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the G20 diminishes

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Monday, September 4, 2023 5:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Xi and Putin refuse to attend bc they don't want to be cornered by Biden*

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Monday, September 4, 2023 7:00 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

G-7 were the old gang, G-20 started to feel a bit like old British Commonon Wealth but then Putin attacks Ukraine with an invasion, Hindu India Nationalism guy is Chairman (Incumbent) then China sees itself as a power, France was always a pain the the ass then add Brazil, Indonesia, Argentina, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Turkey and its something of a disaster.

its over but maybe 'The Show Must Go On' and Ursula von der Leyen, Andrés Manuel López, Nirmala Sitharaman, Janet Yellen, Chrystia Freeland, Sri Mulyani and Christine Lagarde want to keep it all together.

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Monday, September 11, 2023 3:02 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Seems the USA and EU thought it could muscle a condemnation of Russia out of the G20 (especially with Xi's and Putin's absence), but the best they could manage was a "Well, different nations hold different ideas" in the final text.

Apparently the USA and EU felt that if they hadn't conceded to such a weak final statement, many attendees would have left, and the G20 would have become irrelevant compared to the BRICS.

Looks like the world is waking up to the idea of emperors walking around naked.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM

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Monday, September 11, 2023 5:50 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

There seems to be some condemnation of something violent but without exact name

Australia, Canada, jihadist islamist Saudi Arabia, United States and India, Russia, South Africa, Turkey and Argentina, Brazil, Mexico and the French, Germany, Italy, the British and China, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea.

The G20 leaders have agreed a joint declaration, Narendra Modi announced on Saturday, alleviating fears that disagreements over the Russia-Ukraine war would prevent a consensus for the first time.

Speaking at an afternoon session of the G20 summit in Delhi, the Indian prime minister said he had “just got the good news that due to the hard work of our teams and your cooperation, a consensus has been reached on the New Delhi G20 leaders’ summit declaration”.

To loud applause, Modi said the declaration had been officially adopted.

He said it meant this year’s G20 was “the most ambitious in the history of G20. With 112 outcomes and presidency documents, we have more than doubled the substantive work from previous presidencies”.

However, there was a noticeable softening of the language around Russia’s role in the Ukraine war compared to last year. All references to Russia, Russian aggression and Russia’s withdrawal in relation to the war in Ukraine that featured in last year’s joint statement at the G20 summit in Bali were removed.

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Instead, the declaration emphasised that states must “refrain from the threat or use of force to seek territorial acquisition” and that “the use or threat of use of nuclear weapons is inadmissible”.

Amitabh Kant, India’s G20 representative, said there was “100% consensus from all countries” on all 83 paragraphs in the declaration.

According to Kant, in order to reach a consensus, there was over 200 hours of “very tough, very ruthless negotiations”. Kant said that Brazil and South Africa, the next two G20 presidents, had played a key role in getting Russia to agree to the language, as well as Indonesia, Turkey and Mexico. A senior EU official said that by Saturday, Russia was “cornered” in the negotiations.

The declaration signifies a major win for India, which holds this year’s G20 presidency. It has been a particularly challenging year for the group, which represents the world’s largest economies, as Russia and China had proved intransigent in discussions around the Ukraine war, climate and energy, derailing attempts for a consensus in previous ministerial meetings.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/09/g20-leaders-agree-joint-
declaration-after-deal-on-ukraine-statement

Arab League welcomes African Union's membership in G20

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/africa/article/2001481237/arab-league-
welcomes-african-unions-membership-in-g20

'Why The African Union Should Be Dismantled And Buried With Gaddafi'

https://www.e-ir.info/2015/12/20/why-the-african-union-should-be-disma
ntled-and-buried-with-gaddafi/

The Arab league some dictators and jihads and islamists, North African parts and the Middle East, a regional organization in the Arab world, which is located in North Africa, West Asia, and part of East Africa. Egyppt wanted to build a diplomatic something, perhaps an ok idea on paper long, long ago Alexandria Protocol was an agreement signed October 1944, in Alexandria, by five Arab countries agreeing to the formation of a joint Arab Organization, which led to the formation of the League of Arab States in the following year, 5 observer states observer states have been invited to participate during select Arab League sessions, but do not hold voting privileges, Armenia, Brazil, Eritrea, India, Venezuela, many are offended by Israel and see Recognition of Palestinian State only.

March 2014, the former Australian foreign minister Julie Bishop, when Australia was hosting the 2014 G20 summit in Brisbane, proposed to ban Russia from the summit over its annexation of Ukrainian Crimea. The BRICS foreign ministers subsequently reminded Bishop that "the custodianship of the G20 belongs to all Member States equally and no one Member State can unilaterally determine its nature and character."

the Polish government has repeatedly asked to join the G20

Permanent guest invitees? the country of Spain with their cultural Empire? United Nations (UN) World Bank Group (WBG) World Health Organization (WHO) World Trade Organization (WTO) and 'ASEAN' In line with Norway's emphasis on inclusive international processes, the United Nations, and the UN system, in a 2010 interview with Der Spiegel, the current prime minister of Norway Jonas Gahr Støre called the G20 "one of the greatest setbacks since World War II"
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,702104,00.html

In 2012, Tim Ferguson wrote in Forbes that swapping Argentina for Poland should be considered

U.S. President Joe Biden called for the removal of Russia from the group. Alternatively, he suggested that Ukraine be allowed to attend the G20 2022 summit, despite its lack of membership. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau also said the group should "re-evaluate" Russia's participation
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/russia-g20-trudeau-1.6404249

Trudeau says G20 leaders’ condemnation of Russia not strong enough - National
https://globalnews.ca/news/9950973/9950973-justin-trudeau-wanted-stron
ger-russia-condemnation-from-g20-leaders/

PM Modi flags continuing ‘anti-India activities’ in Canada to PM Trudeau
https://www.livemint.com/news/world/pm-narendra-modi-flags-continuing-
anti-india-activities-in-canada-to-pm-justin-trudeau-11694364402632.html

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Wednesday, November 20, 2024 8:29 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Biden, Brics, Apec and G20

‘He’s behind the palm tree …Oh my God’: Bumbling Joe Biden MIA during G20 ‘family photo’
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2024/11/19/hes-behind-the-palm-tree-oh-my
-god-bumbling-joe-biden-mia-during-g20-family-photo-1503779/

At APEC and G20, Biden faces leaders worried about US policy changes
https://www.voanews.com/a/at-apec-and-g20-biden-faces-leaders-worried-
about-us-policy-changes/7863428.html

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Thursday, November 21, 2024 9:03 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Biden won’t talk about what happened in Rio

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/19/biden-avoids-public-mention-o
f-trump-during-foreign-trip-00190542

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