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Uh... yeah. There is no way I would ever live on Hawaii. If something bad happens, there's nowhere to go.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Although the earthquakes come first, they don't cause the eruptions. Both are caused by shifting magma. Now, what causes the magma to shift ... I don't think anybody knows!

Last I heard, even more fissures opened up spewing lava. There are now something like a dozen or so fissures: It sounds like something out of a terrible nightmare, where the ground opens up under your feet and starts gouting molten rock. *shudder* Fortunately for Hawaii, their volcanoes aren't the explosive kind.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Although the earthquakes come first, they don't cause the eruptions. Both are caused by shifting magma. Now, what causes the magma to shift ... I don't think anybody knows!

Last I heard, even more fissures opened up spewing lava. There are now something like a dozen or so fissures: It sounds like something out of a terrible nightmare, where the ground opens up under your feet and starts gouting molten rock. *shudder* Fortunately for Hawaii, their volcanoes aren't the explosive kind.


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You mean earthquake fissures can't create new avenues for pressured magma to rise?

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You should watch news interviews of Southern Californians explaining how they will avoid a massive earthquake. They'll all get in their cars and hit the highways. Like they don't notice EVERY DAY that the highways are hopelessly clogged with only a fraction of the traffic. And they think the airports won't be closed. They think they can outrun an earthquake, all the way across the fault line.

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You mean earthquake fissures can't create new avenues for pressured magma to rise?

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Not an expert, but I doubt it. Earthquakes are an indication of a magma moving through the rock, and a reliable precursor to an eruption. Generally, as the magma rises to the surface, the earthquakes get more and more shallow. As the magma forces its way to the surface the rocks start to break and slip; that is the cause of the quakes.

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You should watch news interviews of Southern Californians explaining how they will avoid a massive earthquake. They'll all get in their cars and hit the highways. Like they don't notice EVERY DAY that the highways are hopelessly clogged with only a fraction of the traffic. And they think the airports won't be closed. They think they can outrun an earthquake, all the way across the fault line.

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Don't remind me, she growled, I live near LA.

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Uh... yeah. There is no way I would ever live on Hawaii. If something bad happens, there's nowhere to go.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You should watch news interviews of Southern Californians explaining how they will avoid a massive earthquake. They'll all get in their cars and hit the highways. Like they don't notice EVERY DAY that the highways are hopelessly clogged with only a fraction of the traffic. And they think the airports won't be closed. They think they can outrun an earthquake, all the way across the fault line.


Now I wonder: do sharks flock to earthquake or volcano, or away?

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Uh... yeah. There is no way I would ever live on Hawaii. If something bad happens, there's nowhere to go.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You should watch news interviews of Southern Californians explaining how they will avoid a massive earthquake. They'll all get in their cars and hit the highways. Like they don't notice EVERY DAY that the highways are hopelessly clogged with only a fraction of the traffic. And they think the airports won't be closed. They think they can outrun an earthquake, all the way across the fault line.


Now I wonder: do sharks flock to earthquake or volcano, or away?

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Very true. Not really a worry for me though since I live in the center of the land mass that's virtually earthquake and hurricane free. At least for now. I don't even like going to downtown Milwaukee, let alone Chicago. I don't like being around that many people even in ideal conditions.

For me though, it's a mental thing. When I look at a map of Hawaii surrounded by that vast ocean, it I get claustrophobic just imagining it. I couldn't actually even visit Hawaii, let alone live there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Uh... yeah. There is no way I would ever live on Hawaii. If something bad happens, there's nowhere to go.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You should watch news interviews of Southern Californians explaining how they will avoid a massive earthquake. They'll all get in their cars and hit the highways. Like they don't notice EVERY DAY that the highways are hopelessly clogged with only a fraction of the traffic. And they think the airports won't be closed. They think they can outrun an earthquake, all the way across the fault line.


Now I wonder: do sharks flock to earthquake or volcano, or away?

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Very true. Not really a worry for me though since I live in the center of the land mass that's virtually earthquake and hurricane free. At least for now. I don't even like going to downtown Milwaukee, let alone Chicago. I don't like being around that many people even in ideal conditions.

For me though, it's a mental thing. When I look at a map of Hawaii surrounded by that vast ocean, it I get claustrophobic just imagining it. I couldn't actually even visit Hawaii, let alone live there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You go to Milwaukee while you live in Indiana? Know somebody stuck there?

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Uh... yeah. There is no way I would ever live on Hawaii. If something bad happens, there's nowhere to go.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You should watch news interviews of Southern Californians explaining how they will avoid a massive earthquake. They'll all get in their cars and hit the highways. Like they don't notice EVERY DAY that the highways are hopelessly clogged with only a fraction of the traffic. And they think the airports won't be closed. They think they can outrun an earthquake, all the way across the fault line.


Now I wonder: do sharks flock to earthquake or volcano, or away?

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Very true. Not really a worry for me though since I live in the center of the land mass that's virtually earthquake and hurricane free. At least for now. I don't even like going to downtown Milwaukee, let alone Chicago. I don't like being around that many people even in ideal conditions.

For me though, it's a mental thing. When I look at a map of Hawaii surrounded by that vast ocean, it I get claustrophobic just imagining it. I couldn't actually even visit Hawaii, let alone live there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You go to Milwaukee while you live in Indiana? Know somebody stuck there?

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I haven't been to Milwaukee in years. I used to live just south of it for about 5 years though, right around the time I joined this site.

I didn't mean anything bad about Milwaukee. I actually prefer it to Chicago if I absolutely HAD to go since it's not nearly as crowded. All I was saying is that I'm not a big city guy, and I have an aversion to big crowds.

I think the last time I was actually in Milwaukee was for Summerfest. Got to see Tom Petty and Eddie Vedder duet American Girl. Awesome concert. RIP Tommy boy. You will be missed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well! So much for Hawaiian volcanoes not being explosive! And this, AFTER the magma receded so quickly it cause the dome to collapse!





So, I tend to think of volcanoes as two types: The kind that burble and squirt lava, and the kind that blow up. I always thought that eruptions started big, and died down. Boy was I wrong!

I read a description of the eruption of Krakatoa. It was, at one time, a small volcanic island between two larger islands, with three distinct ash/lava cones. The eruption actually started kind of small. IIR correctly it was the smallest peak that started steaming and spewing ash first. This went on for a couple of days, then the next one in line took it up a notch and IT started steaming and spewing ash, even more violently than the first. This went on for a few more days, and finally the last and largest peak started to SERIOUSLY spew ash ... people on nearby islands went into caves to escape the sulfur fumes, acid, and ash. You would think that after a week the pressure would have been relieved, but no. The entire island was literally blown off the face of the earth with the largest volcanic explosion in western recorded history.

Not that I think this is going to happen in Hawaii, but it definitely puts to rest my naive ideas on how volcanoes progress!

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Uh... yeah. There is no way I would ever live on Hawaii. If something bad happens, there's nowhere to go.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You should watch news interviews of Southern Californians explaining how they will avoid a massive earthquake. They'll all get in their cars and hit the highways. Like they don't notice EVERY DAY that the highways are hopelessly clogged with only a fraction of the traffic. And they think the airports won't be closed. They think they can outrun an earthquake, all the way across the fault line.


Now I wonder: do sharks flock to earthquake or volcano, or away?

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Very true. Not really a worry for me though since I live in the center of the land mass that's virtually earthquake and hurricane free. At least for now. I don't even like going to downtown Milwaukee, let alone Chicago. I don't like being around that many people even in ideal conditions.

For me though, it's a mental thing. When I look at a map of Hawaii surrounded by that vast ocean, it I get claustrophobic just imagining it. I couldn't actually even visit Hawaii, let alone live there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You go to Milwaukee while you live in Indiana? Know somebody stuck there?

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I haven't been to Milwaukee in years. I used to live just south of it for about 5 years though, right around the time I joined this site.

I didn't mean anything bad about Milwaukee. I actually prefer it to Chicago if I absolutely HAD to go since it's not nearly as crowded. All I was saying is that I'm not a big city guy, and I have an aversion to big crowds.

I think the last time I was actually in Milwaukee was for Summerfest. Got to see Tom Petty and Eddie Vedder duet American Girl. Awesome concert. RIP Tommy boy. You will be missed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Well they don't call Milwaukee the armpit of Wisconsin for nothing.
The Interstate has been getting rebuilt to improve the flow of highway traffic. After Goobernator Doylie looting the Highway funds for his Decade, now Scott Walker is allowing roads to be built.

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You should watch news interviews of Southern Californians explaining how they will avoid a massive earthquake. They'll all get in their cars and hit the highways. Like they don't notice EVERY DAY that the highways are hopelessly clogged with only a fraction of the traffic. And they think the airports won't be closed. They think they can outrun an earthquake, all the way across the fault line.


Now I wonder: do sharks flock to earthquake or volcano, or away?

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Very true. Not really a worry for me though since I live in the center of the land mass that's virtually earthquake and hurricane free. At least for now. I don't even like going to downtown Milwaukee, let alone Chicago. I don't like being around that many people even in ideal conditions.

For me though, it's a mental thing. When I look at a map of Hawaii surrounded by that vast ocean, it I get claustrophobic just imagining it. I couldn't actually even visit Hawaii, let alone live there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You go to Milwaukee while you live in Indiana? Know somebody stuck there?

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I haven't been to Milwaukee in years. I used to live just south of it for about 5 years though, right around the time I joined this site.

I didn't mean anything bad about Milwaukee. I actually prefer it to Chicago if I absolutely HAD to go since it's not nearly as crowded. All I was saying is that I'm not a big city guy, and I have an aversion to big crowds.

I think the last time I was actually in Milwaukee was for Summerfest. Got to see Tom Petty and Eddie Vedder duet American Girl. Awesome concert. RIP Tommy boy. You will be missed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Well they don't call Milwaukee the armpit of Wisconsin for nothing.
The Interstate has been getting rebuilt to improve the flow of highway traffic. After Goobernator Doylie looting the Highway funds for his Decade, now Scott Walker is allowing roads to be built.

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I never really thought traffic around Milwaukee was all that bad, but even better for you if you guys and gals are getting an upgrade to the transit system there.

I spent the first 25 years of my life south of Chicago. Try getting anywhere during rush hour on 294 or 95th street. They're really trouble in Oak Lawn and Evergreen Park. 95th street has a 4-5 mile stretch that is 4 lanes long and you still get stuck in horrible traffic. Wasn't like that when I was a little kid, but you could never pay me to move back to the area I grew up in.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You're saying that L.A. is that bad, right? Not Milwaukee?

I really didn't drive on the expressway around Milwaukee much when I lived up there, but the side streets were wonderful compared to where I grew up. They were actually even better than where I am now, which still isn't all that bad compared to Chicago and at least the south/west suburbs.

I've never been to L.A. I can only imagine how bad it is out there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Had Milwaukee on the brain when you made your last post about "bubbling fountains of molten lava" and it made me think of Bubblers. I never did start calling water fountains Bubblers, but I'll be damned if 8 years after I moved from the Milwaukee area I'm not still calling pop "soda".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I just saw on the news today bubbling fountains of molten lava. The height of these continuous fountains was not stated, and I didn't see any reference to gauge size or height.

I don't recall such vividly displayed bubbling lava before.
Has there ever before been a lava spouting of this style, or duration, or pace, since the advancements of commonly available High Definition recording equipment?

Does anybody know the vertical distance these gouts are achieving?

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You mean earthquake fissures can't create new avenues for pressured magma to rise?

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Not an expert, but I doubt it. Earthquakes are an indication of a magma moving through the rock, and a reliable precursor to an eruption. Generally, as the magma rises to the surface, the earthquakes get more and more shallow. As the magma forces its way to the surface the rocks start to break and slip; that is the cause of the quakes.

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You should watch news interviews of Southern Californians explaining how they will avoid a massive earthquake. They'll all get in their cars and hit the highways. Like they don't notice EVERY DAY that the highways are hopelessly clogged with only a fraction of the traffic. And they think the airports won't be closed. They think they can outrun an earthquake, all the way across the fault line.

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Don't remind me, she growled, I live near LA.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Lo?ihi Seamount - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo?ihi_Seamount
Last eruption, February to August 1996.

SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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As of now it's over 200 homes. Just check out this site, the flow velocity is insane.
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1004458933891633152

In fact, I know you don't like ZH but they've got some awesome videos here:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-06/dramatic-footage-shows-hawai
i-lava-devastation-guatemala-death-toll-rises-after


I heard on NPR that the temperature of the outflowing lava is as high as you'd find in the mantle. it's flowing so quickly it doesn't even have time to cool down. That lava "fountain" that you see? It's over 200 feet high.

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