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Tuesday, May 1, 2018 11:04 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Exclusive: Democrats lose ground with millennials - Reuters/Ipsos poll MANCHESTER, N.H. (Reuters) - Enthusiasm for the Democratic Party is waning among millennials as its candidates head into the crucial midterm congressional elections, according to the Reuters/Ipsos national opinion poll. The online survey of more than 16,000 registered voters ages 18 to 34 shows their support for Democrats over Republicans for Congress slipped by about 9 percentage points over the past two years, to 46 percent overall. And they increasingly say the Republican Party is a better steward of the economy. Although nearly two of three young voters polled said they do not like Republican President Donald Trump, their distaste for him does not necessarily extend to all Republicans or translate directly into votes for Democratic congressional candidates. That presents a potential problem for Democrats who have come to count on millennials as a core constituency - and will need all the loyalty they can get to achieve a net gain of 23 seats to capture control of the U.S. House of Representatives in November.
Quote: California opposes sanctuary cities, Berkeley poll suggests March 28, 2017 Californians are overwhelmingly opposed to sanctuary city immigration policies, according to a poll commissioned by UC Berkeley Institute for Governmental Studies (IGS). As a caveat, the director of IGS notes 99.5 percent of participants in the poll were citizens, and the survey was only conducted in English. Between Aug. 11 and Aug. 26, Survey Sampling International conducted the poll on behalf of UC Berkeley, sampling 1,098 respondents. Of those polled, 74 percent said local authorities should not be allowed to ignore federal detainer requests. The other 26 percent supported the sanctuary city policy of preventing local police and sheriff’s officials from honoring immigration holds. The poll results indicate Californians across the political spectrum and among all major ethnic groups oppose sanctuary city policies. The policy of ignoring federal detainer requests was opposed by 73 percent of Democrats, 82 percent of Republicans and 71 percent of independents, according to UC Berkley. Additionally, 65 percent of Latinos, 75 percent of Asian and African Americans and 80 percent of whites opposed sanctuary city policies.
Quote:Most California voters think illegal immigration is a problem, but don't see mass deportation as the answer Almost two-thirds of California voters believe that illegal immigration is a major problem in the state, but by even larger majorities they reject the idea of mass deportations and favor allowing those currently living in the country without authorization to stay and apply for citizenship. The latest USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times statewide poll found that 62% of voters said they believed illegal immigration in California is at least a major problem, with 23% calling it a crisis. By contrast, 36% said the issue was a small problem or not a problem at all.
Tuesday, May 1, 2018 11:38 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: As a caveat, the director of IGS notes 99.5 percent of participants in the poll were citizens, and the survey was only conducted in English.
Quote:A comment on the last two polls ... it's easy for people in some states to wring their hands over illegal immigrants, but here in California, where we have to LIVE with the problem of (basically) unrestricted immigration, the downside becomes readily apparent.
Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:34 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The first poll: the pendulum swings. The millennials are opening their eyes, and the clueless Rock-The-Voters from a decade ago are now less immature and more clued in.
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 8:12 AM
Quote: Yeah... That's quite a dilemma there in California. The state who's national motto should be "SJW Capitol of the World".- SIX
Quote: I'd imagine it's pretty hard to go about your daily life pushing your morals on everyone else in the world when the real world effects of those same morals start negatively impacting your own life.= SIX
Quote:What I think would be interesting to see is how many of the people who voted against illegal immigration in these polls (in secret) went right back to supporting them on Facebook where they were virtue signalling in the open. My guess, especially among the Democrats polled here, is that this would be a pretty high number of them.- SIZ
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 2:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: Yeah... That's quite a dilemma there in California. The state who's national motto should be "SJW Capitol of the World".- SIX The polls are telling me that this SHOULDN'T be the motto for CA, and the reason is ... Quote: I'd imagine it's pretty hard to go about your daily life pushing your morals on everyone else in the world when the real world effects of those same morals start negatively impacting your own life.= SIX Again, I don't think the problem is some sort of statewide hypocrisy on the issue, the problem is ... Quote:What I think would be interesting to see is how many of the people who voted against illegal immigration in these polls (in secret) went right back to supporting them on Facebook where they were virtue signalling in the open. My guess, especially among the Democrats polled here, is that this would be a pretty high number of them.- SIZ Again, I don't think this is some sort of statewide hypocrisy, the problem is ... ... the media. Before Trump was elected, I talked to a lot of people about immigration, and I was shocked - shocked, I tell you- how many people supported Trump's POV on this issue. I even mentioned it here, more than once: The demographic that should have been exactly the demographic NOT supporting Trump - female, Asian, immigrant (legal), technically-trained (in other words, not white, uneducated, American-born men) - were universally 100% in support of Trump. Since then, I've met two more of the same category (one Taiwanese and one Japanese) who feel the same way.
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 2:43 PM
Quote:Why would you imagine this particular demographic (other than gender) supporting Illegal uneducated criminal Aliens jumping to the front of the waiting line before legal immigrants? They would need to be crazy to do that.
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Why would you imagine this particular demographic (other than gender) supporting Illegal uneducated criminal Aliens jumping to the front of the waiting line before legal immigrants? They would need to be crazy to do that. Well, if there is a polar opposite to the "typical" Trump supporter, as portrayed by the media ...
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Why would you imagine this particular demographic (other than gender) supporting Illegal uneducated criminal Aliens jumping to the front of the waiting line before legal immigrants? They would need to be crazy to do that. Well, if there is a polar opposite to the "typical" Trump supporter, as portrayed by the media ... you know, left-behind, dumb-as-a-stump, flyover-state white Xtian males who feel threatened with loss of some sort of "status" ... it would be these educated, employed, coastal, world-traveling, female immigrants of color. But you're right: The one thing that pisses them off more than anything are entitled illegal immigrants. In fact the worst takedown that I ever heard about Chinese immigrants scamming our system came from a Chinese woman who thinks our system is stupid because it allows people to scam our system. She gave a very detailed description of the process, which ended up with BMW's in the welfare office parking lot.
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 5:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Why would you imagine this particular demographic (other than gender) supporting Illegal uneducated criminal Aliens jumping to the front of the waiting line before legal immigrants? They would need to be crazy to do that. Well, if there is a polar opposite to the "typical" Trump supporter, as portrayed by the media ... you know, left-behind, dumb-as-a-stump, flyover-state white Xtian males who feel threatened with loss of some sort of "status" ... it would be these educated, employed, coastal, world-traveling, female immigrants of color. But you're right: The one thing that pisses them off more than anything are entitled illegal immigrants. In fact the worst takedown that I ever heard about Chinese immigrants scamming our system came from a Chinese woman who thinks our system is stupid because it allows people to scam our system. She gave a very detailed description of the process, which ended up with BMW's in the welfare office parking lot. I don't think you and JSF are arguing. I think he's doing that thing again where he's either intentionally or accidentially not understanding what you're posting and then he's arguing something you're not saying. lol
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 5:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Why would you imagine this particular demographic (other than gender) supporting Illegal uneducated criminal Aliens jumping to the front of the waiting line before legal immigrants? They would need to be crazy to do that. Well, if there is a polar opposite to the "typical" Trump supporter, as portrayed by the media ... you know, left-behind, dumb-as-a-stump, flyover-state white Xtian males who feel threatened with loss of some sort of "status" ... it would be these educated, employed, coastal, world-traveling, female immigrants of color. But you're right: The one thing that pisses them off more than anything are entitled illegal immigrants. In fact the worst takedown that I ever heard about Chinese immigrants scamming our system came from a Chinese woman who thinks our system is stupid because it allows people to scam our system. She gave a very detailed description of the process, which ended up with BMW's in the welfare office parking lot. I don't think you and JSF are arguing. I think he's doing that thing again where he's either intentionally or accidentially not understanding what you're posting and then he's arguing something you're not saying. lol If she was saying that she thinks that Legal law-abiding Immigrants or Citizens who are competent and gainfully employed should support or endorse Illegal Criminal Alien repeat offenders who live and birth on Government handouts, then I am indeed arguing with her and any thought process which arrives at that specific point. Which I had thought I made clear. If she didn't mean what she posted, then I did not understand what she was thinking about.
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 7:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Before Trump was elected, I talked to a lot of people about immigration, and I was shocked - shocked, I tell you- how many people supported Trump's POV on this issue. I even mentioned it here, more than once: The demographic that should have been exactly the demographic NOT supporting Trump - female, Asian, immigrant (legal), technically-trained (in other words, not white, uneducated, American-born men) - were universally 100% in support of Trump. Since then, I've met two more of the same category (one Taiwanese and one Japanese) who feel the same way. Why would you imagine this particular demographic (other than gender) supporting Illegal uneducated criminal Aliens jumping to the front of the waiting line before legal immigrants? They would need to be crazy to do that.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Before Trump was elected, I talked to a lot of people about immigration, and I was shocked - shocked, I tell you- how many people supported Trump's POV on this issue. I even mentioned it here, more than once: The demographic that should have been exactly the demographic NOT supporting Trump - female, Asian, immigrant (legal), technically-trained (in other words, not white, uneducated, American-born men) - were universally 100% in support of Trump. Since then, I've met two more of the same category (one Taiwanese and one Japanese) who feel the same way.
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 7:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Why would you imagine this particular demographic (other than gender) supporting Illegal uneducated criminal Aliens jumping to the front of the waiting line before legal immigrants? They would need to be crazy to do that. Well, if there is a polar opposite to the "typical" Trump supporter, as portrayed by the media ... you know, left-behind, dumb-as-a-stump, flyover-state white Xtian males who feel threatened with loss of some sort of "status" ... it would be these educated, employed, coastal, world-traveling, female immigrants of color. But you're right: The one thing that pisses them off more than anything are entitled illegal immigrants. In fact the worst takedown that I ever heard about Chinese immigrants scamming our system came from a Chinese woman who thinks our system is stupid because it allows people to scam our system. She gave a very detailed description of the process, which ended up with BMW's in the welfare office parking lot. I don't think you and JSF are arguing. I think he's doing that thing again where he's either intentionally or accidentially not understanding what you're posting and then he's arguing something you're not saying. lol If she was saying that she thinks that Legal law-abiding Immigrants or Citizens who are competent and gainfully employed should support or endorse Illegal Criminal Alien repeat offenders who live and birth on Government handouts, then I am indeed arguing with her and any thought process which arrives at that specific point. Which I had thought I made clear. If she didn't mean what she posted, then I did not understand what she was thinking about.That is exactly the opposite of what she posted. Once again this is an example of you needing to read before you post. Read it again. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 8:43 PM
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:25 PM
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Signy was saying that her female, Oriental, highly educated friends and co-workers are NOT supporting illegal immigration.
Quote: She is saying that the MEDIA is the ones that are portraying ALL CALIFORNIANS as bleeding heart SJW snowflakes that support illegal immigration and sanctuary cities when this, at least in HER OWN EXPERIENCE IS NOT THE TRUTH.
Quote: Technically, she wasn't actually stating any opinion on the issue HERSELF.
Quote: LEARN TO READ, IDIOT.
Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:51 PM
Thursday, May 3, 2018 1:14 AM
Thursday, May 3, 2018 1:29 AM
Quote: My first reaction to the demonstrations has been less than generous. People demand to be legalized just because they want it? Most other nations have strict immigation laws, so why should the US be singled out to throw open its borders? The large grafitti-covered neighborhoods where homies speak Spanglish with north Mexican drawl makes me think we haven't absorbed the last couple of generations yet. Don't get me wrong- my dad was an immigrant. My SO immigrated to the USA. My grandparents on my mom's side were immigrants. My dad came here the hard way- from Poland via a Siberian labor camp to Britain. He lost all of his foreign education credits (Doctorate in Physics from Poland and Master in Economics from London) but he worked his way up from bookeeper to accountant and auditor. My SO walked out of Hungary in 1956 and was plunked into second grade not speaking a lick of English. Now he works as a computer/ engineering guru for a major university. But they were LEGAL immigrants. They worked hard and they assimilated. And then aside from feelings of cultural lifeboatism, there's the whole issue of having a whole population of desperate workers. Why export your business when you've got a foreign, intimidated population right at home? Illegal immigration is good for agribusiness, homeowners who want to pay rock-bottom dollar for a 24-7 nanny, and construction companies but does it do any good for the average US worker to be competing on those grounds?
Quote:In addition, the Mexican government actually provides information on how to evade US Immigration. The "special relationship" that Bush and Fox share is the "special relationship" of two extremely corrupt wealthy men: one who uses emigration to let the steam out of incipient reform at home, the other who uses immigration to lower wages and benefits in favor of corporations. And we're expected to play that rigged game? I don't think so.
Quote:Hubby and I were talking about Brexit the other day, and he said something that I recognized- with a little shock- as being true. In essence, he said that the globalists have been working on destroying nations for over 50 years. The push for globalism isn't about multicultural acceptance or "helping" the poor, the real driver of globalism is -of course- profit: creating the ability of transnational corporations to relocate their production lines to cheap labor nations and sell into other nations without fear of tariff. Centralizing banking into a few transnational entities, enforcing neoliberal "austerity" as economic policy. Allowing international currency speculation. Slopping people back and forth across the globe, creating chaos everywhere. How to go about destroying a nation? By moving its financial decision-making processes to private central banks and the IMF. By requiring trade decisions to be made by secret arbitration panels which rule according to trade deals negotiated in secret. Allowing foreign speculation in national assets. Buying off the top politicians of each nation. Bombing the snot out of some, if necessary, and destabilizing others which resist being incorporated. By creating "refugee" crises and immigration crises which create masses desperate for jobs at any wage. For those of you who think that I'm a dyed-in-the-wool (fill in the blank) I'd like you to realize that my thinking has evolved over time. Years earlier, I shared the liberal POV on illegal immigrants. I wanted to "help" them. Then, at some point, and with a little reflection, I realized that the liberal POV of "helping" illegal immigrants wasn't really helpful at all. That if we REALLY wanted to help immigrants, and bring them into our nation on helpful basis, we would be doing far, far more than what we're currently doing. In my mind, I generated a whole program of things that we should be doing ... and then quickly realized that (1) We would be treating immigrants better than citizens and (2) Our economy couldn't accommodate the millions of people who would be accessing those programs, and we would sooner rather than later kill the goose that was laying that golden egg.
Quote:I would eliminate the whole "born in the USA" 14th amendment, and make English the official language. In return, I would provide a path forward to citizenship for all illegal residents, provided that they could prove residency for ten (15?) years, were not convicted of any crime other than illegal immigration, and learned to speak English FLUENTLY. After that?? NO MERCY to illegals, and no more anchor babies!
Thursday, May 3, 2018 3:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: JSF, are you posting drunk? I can't imagine what you THINK I'm saying, but apparently it's the opposite of what I meant. I wasn't posting that legal immigrants "should" be for illegal immigration,
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Before Trump was elected, I talked to a lot of people about immigration, and I was shocked - shocked, I tell you- how many people supported Trump's POV on this issue. I even mentioned it here, more than once: The demographic that should have been exactly the demographic NOT supporting Trump - female, Asian, immigrant (legal), technically-trained (in other words, not white, uneducated, American-born men) - were universally 100% in support of Trump. Since then, I've met two more of the same category (one Taiwanese and one Japanese) who feel the same way. Why would you imagine this particular demographic (other than gender) supporting Illegal uneducated criminal Aliens jumping to the front of the waiting line before legal immigrants? They would need to be crazy to do that.Rereading yet again, trying to translate apparently common American English clear language into whatever interpretation that 6ix is imagining. Not getting it. Also, not elaborated specifically in this thread, but Asian is pertinent because Asians cannot merely walk across the land border from their Country of Origin and plant themselves at the front of the line for Total Allowed Immigrants, like Mexicans do every day. And travel across the Pacific is more arduous than Atlantic shipping.
Thursday, May 3, 2018 11:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Your comprehension is abysmal.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: OK, I must have misunderstood your post here.
Thursday, May 3, 2018 2:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Your comprehension is abysmal. Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: OK, I must have misunderstood your post here. So. I guess my comprehension is pretty on point, huh? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, May 3, 2018 3:22 PM
Thursday, May 3, 2018 7:55 PM
Quote: Before Trump was elected, I talked to a lot of people about immigration, and I was shocked - shocked, I tell you-
Quote: how many people supported Trump's POV on this issue. I even mentioned it here, more than once: The demographic that should have been exactly the demographic NOT supporting Trump
Quote:- female, Asian, immigrant (legal), technically-trained (in other words, not white, uneducated, American-born men) - were universally 100% in support of Trump. Since then, I've met two more of the same category (one Taiwanese and one Japanese) who feel the same way.
Thursday, May 3, 2018 11:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Maybe this explanation will help Quote: Before Trump was elected, I talked to a lot of people about immigration, and I was shocked - shocked, I tell you- A bit of irony, I was exaggerating for effect Quote: how many people supported Trump's POV on this issue. I even mentioned it here, more than once: The demographic that should have been exactly the demographic NOT supporting Trump
Friday, May 4, 2018 2:33 PM
Friday, May 4, 2018 4:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: So. I guess my comprehension is pretty on point, huh? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, May 4, 2018 5:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: So. I guess my comprehension is pretty on point, huh? Do Right, Be Right. :)No. What she said is what I read, and understood. What she meant was the opposite of what she said, which she just explained.
Monday, May 7, 2018 1:04 PM
Tuesday, May 8, 2018 9:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I heard that Reuters/ipsos is embargoing their own poll regarding Trump and GOP. It is so disastrous for Libtards that they are telling everybody that their own poll is wrong, they don't believe their own results. Several polls have shown Trump approval ratings over 50%. I have heard this is 5% higher than Obama's highest rating, but I don't recall what Obama's poll ratings were. I've heard some comparisons to Obama's rating at similar point during his Regime. Nobody seems able to recall when any polling organization has proclaimed that their own poll was WRONG! FAKE! UNBELIEVABLE! Too funny. Libtard brains imploding all over.
Tuesday, May 8, 2018 2:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I heard that Reuters/ipsos is embargoing their own poll regarding Trump and GOP. It is so disastrous for Libtards that they are telling everybody that their own poll is wrong, they don't believe their own results. Several polls have shown Trump approval ratings over 50%. I have heard this is 5% higher than Obama's highest rating, but I don't recall what Obama's poll ratings were. I've heard some comparisons to Obama's rating at similar point during his Regime. Nobody seems able to recall when any polling organization has proclaimed that their own poll was WRONG! FAKE! UNBELIEVABLE! Too funny. Libtard brains imploding all over.Well.... if you include hindsight the polls showing Hillary winning in a landslide were a bit of an embarrassing miscalculation for most of the major polls. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, May 8, 2018 7:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I heard that Reuters/ipsos is embargoing their own poll regarding Trump and GOP. It is so disastrous for Libtards that they are telling everybody that their own poll is wrong, they don't believe their own results. Several polls have shown Trump approval ratings over 50%. I have heard this is 5% higher than Obama's highest rating, but I don't recall what Obama's poll ratings were. I've heard some comparisons to Obama's rating at similar point during his Regime. Nobody seems able to recall when any polling organization has proclaimed that their own poll was WRONG! FAKE! UNBELIEVABLE! Too funny. Libtard brains imploding all over.Well.... if you include hindsight the polls showing Hillary winning in a landslide were a bit of an embarrassing miscalculation for most of the major polls. Do Right, Be Right. :)This is not hindsight, this is at the time they present the poll, the results.
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