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Border Wall GoFundMe Turned Out To Be A Major Scam

POSTED BY: SHINYGOODGUY
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 08:47
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Monday, January 14, 2019 5:47 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Trumpturds Beware! SCAM ALERT - or, as it's better known Trump profit Alert!



BELOW IS THE TRANSCRIPT -

*This transcript was generated by a third-party transcription software company, so please excuse any typos.


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As the government shut down, continues over the fact that Donald Trump refuses to reopen it because he's not getting the funding for his border wall. It's important to remember that there actually is a little over $20,000,000 sitting out there waiting for Donald Trump to tap into it to build his border wall. The only problem is that that $20,000,000 sitting out there was a scam from the beginning. If you'll remember a couple weeks ago, a a veteran by the name of Brian Kolfage a started a Go Fund Me for the border wall and as of right now, he is actually raised a little more than $20,000,000. Shortly after he started this Go Fund Me project. It was revealed that this guy has actually been involved with scamming people, raising money, allegedly for one calls and then pocketing himself. Typically he would go out there and try to raise money for veterans causes and then he would pocket most of the money.

He also runs a Facebook page that is filled with conspiracy theories. So the guys, you know, not exactly on the level he is scammed people in the past and based on what we know now with his Go Fund Me, he is scanned people this time because he has said now that he knows, he realizes, he finally learned that you can't just raise money and give it to the government for them to do a project. So instead he is diverting all of that money to a new nonprofit group that he is starting with some pretty heavy hitters among the right wing world, uh, and the nonprofit is going to be called we build the wall. Here are some of the people that are going to be associated with coal phases. We build the wall. I'm Erik Prince, founder of Blackwater private, mercenary from a David Clark, the scandal plagued former sheriff of Milwaukee County Fox News contributor, Sarah Carter, Tom Tancredo, who according to the daily beast is an immigration hardliner, former Colorado congressman and of course former Kansas secretary of state and voter fraud, enthusiastic Kris Kobach.

Those are the people that this ordinary guy has somehow managed to recruit to start this new nonprofit that is already apparently sitting on about $20,000,000 now Go Fund Me because coalface has announced that he is not spending this money to directly build a wall, has already sent out notices to everyone who donated to this project, telling them that the money they donated as no longer going to go to what they donated it for and they can either respond and say, I want my money back. Or they can choose to not respond. In which case they will get their money back automatically. So at least Go Fund Me is out there saying, hey, we think you probably got scammed. You may want to take your money back from this guy. So or they could email and say, no, no, no. Let him keep it. Nonetheless. This guy has amassed a huge email lists that he is now going to be able to sell to right wing organizations, republican campaigns, and anyone that wants to purchase the email addresses of these exceptionally gullible Republicans who apparently had money to waste.




SGG

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Monday, January 14, 2019 6:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


When I last looked at the page when it was first posted here, it was not a "flexible goal", meaning that it had to be funded in full in order for any money to be paid out.

Unless that has changed, there is no $20,000,000.

Though I won't argue that the whole thing was a joke, I'm filing your OP here as fake news.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 14, 2019 7:39 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


They have a new plan at www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall
Instead of giving the money to the Federal Government to build a wall, the fundraisers will build the wall:

How are you actually building the wall? It is legal to do this? Do you have agreements from people to build on their land already?

We have a team of our nation's leading experts in Construction, National Security, Law, Finance and Politics. Our experts have researched and concluded that we can build the wall mile by mile for 50% of the current price that the US Government pays. We will utilize private property along the border in high trafficked areas to build our wall sections. We have landowners right now, lining up to have us build on their land because they are SICK of being threatened by cartels, sick of the crime, and sick of our government's inability to act. Your donations will fund this, and save lives with every mile we build. This is 100% LEGAL, its on private property and the landowners we are speaking to want the wall.

When do you start building?

We are estimating to break ground in months from now in Texas. Brian and the team is heading to Texas in the coming weeks to start talking with contractors, architects, and local law enforcement to begin finalizing the construction plans.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 14, 2019 9:29 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Still not listed as a flexible goal:

https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

You can't change that after the fact either. If you could, then it would be extremely easy for con artists to cut-and-run and scam people out of their money every single day.

What this means is, even though there has been $20.5 Million "raised", that is not real money until the full $1 Billion mark is hit, which is never going to happen. So all of these supposed plans are bullshit because there is no money.



You guys are getting suckered into a huge fake news ordeal. This guy is likely doing all of this as some sort of social experiment that's going to show how wacky you get over it when there was nothing to even consider in the first place. People will just believe it because they don't know how sites like gofundme work.


It's pretty much exactly like the recent article that came out and claimed that The Rock insulted whining millennials. I was going to post that article the other day but before I did I found out that the article was fake news and The Rock came out on his twitter feed and said so.

Word to the wise... It's time to stop posting he-said, she-said stuff and to do a bit of research before you do. I think in the next two years leading up to the election we're going to see a LOT more of this kind of thing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 14, 2019 9:49 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Posted at https://webuildthewall.us/

93 Percent of Donors Opt In to Viral Border Wall GoFundMe

January 14, 2019 02:38 PM Eastern Standard Time

www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190114005745/en/93-Percent-Donors-Opt
-Viral-Border-Wall


WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--In response to misleading media headlines suggesting that the viral Border Wall GoFundMe campaign launched by triple-amputee veteran Brian Kolfage had been ended and that all the money had been refunded, We Build the Wall Inc. has released data provided by GoFundMe as of 10:30 AM Eastern January 14, 2019. We Build the Wall Inc. will provide ongoing daily updates of opt-in/opt-out numbers received from GoFundMe and make them available at https://webuildthewall.us/ and social media.

"Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated," Brian Kolfage said in a statement. "Our team is thrilled with the positive response of our donors despite media attempts to confuse the situation. Before announcing the new plan, I worked closely with GoFundMe to make sure that we offered original donors a fair process to approve of the new plan that honors We Build the Wall Inc.'s spirit of disclosure, full transparency, and overall business ethics."

Of the 131,230 responses, 121,900 or 93.6% have chosen to back the new plan. Just 8,330 or 6.3% have chosen to receive an immediate refund. These total responses represent 40% of the 324,144 original contributors who are required to provide opt-in consent within 90 days from January 11, 2019.

Mr. Kolfage and We Build the Wall Inc. remain in good standing with GoFundMe and are continuing to use the platform www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall to raise additional money with the goal of raising more than a billion dollars. All new contributions received at www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall after the update on January 11, 2019 at 2pm Eastern are NOT subject to the opt-in requirements.

"More than one in three of our donors have already backed the new plan in the first 48 hours," We Build the Wall Advisory Board member and former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach said. "We've still got a lot of work to do but we are confident that as we roll out our plan, the momentum is only going to continue to accelerate."

We Build the Wall Inc. has also received approximately 3,500 plus checks which are presently being processed by a bonded and insured caging and escrow services provider. Donors are being notified by mail of new status update and their option to receive a full refund or opt in to We Build the Wall.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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We Build the Wall Inc. has also received approximately 3,500 plus checks which are presently being processed by a bonded and insured caging and escrow services provider. Donors are being notified by mail of new status update and their option to receive a full refund or opt in to We Build the Wall.


Until they raise another $979,000,000+ Million on GoFundMe, this is the only real money that's been given to this campaign.

Funny they would word it that way. 3,500+ "checks". Why not say how much money those checks were for?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


From the GoFundMe page:

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Can I get a refund in the future if you don't raise $1 billion?
You have 90 Days from Jan 11th to apply for a refund. After that 90 days any donations you make will not be refundable. The project is moving forward regardless of total raised, we are building wall sections therefore, the donation will not be refundable since the goal is being met.



If I were GoFundMe, I would be asking for clarification on this, along with a strongly worded warning that they might get their campaign taken down.

It seems to me that the organization is telling people here that they will only honor the GoFundMe terms of service for the next 90 days, and then they're going to break it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:32 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I was wrong. I admit it.

Kickstarter is all or nothing. Gofundme isn't.

Yup. These people are getting scammed. Can't build shit with $20 Million.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:47 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Kolfage founded "Build The Wall" to reelect Trump:

Brian Kolfage @BrianKolfage tweets
It will be better :) private sector does things right. Trump doesn’t have a wall and doesn’t look to be getting one.... u think he gets re-elected if Dems don’t give him a wall? Our option is the only option on the table
9:41 PM - 13 Jan 2019
https://twitter.com/BrianKolfage/status/1084686881525301249

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