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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
LOL... Meanwhile Democrats still give Obama a pass for how bad he did by blaming it on GWB 8 years later.

I agree. I said years ago here that GWB was the worst president we ever had on more than one occasion. Obama took it to a new level.

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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
LOL... Meanwhile Democrats still give Obama a pass for how bad he did by blaming it on GWB 8 years later.

I agree. I said years ago here that GWB was the worst president we ever had on more than one occasion. Obama took it to a new level.

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First, catch up, Trump is president. Second, judging by what you wrote, how, how, is Obama taking to a new level insulting Bush. Obama rarely speaks of Bush except to be nice. You're as bad as SIG concerning making shit up.

Wake up

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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
LOL... Meanwhile Democrats still give Obama a pass for how bad he did by blaming it on GWB 8 years later.

I agree. I said years ago here that GWB was the worst president we ever had on more than one occasion. Obama took it to a new level.

I'm going to give Trump more than 3 months before I start saying we're in for a Threepeat.

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Shiny,

I actually completely agree with that rant.

6, I say 3 months of bad, or my standard 18 months of neutral. I gave Bush 18 months, I gave Obama 18 months. I can give Trump 18 months if he doesn't start WWIII. The media is helping him by hating him so much. They shot theire credibility by chosing GWB as the one republican president to support, and then there was radio silence for much of Obama, or fluff pieces, and pawning sycophantic drooling like with Bill Clinton.

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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Jesus Christ SGG. It's barely 6AM here. Take it down a notch. How much coffee have you had already today?

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Shiny,


We were all shocked. Like WTF just happened.

Looking over the stuff that Assange posted, I decided he was right. Trump probably got around 59% of ballots actually cast. And the largest defection was really the great lakes. It led me to some digging and I came to the conclusion that there isn't really a partisan north south bias. After the civil war the GOP installed a corrupt machine in the south.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
What? Are you daft? GOP has had nothing in the South before, during, or after the Civil War, until recently. The whole slavery thing, Civil War, and KKK/lynching stuff was all Democrats, through and through. Did you merely have a brainfart, or are you drinking some illegal type koolaid?

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JSF,

Democrat stuff. Not that long term a defection, thinking the last few election cycles and particularly this on, not going into the solid south. Loss of factories in the 1990s and 2000s due to globalization, and defection that resulted from 2008 to 2016. Using the term Tammany Hall figuratively, not literally.

Re: the civil war, of course I know that, Jefferson Davis was a democrat, the south were dems. That doesn't make the carpet baggers and northern banks and their puppet politicians in reconstruction not corrupt. Arkanas btw is still pretty much a klan state. These are about political machines was my point, not so much differing value sets. Kentucky is more conservative than New York, but urban Kentucky is not more conservative than rural New York. That's much more of a split.


Here's Breitbart's map of what an Assange-corrected map of activity would look like, which is more in line with what the majority of Americans who are on facebook said, according to Breitbart. Snopes calls this fake new. I don't trust either source, I'm guessing there are issues with this because Colorado is a pretty liberal state, and so is Vermont. There's no way someone has a list of all facebook activity and is painting Vermont a solid red.


So, I wasn't endorsing this version of alternate reality. Sure, something on the order of Breitbart's map would be correct assuming there was no voter fraud in the other direction which is not something that would be safe to assume.

My main point was this. (Time magazine, bias in favor of Trump as the republican candidate) by county: That's a strong Great Lakes bias pro-Trump