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You'll get nothing and like it!

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
$4500 - no way. I wish but it's just too much.

$1000 - yes way. And no loans - that's just profiteering, gouging people when they're down.

Plus - I would add some kind of $ for rent or to renters to defray costs. If you're going to tell people to shelter in place, then they gotta have a home to shelter in place in.

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We have the money - just write the damn checks. Screw Lydnsey Graham. "I don't want to send people money. I want to get their jobs back so they can earn it." How the flip you going to do that? Cure the virus yourself?

IF WE DON'T SEND CASH and this goes past a month, we will start to see a spike in some serious crime. People will get desperate if they're locked up without the hope for income. More people going outside, contacting others for "work"... it'll get ugly.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... I think whatever the amount is, it's got to be the same for everyone.

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Do you have to sign up for the payments? Is there a form? How will the government know where to send the money? What if I've recently moved?

These are all important and — for now — unanswered questions. The federal government would have addresses for people who paid taxes, earned income or received government payments last year. But those could be out of date, especially for renters or people without stable residences, who are likely in most need of financial help during the crisis.

It's also unclear whether any final package would involve traditional checks mailed to Americans or whether direct deposits into bank accounts would be an option.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


(hmmmm.... isn't it strange that it's a guy who everyone knows his name? It could have literally been one of hundreds of other individuals who most Americans had never heard of before).

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Originally posted by JO753:
The money haz been broken for a long time. No connection to productiv work.
The current situation iz going to get worse and with Trump on the job its likely to get way worse.
Remember that Bush did a 'throw money at them' stimulous. It worked short term kuz we needed stuff, but the crash happened eventually anyway.
http://www.7532020.com .

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


I... HATE ALL MEDIA AND USE IT AS A JUSTIFICATION TO NOT KNOW ANY CURRENT EVENTS OR ANYTHING RELEVANT BECAUSE I BELIEVE I'M A GENIUS AND I COULD DO A BETTER JOB THAN EVERYONE ELSE ON THE WHOLE PLANET

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're the dumbest person talking to by far the smartest person left on these boards, save for possibly JO.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

You're the only one panicking here, dear-heart.

I'm 40 and in great health. I have everything I need and I don't give a shit if they ever pass the stimulus bill.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're the dumbest person talking to by far the smartest person left on these boards

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm 40 and in great health. I have everything I need and I don't give a shit if they ever pass the stimulus bill.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I probably already have it, dipshit. I've had a cold for the last week now.

Why don't you come up north so I can sneeze on you?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm 40 and in great health. I have everything I need and I don't give a shit if they ever pass the stimulus bill.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63571

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I probably already have it, dipshit. I've had a cold for the last week now.

Why don't you come up north so I can sneeze on you?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Just pointing out that you're lying, again.

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I'm 40 and in great health. I have everything I need and I don't give a shit if they ever pass the stimulus bill.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63571

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I probably already have it, dipshit. I've had a cold for the last week now.

Why don't you come up north so I can sneeze on you?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Just pointing out that you're lying, again.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It's not lying.

Anybody who gets a cold and thinks they're dying is an idiot.

I'm in great overall health, outside of a few sniffles. I might very well have COVID-19 right now and barely be feeling any effects from it.


I'll ask you again, why should I be scared?

My life isn't any different right now than it was 3 weeks ago, and I know it's extremely different for you right now, even if just by proxy through people you live with and care about in addition to all your panicking.

You're just salty that you're a lot closer to that "dangerous" age range and I'm not crying for you.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Whatever you say, psycho.


How's the air over there?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Unemployment Benefits

Who would be covered by the expanded program?

The new bill would wrap in far more workers than are usually eligible for unemployment benefits, including self-employed people and part-time workers. The bottom-line: Those who are unemployed, partially unemployed or who cannot work for a wide variety of coronavirus-related reasons would be more likely to receive benefits.

How much would I receive?

It depends on your state.

Benefits would be expanded in a bid to replace the average worker’s paycheck, explained Andrew Stettner, a senior fellow at the Century Foundation, a public policy research group. The average worker earns about $1,000 a week, and unemployment benefits often replace roughly 40 to 45 percent of that. The expansion would pay an extra amount to fill the gap.

Under the plan, eligible workers would get an extra $600 per week on top of their state benefit. But some states are more generous than others. According to the Century Foundation, the maximum weekly benefit in Alabama is $265, but it’s $450 in California and $681 in New Jersey.

So let’s say a worker was making $1,100 per week in New York; she’d be eligible for the maximum state unemployment benefit of $435 per week. Under the new program, she gets an additional $600 of federal pandemic unemployment compensation, for a total of $1,035, or nearly all of her original paycheck.

States have the option of providing the entire amount in one payment, or sending the extra portion separately. But it must all be done on the same weekly basis.

Are gig workers, freelancers and independent contractors covered in the bill?

Yes, self-employed people would be newly eligible for unemployment benefits.

Benefit amounts would be calculated based on previous income, using a formula from the Disaster Unemployment Assistance program, according to a congressional aide.

Self-employed workers would also be eligible for the additional $600 weekly benefit provided by the federal government.

What if I’m a part-time worker who lost their job because of a coronavirus reason, but my state doesn’t cover part-time workers. Would I still be eligible?

Yes. Part-time workers would be eligible for benefits, but the benefit amount and how long benefits would last depend on your state. They would also be eligible for the additional $600 weekly benefit.

What if I’ve been diagnosed with Covid-19 or I need to care for a family member who has?

If you’ve been diagnosed, are experiencing symptoms or are seeking a diagnosis — and you’re unemployed, partially unemployed or cannot work as a result — you would be covered. The same goes if you must care for a member of your family or household who has received a diagnosis.

What if my child’s school or day care shut down?

If you rely on a school, day care or another facility to care for a child, elderly parent or another household member so that you can work — and that facility has been shut down because of coronavirus — you would be eligible.

What if I’ve been advised by a health care provider to quarantine myself because of exposure to coronavirus? And what about broader orders to stay home?

People who must self-quarantine would be covered. The legislation also says that individuals who are unable to get to work because of a quarantine imposed as a result of the outbreak would also be eligible.

I was about to start a new job and now can’t get there because of an outbreak.

You’d be eligible for benefits. You would also be covered if you were immediately laid off from a new job and did not have a sufficient work history to qualify for benefits under normal circumstances.

I had to quit my job as a direct result of coronavirus. Would I be eligible to apply for benefits?

It depends. Let’s say your employer didn’t lay you off but you had to quit because of a quarantine recommended by a health care provider, or because your child’s day care closed and you’re the primary caregiver. Situations like that are covered.

But this provision wasn’t intended to cover people who quit (or want to quit) because they fear that continuing to work puts them at risk of contracting coronavirus, according to congressional aides.

My employer shut down my workplace because of coronavirus. Would I be eligible?

Yes. If you are unemployed, partially unemployed or unable to work because your employer closed down, you would be covered under the bill.

The breadwinner of my household has died as a result of coronavirus. I relied on that person for income, and I’m not working. Would that be covered?

Yes.

Who would the bill leave out?

Workers who are able to work from home, and those receiving paid sick leave or paid family leave would not be covered. New entrants to the work force who cannot find jobs would also be ineligible.

How long would the payments last?

Many states already provide 26 weeks of benefits, though some states have trimmed that back while others provide a sliding scale tied to unemployment levels.

The bill would provide all eligible workers with an additional 13 weeks. So participants in states with 26 weeks would be eligible for a total of 39 weeks. The total amount cannot exceed 39 weeks, but it may be shorter in certain states.

The extra $600 payment would last for up to four months, covering weeks of unemployment ending July 31.

How long would the broader program last?

Expanded coverage would be available to workers who were newly eligible for unemployment benefits for weeks starting on Jan. 27, 2020 and through Dec. 31, 2020.

My unemployment recently ran out — could I sign up again?

Yes. If you’ve exhausted your benefits, eligible workers could generally reapply. But how much you would get and for how long would depend on the state where you worked. Everyone would get at least another 13 weeks, along with the extra $600 payment.

Would this income disqualify me from any other programs?

Maybe. The additional $600 benefit would count as income when determining eligibility for means-tested programs, except for Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program, known as CHIP.

How long would I need to wait for benefits?

States have been incentivized to waive the one-week waiting period, but it’s unclear how long it would take to process claims — especially with state offices so strained by a flood of claims.

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Hey JO!

Seriously, buddy. File that unemployment.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-stimulus-package-questions
-answers.html (I pasted the entire part about Unemployment below)

I'm not sure how it will be done in Illinois yet, but I'm sure I'm going to be learning. My buddy asked me for help this weekend for his fiancee who is a bartender, and although I know my old man doesn't need help my step-mom is out of work now too, so I'm going to hear it from him too I'm sure. If you need any assistance, I can help you out with it.

Before the virus, Illinois had 26 weeks (1/2 year) at 47% of your previous average pay. (I'm sure this was calculated on something like the average of the first 4 of the last 5 quarters you worked there... but, even if you didn't work long enough to qualify under normal circumstances, the article below says that is being waived now and you would).

I don't know what you made, but just to make a point here let's say it was $10/hr. (I'm not being insulting with that number, but you did make it sound like it wasn't much of a job. You probably made more, especially living in Illinois, but $10 makes simple math).

$10 x 40/hr = $400 per week.
.47 x $400 = $188

So $188 would be your normal Weekly Benefit Amount, with $4,888 being your Maximum Benefit Amount (the full 26 weeks worth if you hadn't found a job).

Under the new program several things happen...

Each state, no matter how long their plan lasted gets an additional 13 weeks that the Federal Government is covering with the bill. So in Illinois it now goes up from 26 weeks to 39 weeks.

Now that would be $188 for 39 weeks for a Maximum Benefit Amount of $7,332.

But then, the Federal Government is offering an additional 4 Months of $600 on top of the regular payouts. So while that won't cover the full 39 weeks, it covers the first 16 of them.

So if you made $10/hr @ 40 hours a week, you'd be getting $788 per week for the first 16 weeks after your claim was processed and approved, and another $188 per week for the following 26 weeks for a maximum MBA of $16,932.


That's 14.11 times the amount of the Stimulus Check you're going to get that you're throwing away if you don't bother filing for unemployment because it's too much paperwork.

I dunno man. Sounds pretty good to me. That's more money than I've made in a year since 2009.

Let me know if you need any help and I'll see what I can do for you. I know the lines are bogged down and it's going to be hard for people to get assistance. At least it seems like they're trying to automate as much as they can online in Illinois like they've done in Indiana.

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Trump sharply criticized the congressman on Friday, saying in a pair of tweets that he "just wants the publicity" and should be thrown out of the Republican party.
"Looks like a third rate Grandstander named @RepThomasMassie, a Congressman from, unfortunately, a truly GREAT State, Kentucky, wants to vote against the new Save Our Workers Bill in Congress. He just wants the publicity. He can't stop it, only delay, which is both dangerous & costly," Trump tweeted.
"Workers & small businesses need money now in order to survive. Virus wasn't their fault. It is "HELL" dealing with the Dems, had to give up some stupid things in order to get the "big picture" done. 90% GREAT! WIN BACK HOUSE, but throw Massie out of Republican Party!," the President said.

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Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York told CNN on Wednesday that she might force a recorded vote, but the congresswoman ultimately did not, despite her criticism of the bill.
"But I think this bill has a lot of problems with it. And I'm extraordinary concerned about what Mitch McConnell has done," she said ahead of the vote. "I've had more constituents call concerned about this bill than in support of it. It's a very hard day. It's a very, very hard day for this body."

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We don't know how long it would take the IRS to send out all the money, but it would likely take weeks before the first payments start going out.

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said on Wednesday that the IRS would begin issuing payments within three weeks of the legislation being signed into law. The bill simply calls for payments to be made "as rapidly as possible."
But experts say it could take longer. In 2001, it took six weeks for the IRS to start sending out rebate checks under a new tax cut, and in 2008, it took three months after a stimulus package was signed into law.

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Mnuchin told reporters at the White House that there will be a web-based application for those who don't receive direct deposit. He also had a message for small businesses: "Go back and hire your workers because the government is paying you to do that."

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If the banks are eating it with the bailout money, sure...

But if landlords would have to chase that money for 2 or more months because their bills were coming due, that's not fair to them.

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But, I suppose you could also reduce the state income taxes and take it out of the taxes for education if you're forcing the kids to stay at home from school too.

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I can't wait to see how many people start (rightfully) losing their shit when they realize that while they're being forced to continue to work near-minimum wage jobs deemed "essential", their friends who were working near-minimum wage jobs that aren't get to sit at home and collect $600-$1,000 per week watching Netflix and jerking off.

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