Definition of Deluded? by Wishimay

America loves a winner!

She says she's not a little girl anymore, but she wants to educate children.

O.o

So, the former Disney kid now wants to teach other kids how to slut it up, but don't get confused...

" I want this to be a pretty high-end tour. I want it to be like good art. ", she says.

I guess if by 'high end' she means bending over and raising her back side into the crotch of some male dancer, then yeah, she'll teach the kiddies all manner of " art ".

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, February 23, 2014 2:40 PM

It's not even worth debating or trying to find something rational about it for me. The girl makes me... sick. She's not the first to try pulling this "It's ART" crap, but she definitely takes it to a whole new whorish level.

You know the difference between vulgarity and art? Vulgarity is where they start paying attention.

When I was nine I wanted to be Amish. Had little Amish dolls and the lot. Really that should have given me a clue that something just isn't RIGHT...here... I don't wanna be Amish anymore, but gawd, I don't want any part of THAT either. I just can't wait till she gets a psycho stalker or twelve that makes her life hell, because it's inevitable and totally what she deserves...

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Sunday, February 23, 2014 3:55 PM

AGENTROUKA

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
I just can't wait till she gets a psycho stalker or twelve that makes her life hell, because it's inevitable and totally what she deserves...

Oh come on.

It's one thing to disapprove of what she does, another to wish something truly horrible on a 21-year-old woman who's going down the same route of public self-destruction as many other ex-child stars before her.

Stalking or worse is NOT what she "deserves".

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Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:31 PM

FREMDFIRMA

You're overthinking it.
She's a troll - giving in to any of em, these so-called-celebrities I could literally not care LESS about, just plays right into what they want.

And while our so-called-media is happy, even desperate, to give it to them as a bread and circuses (minus the BREAD, which is pissin people off quite seriously) distraction from issues fast becoming all but unignorable, paying any mind to it is a fools bargain.

You give them your attention, you give em power over you.
Why do that, really ?
Do they deserve it ?
What issues are slipping right past you while you do ?

Hell, that's why I pitched my TV out the window way back when, and outside of Firefly haven't watched the stupidbox since, cause they whipped up this while media circus bullshit (OJ Simpson, as I recall) as a distraction from all the bullshit Clinton and his cohorts were pulling at the time, and because people were stupid enough to fall for it, with all their attention in the wrong direction, they got away with it.

So ask yourself what else is sneaking past you, every time you play into the hands of these petty little trolls and their mainstream media enablers.

-Frem

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Sunday, February 23, 2014 5:04 PM

America loves a winner!

Bless her heart. Daddy was a 1 hit wonder in the 90's. That taste of fame lead her chasing on after that bug, as his legacy. Tragic part is, she thinks fame and money could buy class and prominence. But hell, who can blame her ? The $ , from her point of view, keeps coming in ( from somewhere ) and I guess that's all that matters.

To be honest, I thought, early on, she had a chance to actually be the legit star her dad never was.

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, it seems.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:03 PM

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:

Stalking or worse is NOT what she "deserves".

Is in my world. In my world Karma would be more than just a philosophical precept...

Then maybe this stream of ignorant hoes would CEASE and we can move forward. Sometimes destruction is necessary to move forward. Just ask the revolutionaries over there in da Ukraine. Violence CAN be the answer... She needs to be stalked sooo much that she has to change her face and disappear. The damage she is doing to womankind is immeasurable, truly. Can you not see it really? The little butterfly effects, they add up...

BTW, Frem. I give her no power, but I do lament the power she holds over others...I never allowed my kid to buy into her crap when she was working for Disney, either. I saw that train wreck coming from 100 miles away.

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Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:15 PM

OONJERAH

Miley Cyrus – next teen victim of the “blame and shame” game.
May 6th, 2008 by Danni Miller
http://enlighteneducation.edublogs.org/2008/05/06/miley-cyrus-and-the-
cyber-blame-and-shame-game/

I don't like Miley. I am tired of seeing her tongue, her crotch,
her butt.

Butt, I don't hold her responsible. Not At All!
If any of you in here were functioning Adults before the age
of 29, I applaud you. I wasn't.
Brain-washing is a very powerful tool; many parents rely on it.
She will be damn "lucky" if she ever emerges from this fog.

ETA: What does Billy Ray Cyrus deserve?

====================== :>
Judge not, that ye be not judged. Matthew 3:1

And there in the mirror, I beheld the beam in mine own eye.

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Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:32 PM

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:
Originally posted by AgentRouka:

Stalking or worse is NOT what she "deserves".

Is in my world. In my world Karma would be more than just a philosophical precept...

Rebecca Schaeffer would likely disagree.

( 1967-1989 )

And as for Billy Ray ? He's the schmuck who actually ENCOURAGED his daughter to expose herself, apparently as much as possible. Anything to keep the family name in the lime light.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:36 PM

It wasn't JUST him, they have several pictures of Mommy dearest looking on with approval

P.S. There's a HUGE difference between being a model and doing what she does...

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Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:00 PM

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
It wasn't JUST him, they have several pictures of Mommy dearest looking on with approval

P.S. There's a HUGE difference between being a model and doing what she does...

I don't recall mommy dearest having any sort of a career, like daddy. So yeah, she may have been right there, at his side, as a good wife should. Maybe she's like Lindsay's mom, and is Miley's 'bff', or what ever.

But isn't it noteworthy to see how quickly her career went sideways after that risque' cover photo shoot ? It's like a snapshot of her innocence being ripped away from her, for all to see.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, February 23, 2014 10:07 PM

ELVISCHRIST

If you're worried about your kids looking up to Miley as a role model, you're a terrible parent, and you've already done something wrong.

She is a punchline. She's the only one who doesn't get that.

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Sunday, February 23, 2014 10:58 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:

She is a punchline. She's the only one who doesn't get that.

And when she eventually does, we'll be reading about her 'celebrity overdose'.
Hopefully, she'll pull out of this nosedive. It's possible.

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Monday, February 24, 2014 12:27 AM

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

She is a punchline. She's the only one who doesn't get that.
And when she eventually does, we'll be reading about her 'celebrity overdose'.
Hopefully, she'll pull out of this nosedive. It's possible.

When has it ever happened ? When has a child star who hit that age when they become completely unwound ever brought out of a nose dive before burrowing into terra firma ?

Todd Bridges ? Or maybe Drew Barrymore is a better example.

Lindsay Lohan is still alive, so I guess she's defying the odds.

I think Miley's crazy train is just gettin' started down the tracks. Hope I'm wrong though.

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Monday, February 24, 2014 6:45 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Meh, there's worse to worry about in this world than Miley Cyrus.

The twerking I dont mind, it's the tongue that kind of freaks me out. The tongue and the bobbly hair.

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Monday, February 24, 2014 10:25 AM

BYTEMITE

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Monday, February 24, 2014 11:00 AM

STORYMARK

She's been sexing up her act for a year now. Anyone who takes their kid and is surprised is an idiot anyway.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, February 24, 2014 3:20 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Mylie Cyrus!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2565737/Soft-porn-Im-arti
st-whos-educating-children-insists-Miley-complaints-parents.html

PREFACE: I added this after going over my post before I sent it. Honestly, what I'm posting here is about as "Candid Camera" as it gets, and while I'd never say some of these things with people I care about in person, I actually do care about the RWED as part of my life in some likely unhealthy way (as we probably all do to some degree and some fashion).

A good woman named Byte told me if I'm just going to be an asshole all the time that I should at least remain honest (I'm paraphrasing here...). I know she was right when she said it, and maybe in my semi-inebriated state I agree with her right now. I hope that anyone who reads doesn't rip my heart out for it. I can't imagine anyone reading it would believe I would make any of this up.

Now that that's out of the way. Here it is. My opinion on this topic. It bounces from sweet to eccentric to possibly strange, to uber-strange depending on your own personal sensibilities.

Fair warning. If you read beyond this point or allow any of your kin to do so, it is done without any warranty, disclaimer or any other general falsivities.

I gotta pull teeth to get a local politician to vote the way I would like. I don't have the time, will or energy to change your mind.

I just want to tell the truth. I want everyone to just tell the truth. If everyone laid out their cards and we could make negotiations with all of our cards in plain view to everyone, we could find a way to make all of this work. As long as the people holding all of the cards never show them, the only "race" we are in as a "team" is the race off a cliff into the vortex of Nothing.

Nobody in (what might have been) year A.D. 2,437,932 would even know that any single one of us had ever existed. By that time, even Chernobyl would have been buried in a few feet of space-soot, the planet would be a few kilometers wider in diameter, and whatever dip-shit race of dip-shits will be talking about some dip-shit reality show or how they're divorcing their dip-shit husband, or how their dip-shit kid they kicked out robbed their house last night...... I just hope that they're as sexy as us. Even Sexier! I'd hate to know that Mother Earth "mothered" an entire planet of 6.5 billion Uggos before the next extinction event! :)

SERIOUSLY. The rest of this post is definately not kid friendly and I wouldn't recommend you read it at work. I don't like making rules, so do whatever the f you want to do. I just wouldn't read this at work. :)

Here's the post before I checked it for spelling and sent it:

I don't really know what opinion to have about Miley, but I'm only thinking as a single 30-something that doesn't really have anything much to care about one way or another.

To most married people 5 years older than me around my age and up that have kids, I could see how even if they weren't religious that her insanity-to-popularity-quotient would make them lose a little sleep as their kids got older and their influence started to wane.

Miley Cyrus makes Madonna look like Lady Madonna. No fucking joke, right?

Wasn't it only like 7 years ago when people all but claimed Disney Illumines Lindsay Lohan was some filthy, insane, disease ridden slut? Maybe I'm wrong, but Lindsay's personal life seemd tame to what Miley can do on HD camera, sober even, in front of MILLIONS of people, and really not give one second of thought about it. And why shouldn't she, really? If the local news doesn't give her more press when she says something else mind-breakingly uncouth (which they Do), she'd get two million hits on YouTube about it by Thursday anyway, right?

If it weren't for my niece, I would throw all my chips in and say "Have a fucking blast Miley. Burn this entire f-ing planet to the ground and give it back to the cockroaches!". That's what I would have said three months ago before I saw all the potential in the angelic face of that beautiful baby girl.

My personal take right now is that I really just feel bad for Miley, more than anything else. I don't feel bad about the choices she's made in her life because at least they were hers and her IDIOT parents to make back when she was 9 years old and made more money that GOD, although by now I doubt she's able to make a single conscious thought on her own at this point.

I just feel bad because I'm almost sure that she's experimenting with a lot of pretty hard-core "things" that can control your universe if you let them get under your skin. What makes it worse is that she has the BEST PR DEPARTMENT IN THE UNIVERSE. She is, after all, unlike Lindsay, Disney's multi-billion-dollar-baby. I'm sure they've got a leash on her, but it's not exactly short.....

There's a chance she's swimming in a drug induced limbo right now, similar to what I chose to induce myself when I had no parents and I abandoned my brothers for nearly a decade when I went off the deep end....

I don't have to be a parent to know One Simple Truth. KFD for life! KFD...

Kids are Fucking Dumb.

There's no helping it, parents. Kids are Fucking Dumb and their going to continue to do dumb shit forever if you always cover for them. The best thing they ever did for me was kicking me out when I was 19, for real. I learned more about "life" in the next two years than I did in the previous 19.

Still thinking about the current topic, it takes many years to have any ability to Govern Thyself for most of us. Certainly more than 22 years old for a vast majority of us, and I know guys in their 50's lucky enough to still be alive that might never learn that lesson. For instance, even though I haven't done coke since my 27th birthday, I always make excuses for hanging out with some of the guys I work with that I actually consider pretty close to "friends" while at work. I'm not only old enough to be cognizant of some of the extremes that they indulge in during their free time, but I'm mature enough to know my own pitfalls and weaknesses to know that unless I completely sobered up for life that hanging out with them would NEVER be a good idea. I'd never do a line of coke sober, but if they got me even 1/4 a drunk as some of you here have seen me get, alone, within the safety of my own home..... well.... not only am I pretty sure I'd do enough coke to stay up 3 days straight, but I couldn't dismiss the possibility I might have stumbled away from that night with my first taste of Meth.....

There's nobody left to be my Mommy or Daddy there. I'm going on 35 years old. If I can't keep myself out of situations like that, then I deserve what's coming to me.

I don't think of my niece as "mine" yet. It's awesome having a niece, and she's adorable and I look forward to getting to know her when she can talk, but I don't think a male non-parent could ever really develop feelings for a child beyond feelings for somebody elses cool dog until their old enough to start asking questions and just being the absolute wonder that is a 4-5 year old human brain that's trying to "catch up" to what we "know" :)

I definitely think a bit differently about this stuff now though. Although there's no "real" emotional connection between us now, I fear the future she's going to grow into and the perils of peer-pressure and the media.

AIDS worked for a while to keep kids kind of afraid to participate in pleasurable debauchery with multiple partners or young group orgys for decades, but unless you live in South America or Africa today you pretty much don't have to worry about AIDS. Now their saying kids are having "rainbow parties" at an age 15 years younger than I'd first even heard the term.

I'm sure in 2014 we would have heard all about Miley's (theoretical) genital warts and (theoretical) Herpes if she didn't have the Disney Dream Team of lawyers ready to absolutely ruin anyone's life who ever dared to smear her. Ain't no cure for that yet, I'm afraid.....

I don't care that she's a whore. More power to her. Anyone who knows me moderately knows that money basically drives everything of me and Miley has no problem sitting back and watch the idiots pay her bills. On top of that, she turned like 20-something recently so, whatever, right? Sex is awesome. Being young and sexy is awesome. Being rich is awesome. I can only relate to two of those three, but the last one must be awesome too. It simply must be, right???!

The only thing in this equation that pisses me off is the media attention she's getting for it, only because of who she is and who she has been for the last decade to the kids who are now going to college, and especially the kids who were much younger and idolized her.

In the 90's, Miley would have been dead in two years. If our moms weren't doting maniacally over their kids it was only because they were at the KD Lang Concert. Remember.... uh... who? Until Britney I can't even recall a Disney type girl controlling the airwaves since Debbie Gibson.

[FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES FOR THE FUTURE BOOK REPORTS]:

I got my Celebrity News from friends who knew more about music because, unlike me, they had older brothers and sisters and cousins to influence them. I was the oldest in the entire family on both sides. Outside of school and Saturday Morning cartoons, my only influences were my divorced parents and my grandparents. Yeah.... Not the "coolest" role models in the world, but I surely could have done worse.

I know I've talked about it before here, but my first "sexual experience" was a decade before my REAL first sexual experience. It takes another baker's decade to be mature enough to reflect on the fact that very likely the Orgasm I made these young women feel was quite possibly the first time they ever felt one, while at that time I may have actually experience 500 of them. Without a doubt in my mind, the first girl I fell in love with and eventually had sex with nearly a year later was herself a firstie. A few years and "wholesome" girlfriends later, a d-head friend of mine called me "Virgin-killer" and I stomped that name out pretty quick.

My point being that I know I had sex with at least one virgin, and believe I have had sex with no less five three.

This isn't bragging. I haven't had sex in ages even though if I were myself in the 70's without the internet I'd be having sex pretty much every day with women my age or even some of the younger girls that flirt with me and I've been told by buds have a crush on me.

This is simple curiosity and trying to understand things about myself and more importantly others, and even more importantly than that..... figuring out women.

How could you expect a straight answer? Aside from her most core-beliefs, I've never been with a woman who could stop on a dime to change her mind completely about something and leave you wondering why you were helping her fight for whatever she doesn't believe in anymore.....

Sure, I was a virgin when I first had sex, but by that time I had no less than a decade of developing the Largest Sexual Organ which is the Brain. I don't remember the exact "grade", but my first orgasm came by my own actions when I was in about 3rd or 4th grade. Hand's Free Baby! I was so scared when it happened.... SERIOUSLY... I freaked the F out...... but nobody, especially in my family, talked about anything like that, so I went on thinking that I was possibly the only person I knew that ever felt that good about anything. (You might begin to see how in a sheltered and isolate world that an 8 year old might continue with these Shenenagins through childhood without knowing why).

It was nearly a month before I did anything that would feel that good again, but of course I went back to it, like any 8-year old junkie would. Honestly, I was never scared about it again after that until something "came out".

I didn't have to do much work with my wild imagination. As long as the woman was dominant and told me what to do and think, I was along for the ride.

How could any girl I ever dated as a teenager have ever compared to 10 years of sexual fantasies of what would probably be considered a genius mind today if circumstances were different? More importantly, how could this sweet and nieve young pregnant black girl at work who seemingly adores me ever compete with nearly 25 years of undoubtedly warped sexual experience in my mind now?

The more I talk about it Wish, publicly :), the more I start to think that maybe Miley isn't the problem at all. Maybe she's right. Maybe it's a good thing that she's doing, and not just for girls. If 90% of the parents are compacent to the news, the news can do whatever they want.

People OBEY the news. Miley is the news. Your kids will obey Miley.

If my parents weren't being so self-absorbed and separated and divorced for so many years, maybe my dad would have caught me and talked about sex to me after knocking me upside the head after being caught. He would have had plenty of oppourtunity to do it.

No Riddalin needed for this self-medicated genius.

That didn't happen though. My mom kicked my dad far to the curb, but took a ton of money to supply her 4 pack-a-day smoking and 1-new-Toyota-every-2-years payout. Nary a day went by after 4th grade started that I hadn't already had the sexual satisfaction before breakfast that most of my friends never experienced until they were 13 years old with Dad's Swimsuit Edition.

It's not that I didn't enjoy sex more than being alone. I'm alone now because by the time I started having sex and then realizing all the BS you have to put up with to keep getting sex just really ain't worth all the struggle. Between hypnosis and some other fun that can be had with somebody experienced, regular sex for me is just work because I approach it like work.

All I can say is that when the mood strikes me, my biggest sexual organ knows how to make a killer showing. My brain can take me away on fantasies so wild I wish I could live there.

That's my big hang up. How could I possibly put up with a Woman's bullshit (no offence) if the greatest thing they could offer me is a knock-off version of the only thing I could likely be considered an artisan at?

I guess that's an issue to post the women here directly.

For those of you married that haven't had sex in the last 30 days, half of your husbands are probably stroking to Miley's videos when they get a free minute.

To me, that seems like it's not an issue of mine at all.

I do agree that it's possibly a serious malady that only the women in the house could possibly remedy.

Beyond that, it's none of my business.

Words to live by, Brothers and Sisters.

Don't mistake me spilling the beans here to make me the most "Wacked" of the people you know. Chances are 1 in 5 are MUCH more sexually deranged than I am. Chances are 2 in 5 that even after only 5 years your spouse is cheating on you.

I'd give those odds, considering you're both still young and relatively beautiful that it's almost 100% a fetish you're not meeting if you're certain there isn't another "physical" being in the mix.

Bah, whatever. Call me what you'd like about it all.

I just say it's about god damned time one of us males at least steps up.

Every single Male I grew up with had their balls and/or dick cut off, whether literally or metophorically speaking.

I envy the Princess that finally twitterpates me.

This movie better be getting royalties on every Tweet ever made.......

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Monday, February 24, 2014 3:58 PM

If you take offence to anything I posted here, I completely understand.

This is the very reason why the sequel to Bambi was made.

Here's a trailer..... :)

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Monday, February 24, 2014 4:27 PM

BYTEMITE

That was long. But, I read the second paragraph and concede to not tear into you randomly. Can't read it all now but I'll get to it eventually.

EDIT:

Wow. That was actually pretty tame, and wise. I agree. No matter what, the next generations and pop culture will always be screwed up in the view of the previous generations.

You put brakes on kids acting out and you potentially dial back the freedoms people fought for their kids to have. Is Miley wasting those freedoms and her potential and I have to take potshots about the tongue thing? Sure. Is Justin Beiber an asshole and I laugh up my sleeve about the deportation thing? Absolutely.

Will kids be dumb and try to emulate them? Do kids have an unhealthy fixation on their idols and say stupid things about being suicidal if people don't leave those idols alone? Unfortunately, yes. Kids adore a bad influence. That's just reality.

Bad influences and everything, they're still your kids. And culture will always skirt the boundaries of taste and decency. Unless you push the limits, you never evolve, never find out what really is and isn't acceptable, what is and isn't really a problem. Racism and sexism would still be in 1960s mode.

The point of having adults around is for the kids to do crazy stuff and test the limits, and for the adults to give guidance where it is needed so that hopefully when the kid grows out of their wild years, they're ready to craft a new world and take on the responsibilities that the world will dump on them. Miley Cyrus will never be as important to any of the kids looking up to her as their own friends and families, even if they're too young to admit it or they'll never say it.

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Monday, February 24, 2014 4:49 PM

Wow. All very true Byte. :)

I grew up thinking my parents were "normal" when they grew up even before That 70's Show took place.

There is no such thing as "normal". It is against nature and is a completely man-made concept. Even die-hard Liberal Darwinists for life would concede that if we all mindlessly clung on to a sense of "normal" even if it meant hurting yourelf, that enough "people" would say no and break off into a splinter group with their evolved opinions, right?

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Monday, February 24, 2014 4:59 PM

Shit.....

Mindless Cog.... Meet Slippery Slope ;)

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Monday, February 24, 2014 10:53 PM

JONGSSTRAW

I like Miley. She's not a kid anymore, and as a young woman she can do whatever she wants to. Kids today have all new shows with all new stars on Disney to be role models for them. That's not Miley's job anymore. Her fans from her Disney years have also grown up. Millionaire international recording artists don't stay home and knit.

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Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:44 AM

America loves a winner!

6IX ..." Too much hair ".

Jongs - no, but they should.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:55 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
6IX ..." Too much hair ".

Jongs - no, but they should.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

Here's equal awesomeness, covered hair at least....

I assume this guy had bad ass dreads at the time.

I wouldn't know...

I'm the only guy I know who could have qualified for AARP benefits without a shred of proof.

EDITED TO ADD: When this video came out, I thought J was old lol.....

:)

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Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:42 PM

America loves a winner!

" Too much hair "

Uttered by River at the sight of Shepherd Book's massive display of his unbound head of hair.

It was too much for her to take in , all at once.

So it is with your above manifesto, 6IX.

Too much

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:24 PM