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Sunday, March 16, 2014 6:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Seems Fred Phelps is headed home.

Quote:



After Phelps was voted out of Westboro Baptist Church this past summer, he was moved out of the church and into a house, where he was watched to ensure he wouldn’t harm himself, a son estranged from the church said Sunday.

Phelps eventually stopped eating and drinking, and on Sunday, he was near death, son Nate Phelps said in a Facebook posting. The information also is based on an email sent by Nate Phelps to a Capital-Journal reporter.

"(Fred) is at Midland Hospice House where, as of yesterday (Friday), he is comfortable without the respiratory difficulty that he was having the day before and is unresponsive," Nate Phelps wrote, quoting a message sent to him.

For many years, Fred Phelps Sr. and his wife, Margie Marie Phelps, lived in an upper floor of the church.

On Sunday morning, the church and surrounding streets where many of the members live were quiet.

Drain declined to comment Sunday on a report that Fred Phelps Sr. has been excommunicated from the conservative church, known for its controversial anti-gay stance that he founded in the 1950s.

Drain also said Westboro Baptist Church doesn't have a new leader of the church because it doesn't have a designated leader.


http://cjonline.com/news/2014-03-16/wbc-spokesman-said-fred-phelps-sr-
was-healthy-month-he-entered-hospice



I must have missed the 'excommunication' memo. Was his crime one of being too hateful ? Not hateful enough ? Or simply for getting too old and feeble ?



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Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:44 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Just another example of how a few loonies can get a lot of press. Per Wiki, there's about 40 members of this nut cult, but they get beaucoup coverage because they seek it.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:36 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


George Takei's FB post claims Fred is on death's door.

And he says he won't be dancing on the old hater's grave.

Wish some here had the same decorum and class as Sulu.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Monday, March 17, 2014 8:00 PM

FREMDFIRMA



George Takei is a better man than me, and I'll be the first to admit it.
A peaceful exit is too damn kind for Phelps, and frankly, I sincerely hope Ariel Sharon was at least partially conscious for the hell he so rightfully deserved.

What a perfect irony it would be if Phelps died only after weeks of screaming in pain, denied any relief because of asinine policies directly inspired by his evil fucking religion and it's notion that suffering is good for you.

-F

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Thursday, March 20, 2014 4:51 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



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Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:52 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Hmmm.

Quote:

Despite his avowedly conservative views on social issues, and the early stirrings of the clout Christian evangelicals would enjoy within the Kansas Republican Party, Phelps ran as a Democrat during his brief dabble with politics. He finished a distant third in the 1990 gubernatorial primary, and later ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. Senate and Topeka mayor.


http://www.wtop.com/?nid=209&sid=3586775&pid=0&page=2




"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Is is too late to start the rumor that he died of AIDS?


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Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:34 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


The last pic of him did seem to suggest it.
Maybe that's why he was excommunicated from his own church ?


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Friday, March 21, 2014 3:28 AM

ELVISCHRIST





The Satanic Church says they'll be holding a pink mass at his gravesite to turn him gay in hell.

Sounds about as reasonable as anything any other religion preaches.

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Friday, March 21, 2014 8:58 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


And here I refrained from posting about this story, which has been around for days, because I knew what the reaction would be if I posted it.


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Friday, March 21, 2014 9:26 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

And here I refrained from posting about this story, which has been around for days , because I knew what the reaction would be if I posted it.




He just died yesterday.

Oh..., you're NOT talking about the pink Mass at the grave site to turn him gay, are ya ?

So, what IS your reaction to the original story ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Friday, March 21, 2014 3:40 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


He's been on his deathbed for days; they supposedly "excommunicated" him four or five days ago.

3/16: "Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps Sr. “on the edge of death,” son says", http://www.cbsnews.com/news/westboro-baptist-church-founder-fred-phelp
s-sr-on-the-edge-of-death-son-says
/

3/16: "Fred Phelps, ex-leader of Westboro Baptist, reportedly on death bed", http://www.torontosun.com/2014/03/16/fred-phelps-ex-leader-of-westboro
-baptist-reportedly-on-death-bed


3/17: "Elders excommunicate Phelps after power struggle, call for kindness within church", http://cjonline.com/news/2014-03-17/elders-excommunicate-phelps-after-
power-struggle-call-kindness-within-church


3/18: "Was Anti-Gay Westboro Founder Fred Phelps Excommunicated for Advocating ‘Kindness’?", http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/18/is-this-the-reason-anti-gay
-westboro-founder-fred-phelps-was-reportedly-excommunicated
/

As to your question, I saw the headlines several days ago, but didn't read the stories. My thoughts when I saw the headlines were that it was ironic if he was supposedly excommunicated by his church for apparently advocating a "kinder approach", and a hope that maybe if he's gone, without a leader maybe Westboro would become less active. That's about it.


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Friday, March 21, 2014 6:16 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Posted story is that he was excommunicated last summer, and not 4 or 5 days ago.

I've heard one of the daughters, and from what I can tell, there's hate enough for that cult church to carry on. And I don't toss the word 'hate' around nearly as casually as others may, but in this case, it applies.

I don't know if there was an official reason given for why he was booted from the church.

Don't much care either.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 21, 2014 10:13 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I merely said I SAW THE HEADLINES four or five days ago. I don't make a point of following the WBC.


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Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:54 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

Westboro Baptist Church Met With ‘Sorry For Your Loss’ Sign

Members of the Westboro Baptist Church continued their protests without their longtime pastor Fred Phelps outside the Midland Theatre in Downtown Kansas City.

More than 20 protesters protested pop star's Lorde concert, however it was another message that stuck out. A group of counter protesters held up a sign that read "sorry for your loss."

Megan Coleman helped make the sign.

"We realized that it wasn't so much about antagonizing them," she said, "but sending out the countered safe that we are here for people who need that message and need that positivity."

Yet, the message meant nothing to Steve Drain a longtime Westboro member.

"I don't even know what they're saying," he said.

Despite the lack of care for their message expressing condolences, Coleman has noticed that the Westboro protests have had a ripple effect, in fact a positive impact.

"It still does kind of bring other people together and so I think it's kind of counter-productive on that end," she said. http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/westboro-baptist-church-protests-l
orde-concert-first-protest-since-phelps-passing





"I don't even know what they're saying"?? Is he that steeped in hate, or do they care that little about Phelps' death, I wonder?

Not sure what "countered safe" means, typo was in the original article. I just thought it was a neat come-back.


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Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:09 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:


"I don't even know what they're saying," he said.




Either he's being so completely stubborn and dismissive of the attempted kind gesture towards the WBC, or ( and this is the really scary thing ) he really doesn't know what they're saying.


The disconnect from the WBC and pretty much everyone else is actually that severe and wide.

And I honestly don't know which is worse. That he does know, but is so completely wrapped up in his hate, the self made barrier simply can't be penetrated, he won't even passingly give the smallest amount of recognition, or the alternative, which would tell me these folks are simply beyond help.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:03 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I agree.


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Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I agree.




Cat's and dogs, living together... mass hysteria !!


We agree on something !



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