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kiki - That was so nice of them to indicate where they spliced phrases together, don't you think?
kpo - Are you joking? I hope you are.
Apparently, words ... hell, comprehension, logic and maybe even sanity ... have failed kpo.

kiki - When Churchill said "German cities, harbours and centres of war production", was he somehow excluding cities?
kpo - Ha. If all you can do is throw out feeble strawmen like this, then you are just crying out to be ignored. Quite obviously my issue with the editing of the quote was the words taken out, not the word left in.
Aside from being completely confused as to what constitutes a strawman, he can't show how the words taken out would have substantially changed the facts as outlined by the condensed quote. Not even AFTER I provided him the FULL context of the quotes. So, kpo has again failed to offer an argument using logic based on evidence.

kiki - As an expose of the little-known historical fact that Churchill considered cities a legitimate target and adopted a policy of carpet-bombing them in 1942
kpo - Allied area bombing of German (and Japanese) cities is a little known fact? What??
A substantial minority of people in the US may understand that the US bombed Japanese civilians. Not many know that Churchill's policy was to bomb German civilians. Churchill's policy of bombing German civilians is the point of the video. US policy about the Japanese is beside the point.

kiki - ...the video is historically accurate, and not Nazi propaganda.
kpo - Oh really? Those fine neo-Nazis at Hellstorm decided to make a historically accurate, factual video about the bombing of Dresden? That was nice of them.
And here he resorts to discussing source - and carries it further into ad hominem - rather than discussing the facts.

kpo - Anyway, thanks for proving my point that you are ready to defend neo-Nazi websites as reliable sources of historical information.
And here he resorts to discussing source - and carries it further into ad hominem - rather than discussing the facts.

kiki - This book says this about the subject: (Among the Dead Cities: Is the Targeting of Civilians in War Ever Justified? By A.C. Grayling)
kpo - There's an interesting moral discussion to have about the Allied bombing of Germany and Japan, but neither you nor Signy showed much interest when I tried to have it. I guess you were too busy pushing your neo-Nazi video.
And rather than discuss the actual topic he claims he wants to discuss, he throws out more ad hominems and runs off.

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And here he resorts to discussing source

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Originally posted by kpo:

Kiki, for someone who never defends neo-Nazi sources you sure are spending a lot of time defending a neo-Nazi source

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
kpo

I don't care about sources, I care about facts. You, OTOH, are too dense to understand the difference.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
You, OTOH, are too dense to understand the difference.

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a vid and a pic to consider

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what is the truth of it?