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Speaking of Iraq --let's start with the obvious Deep State agenda in Ukraine: energy. Nations with a strategic "vital interest" in the region's energy mix include Ukraine, Russia, Poland, Germany (and the rest of the Europen Union, which currently depends on natural gas piped through Ukraine from Russia), Romania and (of course) the United States, which maintains a strategic interest in every square meter of the planet (including the seas and ice caps).

It's not much of a stretch to say that Russia's fiscal health and geopolitical influence are based on hydrocarbons--specifically gas and oil delivered to other nations for cash and/or political favors.

The maturation of fracking technologies have led to the exploration of western Ukraine, Poland and Romania by super-major oil companies such as Chevron: [extended quote from Where We Operate - Chevron]



Quote from analyst: This gas pipeline map graphically illustrates Gazprom's real problem. A major competing gas field is appearing literally underneath a major existing east-west gas pipeline running into central Europe. Drill wells and immediately begin selling to Germany and other existing Gazprom customers. ... The extent to which US-based multinational oil and gas firms are directly displacing Russian enterprises in supplying the EU is remarkable... the imminent threat of Ukrainian shale gas development is a factor in forcing Putin's hand over the EU trade deal. Putin's regional Great Power ambitions are backed entirely by strong arm hydrocarbon diplomacy. Putin's domestic political position equally rests on stable and elevated hydrocarbon prices to fund the state budget.

...Putin's risk arises not just from the example being set for Russian domestic opponents. If Putin is seen to be responsible for alienating and finally "losing" the Ukraine he'll find himself in trouble with the Russian Deep State.

... The overall objective is to destroy Putin's capacity to set marginal natural gas prices in Europe. If pipelines under the Baltic and Black Seas are feasible so are pipelines under the Mediterranean Sea from North Africa to France, and from the eastern Mediterranean and Aegean to Greece and southeastern Europe. Add some LPG terminals and European shale gas operations and this is achieved.

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So barring a third option which might still be possible, if you were forced into a choice between seeing some of these gits ripped limb from limb by angry mobs, or a total social collapse, what would YOU do ?

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Originally posted by Brenda:
I think there is going to be two Ukraines and the side with all the resourses will once again be under Russia's control.

As for building pipelines under all our oceans, why don't we just split the world in two and be done with it. (being sarcastic here)

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Biden to convene National Security Council on Ukraine crisis

https://nypost.com/2022/02/20/biden-to-convene-national-security-counc
il-on-ukraine-russia-invasion-crisis/

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