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Did New York just prove itself useless?
Wednesday, April 20, 2016 6:55 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Thursday, April 21, 2016 3:55 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: In terms of election 2016? Carbetbagger Clinton reportedly got about 1.2 million votes. Brooklyn-born Bernie got about 700,000 votes All of the GOP together got about 800,000 votes. Trump alone got about 524,000 votes. Trumpeteers and sTrumpettes have claimed that Trump is the only candidate on the GOP side who could win NY in the General Election. But he got far less than Bernie, and the GOP total got less than half of the Dem total. Does this not take away his argument? And why should anybody campaign in NY at all? Why waste the time or money? Dems look to take NY for granted - if they have 70% of the vote to start with, why spend any time or money there? Why should ANY GOP candidate spend time or money there? If it is a known loser, wouldn't it be dumb to waste efforts there? NY should be a wasteland of the campaign map for 2016, much like California normally is, always going to the Dems. If Cruz is the 2016 candidate, CA could be in play. It seems NY is out of play. Or is there another view?
Thursday, April 21, 2016 12:40 PM
REAVERFAN
Thursday, April 21, 2016 6:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: In terms of election 2016? Carbetbagger Clinton reportedly got about 1.2 million votes. Brooklyn-born Bernie got about 700,000 votes All of the GOP together got about 800,000 votes. Trump alone got about 524,000 votes. Trumpeteers and sTrumpettes have claimed that Trump is the only candidate on the GOP side who could win NY in the General Election. But he got far less than Bernie, and the GOP total got less than half of the Dem total. Does this not take away his argument? And why should anybody campaign in NY at all? Why waste the time or money? Dems look to take NY for granted - if they have 70% of the vote to start with, why spend any time or money there? Why should ANY GOP candidate spend time or money there? If it is a known loser, wouldn't it be dumb to waste efforts there? NY should be a wasteland of the campaign map for 2016, much like California normally is, always going to the Dems. If Cruz is the 2016 candidate, CA could be in play. It seems NY is out of play. Or is there another view? New York is a BLUE state, everybody knows this! Useless!? Really!? I don't think so. Maybe for the republicans it's useless,
Thursday, April 21, 2016 6:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: NY's deadline to register as a Dem or Repub came BEFORE the first debates on TV. This means that some New Yorker who never heard of Bernie until the debates, then decided they wanted to register Dem to vote for him, is just SOL. Trump's own kids couldn't vote for him because of the ridiculous rules in NY. http://time.com/4288516/donald-trump-new-york-republican-primary-ivanka/
Friday, April 22, 2016 1:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: NY's deadline to register as a Dem or Repub came BEFORE the first debates on TV. This means that some New Yorker who never heard of Bernie until the debates, then decided they wanted to register Dem to vote for him, is just SOL. Trump's own kids couldn't vote for him because of the ridiculous rules in NY. http://time.com/4288516/donald-trump-new-york-republican-primary-ivanka/ This is sounding just like a sTrumpette - inability to read, or comprehend the rules, and then abide by the clear rules, ignorant of their responsibility, yet choosing to blame somebody else or whine about their misfortune of being illiterate.
Saturday, April 23, 2016 1:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: NY's deadline to register as a Dem or Repub came BEFORE the first debates on TV. This means that some New Yorker who never heard of Bernie until the debates, then decided they wanted to register Dem to vote for him, is just SOL. Trump's own kids couldn't vote for him because of the ridiculous rules in NY. http://time.com/4288516/donald-trump-new-york-republican-primary-ivanka/ This is sounding just like a sTrumpette - inability to read, or comprehend the rules, and then abide by the clear rules, ignorant of their responsibility, yet choosing to blame somebody else or whine about their misfortune of being illiterate.There's also the fact of NY rules being made in such a fashion that anyone who doesn't pay attention to politics 24/7, then decides they'd like to participate, is in for a royal fucking. Don't forget that. It's all about the status quo in the empire state.
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 2:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: In terms of election 2016? Carbetbagger Clinton reportedly got about 1.2 million votes. Brooklyn-born Bernie got about 700,000 votes All of the GOP together got about 800,000 votes. Trump alone got about 524,000 votes. Trumpeteers and sTrumpettes have claimed that Trump is the only candidate on the GOP side who could win NY in the General Election. But he got far less than Bernie, and the GOP total got less than half of the Dem total. Does this not take away his argument? And why should anybody campaign in NY at all? Why waste the time or money? Dems look to take NY for granted - if they have 70% of the vote to start with, why spend any time or money there? Why should ANY GOP candidate spend time or money there? If it is a known loser, wouldn't it be dumb to waste efforts there? NY should be a wasteland of the campaign map for 2016, much like California normally is, always going to the Dems. If Cruz is the 2016 candidate, CA could be in play. It seems NY is out of play. Or is there another view? New York is a BLUE state, everybody knows this! Useless!? Really!? I don't think so. Maybe for the republicans it's useless, If you could read the post, you could see that it meant useless, not in play, without influence, regarding the upcoming General Election for President. Since it is not in play for the Republicans, hence useless and pointless to expend campaign resources upon, then it is also not in play for the Democratics, hence useless to expend campaign resources upon. If you can comprehend that, is there any other viewpoint that is sensible?
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 2:54 AM
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 3:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: NY's deadline to register as a Dem or Repub came BEFORE the first debates on TV. This means that some New Yorker who never heard of Bernie until the debates, then decided they wanted to register Dem to vote for him, is just SOL. Trump's own kids couldn't vote for him because of the ridiculous rules in NY. http://time.com/4288516/donald-trump-new-york-republican-primary-ivanka/ This is sounding just like a sTrumpette - inability to read, or comprehend the rules, and then abide by the clear rules, ignorant of their responsibility, yet choosing to blame somebody else or whine about their misfortune of being illiterate.There's also the fact of NY rules being made in such a fashion that anyone who doesn't pay attention to politics 24/7, then decides they'd like to participate, is in for a royal fucking. Don't forget that. It's all about the status quo in the empire state. There is no requirement to pay attention to politics 24/7. Merely to pay attention once every 4 years. That does not seem extraordinary. More pertinant about the Empire State politics is that the liberal political party in NY is called "Republican" and the political party of socialism, communism, left wing extremism is called "Democrat" and any reasonable person right of center is registered in the "Conservative" party, which is why Cruz supporters cannot vote for him in NY Primaries. Cruz campaign knew this, and I have not heard his supporters whining ceaselessly about it. But if you think about the Cruz and Bernie situations in this state, it is bewildering to think the primary results of NY have any merit regarding campaign "surge" or "energizing" on the national stage - it is just about the microcosm of the New York Libtards - apologies for the redundant terms there.
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 3:20 AM
Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:31 PM
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