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Pat Caddell - Stunned at media cover up re: Benghazi

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:48 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Keep contorting, sooner or later you will be able to pull your head out of your ass.





Only a person who is so disconnected from reality, from the facts, could offer up such an empty, mindless non sequitur insult like that.

Fact is, you're denying that this admin is covering up, because of your ingrained prejudices and delusions,that this man, Obama, actually cares about this country and wants it to succeed. He doesn't.


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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:11 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Let me post this again, lets see if you can respond to any of it.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/29/right-wing-hysteria-o
ver-benghazi-feeds-upon-itself
/

"Obama’s crime is said to be so heinous that mere impeachment for refusing to intervene would be insufficient. If you Google the words “Benghazi” and “traitor,” you get some 518,000 hits, almost all of which cast President Obama as that traitor. The criticism extends as well to the mainstream media, which as my email informs me, is being accused of covering up a scandal of such dimensions that it would supposedly dwarf Watergate.

But I have a question.

According to NBC News, Mitt Romney hasn’t mentioned Libya in his campaign appearances around the country since Oct. 12, which is more than two weeks ago. Now why do you think that is?

Option one: Mitt has joined the mainstream media as part of the pro-Obama conspiracy of silence to protect the president.

Option two. Romney’s military and foreign affairs advisers have told him that not even a minimally responsible case can be made that Obama should have intervened militarily at Benghazi, and that Romney would deeply embarrass himself by suggesting such a step.

Let’s be clear: There is no indication — none — that U.S military officials advised the president or anyone in the administration that a rescue operation was possible, and that the administration ignored that offer. The evidence is entirely to the contrary."

"“U.S. officials say (the team) did not arrive in Sicily until after the attack was over,” CBS reports. “Even if the team had been ready in time, confusion about what was happening on the ground in Benghazi — and State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty — made a military rescue mission impractical, the officials say.”

Arguing against mass and willful hysteria using facts, logic and expert professional opinion is a losing battle, of course. It doesn’t matter that our top military people believed a rescue effort would be impractical and would probably end in the loss of even more American lives. What matters is that talk-show hosts and others can stir up millions of Americans raised on Rambo movies to believe that their leaders could have helped to rescue a well-respected U.S. diplomat and his team, but simply decided it wasn’t worth the effort. Because the president is a traitor."



Plus you have yet to cite any evidence of a cover up. Remember Op-Ed pieces are not evidence. Unfortunately for you and yours continuing to scream the scream that the sky is falling does not mean that it is.

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:24 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Let me post this again, lets see if you can respond to any of it.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/29/right-wing-hysteria-o
ver-benghazi-feeds-upon-itself
/

Plus you have yet to cite any evidence of a cover up. Remember Op-Ed pieces are not evidence. Unfortunately for you and yours continuing to scream the scream that the sky is falling does not mean that it is.


Did you just link an Op-Ed piece to debunk Auraptors Op-Ed piece whilst you decry Op-Ed pieces?

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:34 AM

M52NICKERSON

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Quote:

Originally posted by BIGDAMNNOBODY:
Did you just link an Op-Ed piece to debunk Auraptors Op-Ed piece whilst you decry Op-Ed pieces?



No I posted an op-ed piece that points out how ridiculous all this is right now.

You really don't have to debunk something that has yet to be back up with any type of solid evidence. That whole burden of proof is a pain sometimes.


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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:44 AM

AURAPTOR

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Pointless to respond to a left wing columnist's inane drivel about what Mitt has or hasn't done. He's running a campaign, not a inquiry against Obama. Maybe Mitt feels those questions will be best addressed when he's in office himself.

And it's funny that you claim I've not cited any evidence of a cover up. The fact that the WH is a part of a cover up would itself be an indication that they were indeed COVERING UP details of what took place( as well as their ever changing story ) despite reports on the ground to the contrary.




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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:57 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Pointless to respond to a left wing columnist's inane drivel about what Mitt has or hasn't done. He's running a campaign, not a inquiry against Obama. Maybe Mitt feels those questions will be best addressed when he's in office himself.

And it's funny that you claim I've not cited any evidence of a cover up. The fact that the WH is a part of a cover up would itself be an indication that they were indeed COVERING UP details of what took place( as well as their ever changing story ) despite reports on the ground to the contrary.



Reports that are from those famous "unnamed sources"? Really this it one of your more delutional posts. Your argument is that the WH is covering something up, so they must be covering something up.

HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH...

You have no evidence. The stories the rigth are comming up with are getting more and more moronic. Plus now the President and his administration are being lauded regarding their responce Sandy by Chris Christie. Makes it even harder to believe any story about the President being inept in responding to emergencies. Without that things the right wing talking heads are saying make even less sense.

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:25 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Pointless to respond to a left wing columnist's inane drivel...



So is it equally pointless to respond to a right-wing news channel's inane drivel?

Quote:


And it's funny that you claim I've not cited any evidence of a cover up. The fact that the WH is a part of a cover up would itself be an indication that they were indeed COVERING UP details of what took place( as well as their ever changing story ) despite reports on the ground to the contrary.




Congrats - you've gone deep into PN territory now. Anyone who questions the cover-up must be part of the cover-up!






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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:05 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You probably didn't bother watching the video, and have no clue who Pat Caddell is, his political history, and WHY this is so significant.



Pat Caddell, former Democratic pollster and consultant, part of the Carter White House. Had a massive falling out with the Democrats and has been on a Anti-Democratic rampage ever since. Is now a conservative in everything but name.

His only significance is that Fox gets to have him on and pretend they are talking to a liberal.



Oddly, you left out THIS paragraph, from your intro into Pat Caddell bashing ...

He has worked for Democratic presidential candidates George McGovern in 1972, Jimmy Carter in 1976 and 1980, Gary Hart in 1984, Joe Biden in 1988, and Jerry Brown in 1992. He also worked for Colorado Senate candidate Andrew Romanoff in 2010.[1]

As recently as 2010, he was working for a Democrat. I'd say he's still a life-long Democrat, in the traditional sense. While it says he left the party , it may be more accurate to say the party left HIM.

Sorry, but your attempt to Saul Alinksy him, because of him being one Democrat who actually still HAS a soul, and won't play by the extreme, hard core Left's games, has failed.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:21 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
While it says he left the party , it may be more accurate to say the party left HIM.



That's because he is only a Democrat in name.

Oh you should also note that Caddell was fired by Andrew Romanoff, the Democrat he was working for. Why? "Caddell called the SEIU "thugs" and said environmentalists were out to "deconstruct capitalism.""

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33058.html

OOPPS, you fail again!

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Sorry, but your attempt to Saul Alinksy him, because of him being one Democrat who actually still HAS a soul, and won't play by the extreme, hard core Left's games, has failed.




Who is this "Alinksy" person I keep hearing about from the right? Is he related to Ayn Rand in any way?

As for denigrating someone who is supposedly still a member of your party, what would you call what's being said about Colin Powell by the hardcore right wing of the GOP? Would you say they're trying to "Alinksy" him because he's one Republican who still HAS a soul?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:34 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


If you want to talk about people who are still members of parties lets talk about this Chris Christie fellow.

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
While it says he left the party , it may be more accurate to say the party left HIM.



That's because he is only a Democrat in name.

Oh you should also note that Caddell was fired by Andrew Romanoff, the Democrat he was working for. Why? "Caddell called the SEIU "thugs" and said environmentalists were out to "deconstruct capitalism.""

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33058.html

OOPPS, you fail again!



How do I *fail*, even a little? SIEU ARE thugs. Many enviro-nazis ARE out to deconstruct capitalism. Even a life long Democrat ( not hard core Leftist ) can see that.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:21 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Sorry, but your attempt to Saul Alinksy him, because of him being one Democrat who actually still HAS a soul, and won't play by the extreme, hard core Left's games, has failed.




Who is this "Alinksy" person I keep hearing about from the right? Is he related to Ayn Rand in any way?




Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 – June 12, 1972) was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing...

He is often noted for his book Rules for Radicals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:46 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
How do I *fail*, even a little? SIEU ARE thugs. Many enviro-nazis ARE out to deconstruct capitalism. Even a life long Democrat ( not hard core Leftist ) can see that.



HAHAAHAHAHAHA....there is another quote to submit.

Thank you!

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:47 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Sorry, but your attempt to Saul Alinksy him, because of him being one Democrat who actually still HAS a soul, and won't play by the extreme, hard core Left's games, has failed.




Who is this "Alinksy" person I keep hearing about from the right? Is he related to Ayn Rand in any way?




Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 – June 12, 1972) was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing...

He is often noted for his book Rules for Radicals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky]

"Alinksy" as opposed to Alinsky...dumbass!

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Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Sorry, but your attempt to Saul Alinksy him, because of him being one Democrat who actually still HAS a soul, and won't play by the extreme, hard core Left's games, has failed.




Who is this "Alinksy" person I keep hearing about from the right? Is he related to Ayn Rand in any way?




Saul David Alinsky (January 30, 1909 – June 12, 1972) was an American community organizer and writer. He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community organizing...

He is often noted for his book Rules for Radicals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "




A right-wing radical? He must be, as often as the right quotes him and lays things at his feet. They worship him the way Paul Ryan worships Ayn Rand.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Storybook - Nothing what you say is remotely true. It's hilarious and sad at the blind stubborn ignorance you've chosen to display, simply because your lord and master, Barack Hussein Obama, has been dared to be criticized.


Oh, Im sorry - did you say something? I was busy not giving a fuck whist I roll my eyes at your latest obsession.


Ill be sure to get riled up about that as soon as I finish reading this "Dog bites man" story in the paper...


Ooops.
Storymark exposed as yet another gullible Libtard Obamabot.

http://grumpyelder.com/2015/05/hillary-clinton-used-multiple-email-acc
ts-confidantes-libya-related-memos-surface
/

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinto
n-emails-benghazi-attack-118173.html

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Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
He's on Fox News... So what? There are more Democrats appearing on Fox News than Republicans most of the time. Democrats like Debbie Wasserman -Schultz, Anthony Weiner, Ed Rendell, Alan Colmes, Joe Trippi, Kirsten Powers and dozens more. Most Democrat politicians appear on Fox News to make their case to it's large independent share of audience.



That does not make them impartial, unless I can use the same arguments for MSNBC.


You want real discussion and debates listen to NPR or PBS. You know the places were news is not a for profit business.

A warning to everyone, AURaptor is a known liar.


Ooops. FOTFLMFAO.
m52nickerson exposed as nothing more than another ultra gullible Libtard Obamabot.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinto
n-emails-benghazi-attack-118173.html


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/sidney-blumenthal/hacker-distribut
es-memos-784091



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Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:57 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


the conspiracy continues


Aviano Italy F-!6's,"We Could Have Helped!" MVI 2207

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Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
the conspiracy continues



Quote:


Aviano Italy F-!6's,"We Could Have Helped!" MVI 2207


Many could have helped, but Hilliary and Barack believe that military lives are theirs to squander and waste.

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Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:24 PM

RIVERLOVE


Oh jeez, Benghazi, like when your car hits a bump and the cd gets stuck playing the same note over and over.

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Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
That's one of the biggest nut bags on Youtube. The only thing that's a revolution about his videos is that his house isn't on fire in the background.


So you negate any facts he might mention along the way?

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