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No, it wasn't. That was just the will of the extreme, very far Left. Thankfully, we're not that country.

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or not do business with any, if I so choose

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I'm unhappy at Bush ignoring the will of the people when it came to immigration.

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don't use any electricity, natural gas, water, gasoline, or diesel. Don't communicate. Don't use any software. Don't watch TV or listen to radio. Don't buy any food. Don't get medical care. Don't buy any cars, furniture, appliances ... or anything else, for that matter. Don't use currency. Don't bank. For God's sake, DON'T trade stocks, corporate bonds, or anything else! Don't work for a big business.

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Again, polls are meaningless when they're asking the wrong questions and misleading the issue.

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No amount of opinion polls can convince me that the Gov't has the right to a piece of my life so as to give to another person.

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Drum up 1000 different polls, if you want, I'm not buying it. No amount of opinion polls can convince me that the Gov't has the right to a piece of my life so as to give to another person. That's what this is all about.

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And you set up a false premise when you say... "don't use any electricity, natural gas, water, gasoline, or diesel. Don't communicate. Don't use any software. Don't watch TV or listen to radio. Don't buy any food. Don't get medical care. Don't buy any cars, furniture, appliances ... or anything else, for that matter. Don't use currency. Don't bank. For God's sake, DON'T trade stocks, corporate bonds, or anything else! Don't work for a big business."
That is simply beyond absurdity and has no part in the discussion at hand. I have to take, from what I see YOU say, that all these things should be provided by 1 source, that being the Gov't., right ?

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We fuck them up, we do have some social obligation to clean them up and stand them up. Even if there's no possible way for them to recover from what they've seen and experienced and how they've been trained.

It would be better if we didn't have any wars, IMO, but since that isn't the case now, if the chessmasters can actually be convinced to throw the peons some medical care, I'm not going to argue that. I will argue the former though.

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Now, as far as I've seen, "net neutrality" means the big bad government would be involved in your internet access only to the degree that they'd be there telling corporations they can't interfere with your internet access. I'm sure that's a sinister plot in someone's book...

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Now, as far as I've seen, "net neutrality" means the big bad government would be involved in your internet access only to the degree that they'd be there telling corporations they can't interfere with your internet access. I'm sure that's a sinister plot in someone's book...

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Now, as far as I've seen, "net neutrality" means the big bad government would be involved in your internet access only to the degree that they'd be there telling corporations they can't interfere with your internet access. I'm sure that's a sinister plot in someone's book...

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Well, y'know... If you get right down to it, the Constitution itself is kinda the government telling you what you can and can't do, too. I'm surprised more people don't have a problem with that. ;)

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Other than the fact that Medicate is a unmitigated disaster ?

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corporations are do-gooders, and have only ever done what was in the best interests of Americans. Y'know, things like polluting lakes and rivers so much that they caught fire, and if you happened to fall in one of them, you'd be rushed to the emergency room.

Rappy thinks of that kind of treatment as a public service, no doubt...

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Irony being if a Republican was in the White House, Rappy would be going on about how necessary it is for the Gov. to be involved in the internet for security reasons.

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The truth hurts, boyo.

Anyone who's been around here long enough knows you'll bend over backwards to justify ANYTHING a Republican Admin does - and vilify everything a Democrat Admin does.

So, you're right, it IS nonsense - but it's Rappy's own brand of nonsense.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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