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The Cost of Crisis-Driven Fiscal Policy: $700 Billion In 3 Years

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Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:35 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Here's the reality of what those who call themselves "fiscal conservatives" have actually cost us:
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Here's an eye-catching claim: A new report from Macroeconomic Advisers argues that Congress's budget battles, debt-ceiling stand-offs, and spending cuts have cost the U.S. economy nearly 3 percent of GDP since 2010.

That's roughly $700 billion in lost economic activity and more than two million lost jobs— all thanks to Congress. And that's before we even factor in the losses caused by the recent federal government shutdown.

But is this true? Are lawmakers really doing that much damage to the U.S. economy? A claim like this needs unpacking, as there's ample reason for skepticism. So let's break this report down piece by piece. There are two big arguments here:

1) Spending cuts have taken a bite out of economic growth. First, the report estimates that spending cuts enacted by Congress since 2010 have shaved 0.7 percentage points off annual U.S. economic growth over the past three years:


In the chart above, the dashed red line is an estimate of what U.S. growth would have been if discretionary spending had stayed constant as a share of GDP since 2010.

But spending didn't stay constant. Various stimulus programs began winding down. And then, in August of 2011, Congress enacted the Budget Control Act, which set hard caps on discretionary spending and set things in motion for the sequestration budget cuts of 2012. All told, discretionary spending shrunk from 9.4 percent of GDP in 2010 to 7.3 percent today.

The report argues that this sort of fiscal drag is harmful when the U.S. economy is still far below full employment. As a result, the spending slowdown cut annual GDP growth by 0.7 percentage points and cost "the equivalent of 1.2 million lost jobs."

(Remember, that's a drop in yearly GDP growth, so the losses compound over time.)

2) Increased "policy uncertainty" due to congressional showdowns has also hurt growth. But the report isn't done yet. They also estimate that all the turmoil and uncertainty due to Congress's fights over the debt ceiling and the "fiscal cliff" has put a smaller dent in growth. Here's their second chart:



The report uses the Economic Policy Uncertainty Index constructed by Stanford and University of Chicago economists and argue that it correlates with slower growth:
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Although uncertainty might directly discourage households from spending and businesses from hiring and investing, we’ve found little evidence of such a direct link.

Fiscal policy uncertainty is, however, inversely correlated with stock prices and positively correlated with private 'credit spreads.' Hence, by undermining wealth and raising private borrowing costs, fiscal policy uncertainty can indirectly undermine household spending as well as business hiring and investment.



The implication is that growth would be higher without all this brinkmanship. The increased policy uncertainty, the report argues, "lowered GDP growth by 0.3 percentage points per year, and raised the unemployment rate in 2013 by 0.6 percentage points, equivalent to 900,000 lost jobs."

When you add these two effects up — and account for compounding growth, as Paul Krugman does — then the report essentially implies that Congress's budget battles have cost the United States roughly 3 percent of GDP, or around $700 billion of wasted economic potential and more than 2 million lost jobs since 2011.

It's entirely plausible that Congress has throttled the U.S. recovery, either by cutting back on spending prematurely or increasing the amount of uncertainty in the economy — or both!

Note: The numbers above don't include the cost of the shutdown, which S&P recently estimated sapped another $24 billion from the economy this quarter (although other economists have suggested that some of that activity may get made up once the government reopens). http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/16/study-congr
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Charts and original analysis at http://www.macroadvisers.com/2013/10/the-cost-of-crisis-driven-fiscal-
policy/#sthash.v7Kh7T4e.dpuf

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Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:18 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...





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Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:21 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...




(Note the date: Nothing's changed)


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Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:44 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Thanks Obama!


Worst human being ever.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:02 PM

BYTEMITE


Most people would probably say Hitler, but really, fuck Hitler, he wasn't some special kind of new evil that sets the standard of what we measure evil against.

I see your Obama and raise you the cast of Jersey Shore.

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Friday, October 18, 2013 2:08 PM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Thanks Obama!



Right, because if only he'd been a good "boy" and done what the LOSERS told him, they wouldn't have had to throw their pathetic little tantrum, right?

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Worst human being ever.




Yet still better than you.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Saturday, October 19, 2013 7:43 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Thanks Obama!



Right, because if only he'd been a good "boy" and done what the LOSERS told him, they wouldn't have had to throw their pathetic little tantrum, right?




If you call the THE AMERICAN PEOPLE "losers", then yes, you'd have nailed Obama perfectly, as that's how he sees this nation. He absolutely hates it, and would risk throwing us into default just to get this way.

And what is his 'way' ? A colossal failure of a HC bill which has programmers laughing at the utter amateurish web site , which has used out dated equipment and systems. It's so bad, that users who visit the web site even will have computer code show up on their screens, because this piece of go-se wasn't ever TESTED before it went live.

Look for many more 'tantrums', before this idiot boy President gets the messge.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, October 19, 2013 8:45 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Thanks Obama!

Worst human being ever.



What has he done that has impacted you specifically in a negative way?



Raised my taxes, jacked up healthcare for all, added trillions of dollars on my country's debt, ALL needlessly so. Promoted socialism, divided Americans more than at any time since the 1860's... yeah. He sucks pretty hard.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:11 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


G, you're asking a question as if Rap were a real, thinking person. He's not...he's a parrot and a liar. The fact that Reagan TRIPLED the national debt, Bush raised taxes, Obama CUT taxes (the only "tax" I know of IS the ACA, which the Supreme Court decided was a tax and which would ONLY affect Rap if he decides not to buy health insurance--and which is unenforceable anyway), Obama hasn't "promoted" socialism (Rap doesn't even know that that means, he's just repeating what he's told) and the only reason this HALF African-American "divided" this county is because the mere fact of his being elected brought out the latent racism in this country and gave the right wing WONDERFUL fodder to jack up hatred of him.

He didn't lie and manipulate us into a needless war, get thousands of Americans killed by doing so (he got us OUT of that one); he didn't institute torture policies that made the rest of the world hate us even more, and he didn't cost us BILLIONS by obstructionism, lower our credit or shut down our government. But Rap "knows" to hate him, so he'll regurgitate anything he's told and never think twice about whether it makes any sense whatsoever or not.




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