Galaxy Day? Or Universe Day? by JEWELSTAITEFAN

REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Galaxy Day? Or Universe Day?

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Saturday, June 29, 2024 15:17
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 276
PAGE 1 of 1

Tuesday, May 14, 2024 8:43 PM

I don't recall if I already mentioned this topic here before.

Most of us are aware, when we wake in the morning, which direction is East. And which direction the Sun rose at Dawn.

Sol is the center of the Solar System.

So, which direction is the center of the Milky Way - our Galaxy? Or the center of The Universe?

If The Big Bang Theory is valid, then the reason the Universe is expanding constantly is because it is moving farther outward from the center, the singularity before TBBT.

The Galaxy is also expanding. And moving farther apart from the Galaxies closer to the Center of The Universe.

Once we can determine which direction the center of the Galaxy is, then we can commemorate the day when Terra is closest - or, when Terra is between Sol and Center of the Galaxy.
If this cannot be fathomed to within 1 degree of orbital plane (about 1 day of arc), then at least 1/12th of the Solar System plane can narrow it down to a Month. Or maybe even a week. Then, around midnight we can all look up and see the direction of the Center. And 6 months later, we would be looking at the outer portions, the rim of the Galaxy.

Same for the Universe.

I forgot to look into a Southern Star. Polaris is not visible from the Southern Hemisphere, is it?

Does anybody alredy know the answer? Which day of the year is Center of the Galaxy day?

I've heard so-called experts say there is no center of the Galaxy, or Center of The Universe. Does this mean that there really was no singularity from which all matter banged from?

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, May 15, 2024 12:26 AM

ANONYMOUS1

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

The Big Bang Theory

I loved that show. Very rewatchable”

;)

I don’t know the answers to your questions.

I did not know or forgot that there were southern lights as well as northern lights.

I know that where I live if I point my right arm east where the sun came up…I am facing north…my left arm is pointing west and my back is facing south.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, May 15, 2024 1:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

If there was "a" center from which the universe was expanding, then if we looked toward that center those stars would be approaching us, or at least we wouldn't be moving away from them as quickly as if we looked in the other direction.

But if I understand astronomers correctly, stars appear to be moving away from us all at the same speed, no matter which direction we look. And the farthest stars seem to be moving away from us the fastest. That would put us in the center of the universe.

None of that makes sense to me.

-----------
"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, May 15, 2024 2:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If there was "a" center from which the universe was expanding, then if we looked toward that center those stars would be approaching us, or at least we wouldn't be moving away from them as quickly as if we looked in the other direction.

But if I understand astronomers correctly, stars appear to be moving away from us all at the same speed, no matter which direction we look. And the farthest stars seem to be moving away from us the fastest. That would put us in the center of the universe.

None of that makes sense to me.

I doubt very much that we're the center of the universe.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, May 20, 2024 10:36 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

We are one of the dots sitting inside that Froth on a cup of coffee as it whirls and stirs if that makes sense

The center seems to be called Sagittarius A* somewhat obscured by all the gas and dust of the Milky Way but seen by Hubble and other X-ray and Infra-Red and radio Telescopes it is thought to be the supermassive black hole at the Galactic Center of the Milky Way, it is a very very bight but somewhat invisible energy source, stars bigger than our Sun are whirled and flung around it, theer are also a bunch of Unexplained powerful gamma rays from the 'galactic center' Sagittarius is one of the constellations of the zodiac and is located in the Southern celestial hemisphere, in the Northern hemisphere you look up and away from the Galaxy at the South you somewhat look down and into our Galaxy.

You can ask an assistant AI or robot or Alexa or a Chatbot this stuff these days without having to do any math study.

Quote:
Originally posted by ANONYMOUS1:

I did not know or forgot that there were southern lights as well as northern lights.

The recent solar storm put on a big show on both sides of our planet, some great photographs out there!

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I doubt very much that we're the center of the universe.

evidence says we are not and its a good thing guys like Giordano Bruno are no longer set on fire

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

None of that makes sense to me.

Cosmology is a mess, it at times is more of a philosophy rather than Astronomy or Physics where these sciences are grounded in real science

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I've heard so-called experts

Were these schizophrenic voices in your head, maybe a dream of Israelis and Moses and Pyramids? what experts?

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Polaris is not visible from the Southern Hemisphere, is it?

it is good you can admit your stupidity

The Earth bows a little and leans away as it orbits the Sun so Polaris can be seen a tiny bit below the equator from 1.23° south latitude

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Which day of the year is Center of the Galaxy day?

I think you should go back to your Flat Earth Caveman Israel Zionist Pallywoodshit, its far more suitable for you

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I forgot to look into a Southern Star.

Did you know a 60 IQ Native Aboriginal wandering in Australian sand is more intelligent than you?

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, May 20, 2024 10:57 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Yes, I was looking for that word: cosmology. Thank you.

One observation that causes so much confusion is the "red shift". To explain what that is:

Stars have certain elements in them, notably hydrogen but also helium and heavier elements. These elements are "glowing hot", but elements don't glow across the spectrum uniformly. Each element glows in specific frequencies that have fixed relationships to each other and to other elements. For example, here is the hydrogen specturm:

When looking at the spectrum of other stars, observers have identified elements in the stars from their spectral lines, but also note that the spectra are shifted towards lower energy/ longer wavelength, called the "red shift". So called because in the visible spectrum that means all of the colors are shifted to the red end. Violet shifts to nlue, blue shifts to green, green shifts to yellow, yellow to orange, and red goes to infrared (heat) and becomes invisible to our eyes.

The other observation is that the farther away a star is, the more pronounced the "red shift".

One explanation for a red shift is that the stars are moving away from us. In much the same way as a train whistle sounds higher-pitched (shorter wavelength) when moving towards us, but lower pitched (longer wavelength) when moving AWAY [corrected]
from us, the wavelenghths are "compressed" like a slinky when the emitter is moving towards something, and "stretched out" like a slinky when moving away from something.

Combining the explanation for "red shift" (movement away) with the observation that star spectra are red shifted, the furthest away being the most red shifted, leads to the idea that the universe is expanding in all directions (amazingly, we seem to be atvghe center), the furthest away moving the fastest, the "Big Bang" theory and all that. And to bring the calculated velocities into our models, cosmologists have had to come up what we chemists called "fudge factors": dark matter AND dark energy! Factors that make the equations some out right.

It is an article of faith (this is where religion comes in) among cosmologists and scientists in general that this red shift is caused by, and can ONLY be caused by, relative velocities.

Nobody seems to wonder whether the "red shift" might be brought about by something other than motion away from the viewer. But one obvious explanation, altho it doesn't fit into our current scientific model, is that something else is occurring during transmission across the universe. Something we don't know about. Some form of interaction throughout space that "drags" on electromagnetic pulses and stretches them out. And the more space it travels thru, the more the pulses get stretched out.

What that might be, I DONT KNOW. But considering we don't know what gravity REALLY is, or how repulsive forces work (how do you push on a string?) or even magnetism, can we really rule out some interaction we haven't figured out yet?

It seems to me that when you have to write in so many corrections to your model, no matter how useful it's been in other situations, you really need to look at a new model. But bc scientists don't have an inkling of what that might be, they're still polishing the old one.

-----------
"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Wednesday, May 22, 2024 7:01 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thanks for all of the replies.

I'll have more when I get time.

The Southern Cross was what I had been thinking of, but that was so long ago that I had forgotten.

So the Center of Galaxy is between Sagittarius and Scorpio. Which seems to be almost opposite Polaris - so Polaris must be almost viewing the outer rim of the Galaxy.

More later.

But lots more has been found out in the past couple decades than what places like wiki will state.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, June 29, 2024 3:17 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Thanks for all of the replies.

I'll have more when I get time.

The Southern Cross was what I had been thinking of, but that was so long ago that I had forgotten.

So the Center of Galaxy is between Sagittarius and Scorpio. Which seems to be almost opposite Polaris - so Polaris must be almost viewing the outer rim of the Galaxy.

More later.

But lots more has been found out in the past couple decades than what places like wiki will state.

The other part - the Center of The Galaxy, is also somewhat known. The exact center is unknown, because gobs of space dust block the view, which is what looks like "Milky Way" and gives the Galaxy it's name. I have seen photos of this. So, somebody knows which direction the Center of the Galaxy is, but we just cannot see it.
Once more info is obtained, we should be able to ascertain which direction it is in.

I don't currently know which direction this is in.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

YOUR OPTIONS

SHARE THREAD

NEW POSTS TODAY

USER	POST DATE

USER

POST DATE