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Fascinating History of Paul Manafort

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:20 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-ame
rican-hustler/550925
/

No matter your political leanings this is a great article. I have always wondered how these political advisors operate, how they "submit a bill for payment" ... of millions of dollars. How do they sell themselves and their worth? Definite insights into how these people *make things happen.* Massive greed for power and money is an obvious motivator, "Manafort wanted to be an Oligarch."

Side note: I was wrong about the relationship between Manafort and Yanakovich. I thought Manafort started dressing and cutting his hair to look like Yanakovich, when the opposite was what happened.

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:52 AM

THGRRI





T

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:00 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Meanwhile, truth comes out about FBI rigging the email investigation for Hillary. And faking the Trump/Russia fairytales

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:21 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Meanwhile, truth comes out about FBI rigging the email investigation for Hillary.



You mean bringing up the Weiner/Abedin part right before the election to make her look bad?

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
And faking the Trump/Russia fairytales.



For an innocent guy he sure is working hard to get rid of all the people who are connected to the investigation. Why wouldn't he just ignore them? Surely he has more important things to do?

Read the article - trust me, it's entertaining.

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:24 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Meanwhile, truth comes out about FBI rigging the email investigation for Hillary. And faking the Trump/Russia fairytales




There comes a point in time when one must call a spade a spade. You rappy and those who post as you do, are either not American, or you're nothing more than trolls. Truths and facts concerning Trump are in fact, truths and facts.

It is clear by this post of yours you completely side with Trump, and worse the Russians. Facts to you are inconsequential.


T

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol.. Geez. Even Rappy is a Russian Troll now.

You're a hoot, T.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:31 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol.. Geez. Even Rappy is a Russian Troll now.

You're a hoot, T.




Learn to read stupid. I said he was either not American or a troll. And yes stupid, he said the Russians did nothing. That clearly puts him on their side. I can only speculate as to why.

And stupid, I used the term trolls. That's plural dummy. Really, learn to read.

T

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:33 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Read the article - trust me, it's entertaining.

The magazine won't mind a sample from their article
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-american-hu
stler/550925
/

Part I. The Wisdom of Friends

The clinic permitted Paul Manafort one 10-minute call each day. And each day, he would use it to ring his wife from Arizona, his voice often soaked in tears. “Apparently he sobs daily,” his daughter Andrea, then 29, texted a friend. During the spring of 2015, Manafort’s life had tipped into a deep trough. A few months earlier, he had intimated to his other daughter, Jessica, that suicide was a possibility. He would “be gone forever,” she texted Andrea.

His work, the source of the status he cherished, had taken a devastating turn. For nearly a decade, he had counted primarily on a single client, albeit an exceedingly lucrative one. He’d been the chief political strategist to the man who became the president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, with whom he’d developed a highly personal relationship. Manafort would swim naked with his boss outside his banya, play tennis with him at his palace (“Of course, I let him win,” Manafort made it known), and generally serve as an arbiter of power in a vast country. One of his deputies, Rick Gates, once boasted to a group of Washington lobbyists, “You have to understand, we’ve been working in Ukraine a long time, and Paul has a whole separate shadow government structure … In every ministry, he has a guy.” Only a small handful of Americans—oil executives, Cold War spymasters—could claim to have ever amassed such influence in a foreign regime. The power had helped fill Manafort’s bank accounts; according to his recent indictment, he had tens of millions of dollars stashed in havens like Cyprus and the Grenadines.

Manafort had profited from the sort of excesses that make a country ripe for revolution. And in the early months of 2014, protesters gathered on the Maidan, Kiev’s Independence Square, and swept his patron from power. Fearing for his life, Yanukovych sought protective shelter in Russia. Manafort avoided any harm by keeping a careful distance from the enflamed city. But in his Kiev office, he’d left behind a safe filled with papers that he would not have wanted to fall into public view or the wrong hands.

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:07 PM

THGRRI




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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol.. Geez. Even Rappy is a Russian Troll now.

You're a hoot, T.

Learn to read stupid. I said he was either not American or a troll. And yes stupid, he said the Russians did nothing. That clearly puts him on their side. I can only speculate as to why.

And stupid, I used the term trolls. That's plural dummy. Really, learn to read.

T


yet another reminder that the last refuge of the dunce is to call everybody else stupid.

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:39 PM

THGRRI


This video is for stupid troll number 2. You know who you are.




T

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:07 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
This video is for stupid troll number 2. You know who you are.

T

Doesn't look like Captain crunch has visited this thread in over an hour. You should repost your comments to him, in a thread he's active in.

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Tuesday, January 30, 2018 8:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol.. Geez. Even Rappy is a Russian Troll now.

You're a hoot, T.

Learn to read stupid. I said he was either not American or a troll. And yes stupid, he said the Russians did nothing. That clearly puts him on their side. I can only speculate as to why.

And stupid, I used the term trolls. That's plural dummy. Really, learn to read.

T


yet another reminder that the last refuge of the dunce is to call everybody else stupid.



It's gotten to the point that you can pretty much predict exactly how T is going to reply to your post before you hit the Save Response button.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:00 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


WTF!? This was not the post I commented on.


SGG


Damn great post Thrggi, you beat me to it. There's really nothing more to say......Classic Ooops!


SGG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:


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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:04 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Great post, Thrggi...you beat me to it. I love it, Classic Oooops!
And it couldn't happen to a "nicer" guy, fucking Hannity!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
This video is for stupid troll number 2. You know who you are.




T


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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:08 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


In order to be one of these dudes, you have to have your soul removed.
Manafort, Trump, Putin of the same ilk.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-ame
rican-hustler/550925
/

No matter your political leanings this is a great article. I have always wondered how these political advisors operate, how they "submit a bill for payment" ... of millions of dollars. How do they sell themselves and their worth? Definite insights into how these people *make things happen.* Massive greed for power and money is an obvious motivator, "Manafort wanted to be an Oligarch."

Side note: I was wrong about the relationship between Manafort and Yanakovich. I thought Manafort started dressing and cutting his hair to look like Yanakovich, when the opposite was what happened.


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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:56 AM

SIGNYM

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CAPTAINCRUNCH: HI, SECOND!

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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:46 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
CAPTAINCRUNCH: HI, SECOND!



I was thinking it might be T or G, but that would be hilarious if it were Second.

He's finding it completely impossible to have social interactions with anybody else at this point because he doesn't know how to engage with other people, so he's resorted to quoting and having conversations with himself. Priceless.



I still don't think it's Second's sockpuppet, but I'm starting to wonder if Second is an alien life form that hasn't figured out how to properly communicate with humans yet. God bless the little rascal for trying though. Gotta admire his tenacity.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:22 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
CAPTAINCRUNCH: HI, SECOND!



I was thinking it might be T or G, but that would be hilarious if it were Second.

He's finding it completely impossible to have social interactions with anybody else at this point because he doesn't know how to engage with other people, so he's resorted to quoting and having conversations with himself. Priceless.

I still don't think it's Second's sockpuppet, but I'm starting to wonder if Second is an alien life form that hasn't figured out how to properly communicate with humans yet. God bless the little rascal for trying though. Gotta admire his tenacity.

6ixStringJack, the proper way to communicate with humans is in person. You know, in the same room? Once you got that personal touch, then you expand it with email or messages at fireflyfans.net. Until you see them in person, you can't know what you are dealing with. How's it going with your interactions in Indiana with your neighbors, friends, bosses, co-workers? Not so good, is it? I think they smell something rotten about you, at least if I go by your more revealing personal stories. The deal about Manafort is that Trump hired the guy after meeting him. That shows a real lack of good judgment on Trump's part. Or Trump has no sense of smell when somebody rotten shakes his hand. OMG! Maybe Manafort was exactly what Trump wanted! That's terrible!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
6ixStringJack, the proper way to communicate with humans is in person. You know, in the same room? Once you got that personal touch, then you expand it with email or messages at fireflyfans.net. Until you see them in person, you can't know what you are dealing with. How's it going with your interactions in Indiana with your neighbors, friends, bosses, co-workers? Not so good, is it? I think they smell something rotten about you, at least if I go by your more revealing personal stories. The deal about Manafort is that Trump hired the guy after meeting him. That shows a real lack of good judgment on Trump's part. Or Trump has no sense of smell when somebody rotten shakes his hand. OMG! Maybe Manafort was exactly what Trump wanted! That's terrible!



I'm doing just fine in real life, buddy. But thanks for asking. :)

Job outlook is pretty sweet at the moment.

One thing I don't do in person is talk politics with anybody about anything. That's what I use this forum for. A personal dumping grounds for all of that bullshit.

Thanks for being my toilet. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:57 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
CAPTAINCRUNCH: HI, SECOND!



HI WHOZIT!

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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 9:59 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Job outlook is pretty sweet at the moment.



That was one quick change! You were bitching about how horrible employment was just a few weeks ago. Are you black? I didn't see that one!

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's what I use this forum for. A personal dumping grounds for all of that bullshit.

Thanks for being my toilet. ;)



Huh? That logic makes you taking a shit on yourself...

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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 11:58 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Job outlook is pretty sweet at the moment.



Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
That was one quick change! You were bitching about how horrible employment was just a few weeks ago. Are you black? I didn't see that one!



Oh yeah? I never even saw your handle a week ago so I guess we're both learning new things today. Who's sockpuppet am I speaking with again?

I'd ask you what color you were, but I don't give a shit.

If you must know, my own personal job outlook is looking good now. I made my way into a company on the absolute ground floor and there might be a lot more room for advancement there for performers than I thought possible and my name is getting some recognition before my 90 day evaluation period is even 2/3rds up.

The market in general is shit, and there was no way I was going to walk into anything making a fraction of what I used to. Sucks to be most people. Cling to whatever job you have for dear life.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's what I use this forum for. A personal dumping grounds for all of that bullshit.

Thanks for being my toilet. ;)



Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Huh? That logic makes you taking a shit on yourself...



The logic behind your reply makes no sense. Read it again and when you're ready you can explain yourself.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:31 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
CAPTAINCRUNCH: HI, SECOND!

I was thinking it might be T or G, but that would be hilarious if it were Second.

He's finding it completely impossible to have social interactions with anybody else at this point because he doesn't know how to engage with other people, so he's resorted to quoting and having conversations with himself. Priceless.

I still don't think it's Second's sockpuppet, but I'm starting to wonder if Second is an alien life form that hasn't figured out how to properly communicate with humans yet. God bless the little rascal for trying though. Gotta admire his tenacity.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I thought CaptCrunch was the guy who went off to the wilderness someplace, maybe retired, wasn't going to have internet available? Like months or half year ago?
Or was it G? Did he leave for a bit? Him and T are always talking to themselves anyhow, posting replies to themselves and bumping their boring delusional lonely threads.

And body notice it's been more than a year since G started a thread?

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