring at you right in the face, is baffling.

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Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:16 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

I'mma confused... There were 3 teens charged. How come you keep focusing on these 2?



Because only 2 ( those pictured ) were actually CHARGED w/ the murder, the 3rd was charged as an accessory to the crime.

Still confused?

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