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Obama's picks: 3 quitters, 3 tax cheats and 2 more conflict of interest.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:02 PM
STORYMARK
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:04 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: rue - You're a fucking idiot. I said, and you clearly can read, that before March '08, there were perhaps 6 strikes in 4 years. You're intentionally being a dick head for the sake of arguing this NON point. For jesus fucking christ's sake, STOP BEING AN ASSHOLE! It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager " They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:05 PM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Oh, see, I thought your point was "... we rarely bombed Pakistani territory
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: The point trying to be made was that bombing Pakistan was routine Ahh, but that was not a word she used, monami.Quote: Obama campaigned on a promise to NOT be such a " war monger" as WI...don't seem to recall him saying "I will not be such a war monger as President Bush." Can you provide a link for that- you DO always back up your claims as you say, right? In fact, I seem to remember in his campaign that he specifically stated that he'd allow pursuit & attack of terrorists into Pakistan if need be (The one part I vehemently disagreed with myself). Oh, and you are a gutless bloody wonder, sir. The laughing Chrisisall
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: The point trying to be made was that bombing Pakistan was routine
Quote: Obama campaigned on a promise to NOT be such a " war monger" as W
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: So go fuck yourself. You truly are a miserable piece of shit.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:09 PM
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Mike
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Obama had just run a campaign saying he was going to do things differently, and then he goes about doing THE EXACT SAME THING AS HE CRITICIZED OF BUSH!!!
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Chris - I'm not going to provide any links, for the point was well made, and so what if Obama didn't EXACTLY say anything about war mongering, it's the summation of his message, hell, of his entire campaign.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Mike - Go fuck off and die a miserable death. Once again, you're comparing apples to oranges, and this is fucking BULLSHIT,
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Yes, AuRetard, you ARE such a stickler about words and their exact usage - at least when it comes to your idiot king Bush. "He never lied! He never said Iraq was a threat! He never actually uttered the words!" Show me where Obama said he was never going to allow strikes into Pakistan. Show me the words. Mike "It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: So, if Obama didn't exactly say that, and yet you'll hold him accountable for what you thought he meant.... well golly, that just leaves your idol Dubya hangin in the wind, don't it.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Chris - I'm not going to provide any links, for the point was well made, and so what if Obama didn't EXACTLY say anything about war mongering, it's the summation of his message, hell, of his entire campaign. I know Chris already beat me to it, but this is just too damned funny to pass up. So, if Obama didn't exactly say that, and yet you'll hold him accountable for what you thought he meant.... well golly, that just leaves your idol Dubya hangin in the wind, don't it. You are so pathetic. I love it! B]
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I'm right, and you're just too much of an asshole partisan to admit it.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: RUE...we've not shelled ANY Pakistani cities,
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:36 PM
KIRKULES
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Gawd, you're an idiot. I never said they were from " LAST YEAR ". The whole god damn point was that we haven't been bombing Pakistan , routinely, around the clock , often or a lot, any fucking way you want to look at it. Attacks were RARE !!! HK tried to imply that , now that Obama is in office, we SUDDENLY are hearing about attacks, when before, we NEVER heard of them.. WE HEARD OF THEM, but not so often because they RARELY HAPPENED. Obama had just run a campaign saying he was going to do things differently, and then he goes about doing THE EXACT SAME THING AS HE CRITICIZED OF BUSH!!! Add to the fact that this was just AFTER his Immaculation, and the MSM's orgy fest of covering the new crowned King, it was OBVIOUSLY BIG NEWS! Put things into perspective, for once, My god, you folks are beyond help.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: RUE...we've not shelled ANY Pakistani cities, Again, links please? The laughing Chrisisall
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Nor villages ? Refugee camps ? Really ? More importantly - can you prove that ? *************************************************************** Silence is consent.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:41 PM
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:43 PM
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2007/02/us_launches_art.html
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by rue: Nor villages ? Refugee camps ? Really ? More importantly - can you prove that ? *************************************************************** Silence is consent. Yes, really. ASSHOLE. It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager " They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:49 PM
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:52 PM
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Story , YOU prove it. It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager " They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Story , YOU prove it. It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager " They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. " Fuck that. I never claimed to have proof. You did. Put up or shut up, bitch. "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:05 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: "March , 2008. Just last spring, where as HK was saying we've been bombin' there for YEARS." Here you want to exclude after spring 08. "Prior to Spring of '08 ..." Here you want to exclude after spring 08, again.
Quote: What you are saying it that it didn't happen for years - except, well, it did; and it wasn't routine - except, at a certain point, it was. As usual, you are trying to cherry pick your 'facts' by restricting which times you want to include. And which is what makes your arguments so hi-larious.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:38 PM
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Not really. And I've noticed you keep trying to shave off periods to make your point. You keep trying to get us to ignore facts just b/c YOU want to ignore them. *************************************************************** Silence is consent.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:10 PM
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kirkules: I dare anyone to read this entire thread again and not want to themselves.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:15 PM
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: But you say it was "rare" when Bush did it, yet seem to imply that Obama doing it ONCE is somehow less "rare" than Bush doing it some dozen times.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:26 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Seriously, folks, I'm interested in what you all think these appointees mean big picture or little picture. We could discuss how bad they would be/ are going to be, and if not that, why they're good selections despite the obvious problems. And similar.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 6:04 PM
Quote: I'm not trying to "distort" your words; I'm asking you to clarify your position. Why do you say that Bush doing something a dozen or more times is "rare" when Obama doing it once it "just more of the same"? Mike
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 6:56 PM
BYTEMITE
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: As I've noted elsewhere, folks who fail to file their taxes correctly aren't going to get much support from the career civil service, who would risk firing and possible jail time for such actions. It's gonna be especially rough on Treasury, since World Bank employees are well known in IRS circles for fraudulently not paying self-employment tax on their income, like the new Treasury Secretary didn't. "Keep the Shiny side up"
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 9:29 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Clinton's lies weren't about sex, they were about perjury. God, you just can't stop reaching, no matter how stupid it makes you look. The lies were about sex, that WAS the perjury. He didn't lie about perjury, you halfwit.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Clinton's lies weren't about sex, they were about perjury.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 10:05 PM
HKCAVALIER
Wednesday, February 4, 2009 2:49 AM
Wednesday, February 4, 2009 3:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: So the lesson here is: 1) Don't answer, or give the Reagan "I don't recall" answer, which isn't technically a *lie*, because how can they know whether or not you remember something? Hell, how many times did "Fredo" Gonzalez use that old standard in his testimony? At one point, he couldn't even recall whether or not he could recall something! 2) Refuse to be put under oath, like Bush & Cheney. Just say no! If you're not under oath, you can lie under oath. Thus, you can't be impeached! Mike "It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
Wednesday, February 4, 2009 3:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Obama has 3 choices quit on him,tax cheaters and somehow this has something to do w/ Reagan, Bush and Cheney ??
Wednesday, February 4, 2009 5:23 AM
DREAMTROVE
Quote:HK And in this case, lying under oath about whether or not he had sex with someone.
Wednesday, February 4, 2009 5:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: Wish I had enough money that I could forget receiving over $100,000.00 a year.
Quote:Where was the Right-wing outrage when Dubya apppointed John Negroponte, well known for looking the other way when it came to death squads and human rights abuses while he was ambassador to Hondouras, as our ambassador to Iraq and other high ranking posts in the Bush administration ? Was he the only man capable of holding those positions ? Apparently Dubya thought so and it was all rubber stamped by the Repo controlled congress. Of course many on the Right still consider Ollie North and G. Gordon Liddy as upright citizens...in spite of their crimes. A tax infraction seems like small spuds by comparison.
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