Russian dossier on Trump gaining credibility with law enforcement by THGRRI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Now, Russia has been my primary focus because of Trumps many many corrupt associations with them.

You have posting history that goes ALL the way back, THUGGER and despite your many handles, I've been able to track back through 4 of them.

As THGRRI you've been whingeing about RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! since 2014.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58195&p=2

Do you know WHO was president in 2014?

The "stupid" is strong with this one. Or maybe it's just plain dishonesty

Not to mention that you couldn't give a crap about AMERICA and AMERICANS except as cannon fodder for your hatreds.

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Tuesday, December 29, 2020 5:23 PM

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Yep she fixed it. Good for you comrade.

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This is what happens to text formatting because of your stupid signature. It has nothing to do with your smiley-face coffee drinker, which I can obviously copy at will.

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Works for me

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Works

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Tuesday, December 29, 2020 5:32 PM

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Oh my god! Can anybody understand the mess above sig just posted? I noticed it contained some lies but could not understand what she was going for. I think I upset her with my response to the post above that and she lost it. I have little doubt she'll be back to fix it but man oh man what a mess.

Oh well…

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Ok good to go

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Tuesday, December 29, 2020 6:52 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Why do you keep posting the same stupid lie when I've already PROVED it's a lie?

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Now, Russia has been my primary focus because of Trumps many many corrupt associations with them.

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Tuesday, December 29, 2020 7:52 PM

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Oh my god! Can anybody understand the mess above sig just posted?

I TOLD you what it was about: You claim to know "what's going on in other countries" but the reality is that v you only know negative gossip and snippets selected for you by the M$M. In fact you don't know the most important fact about each country: Whether its economy is falling behind or forging ahead.

Plus, as KIKI noticed, you've had this grotch about RUSSIA!! since 2014. Had NOTHING to do with Trunp. I guess you're just a Cold War leftover who can't seem to grasp that the world has changed, and you can't seem to find your function in today's milieu.

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Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:57 PM

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Oh my god! Can anybody understand the mess above sig just posted? I noticed it contained some lies but could not understand what she was going for. I think I upset her with my response to the post above that and she lost it. I have little doubt she'll be back to fix it but man oh man what a mess.

Oh well…

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Ok good to go

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Holy shit, you two.

How the hell did you get Ted to finally fix that?

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Wednesday, December 30, 2020 2:56 AM

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THUGR: Oh my god! Can anybody understand the mess above sig just posted? I noticed it contained some lies but could not understand what she was going for. I think I upset her with my response to the post above that and she lost it. I have little doubt she'll be back to fix it but man oh man what a mess.

Oh well…

Ok good to go

SIX: Holy shit, you two.
How the hell did you get Ted to finally fix that?

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

It's STILL something to fix when I try to erase the multiple quote format, but at least it works with the default website formatting now.

My guess: Embarassment? He got so embarassed that he (a) DIDN'T know "world" MSM or anything of importance that was happening anywhere in the world and (b) His "reason" for hating Russia (Trump, of course) collapsed when KIKI dug back into the record and found he'd been bitching abut Russia since 2014.

So, he had to prove he could do SOMEthing.

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Wednesday, December 30, 2020 3:09 AM

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THUGR, I think your REAL beef with my posts is not bc they aren't true facts, with ample evidence and links behind them, but because (you think) I'm so relentlessly critical of the USA.

Basically, you don't like my selection of the facts that I choose to post. It seems you feel that the USA must be defended from criticism because anyone who criticizes the USA must hate it.

In reality, I LOVE America, which is why it pains me so much to see it berayed by corrupt politicians, treasonous security state, and globalist elite.

We could do so much better! We could be more productive, more equal amongst ourselves, more free. We could have more agency and wrench our nation onto a better path, and instead we wind up squabbling ... men v women, old v young, POC v whites ... for crumbs, while we stomp all over the world and make enemies everywhere.

How did we manage to get into such a clusterfuck? Americans are basically good people, but they have GOT to get rid of the illusion that the elites are like mommy and daddy, worrying about their children. They aren't, and they don't.

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Wednesday, December 30, 2020 9:55 AM

Look, kiki sig jack. Go ahead, post again and again you’re right and the rest of us are wrong. It’s useless and won’t restore your reputations here. All your posts are constructed with alternative facts. A house of cards that doesn’t match what the courts have been saying. Doesn’t match what our justice department has been saying. Doesn’t match what our many Intel agencies have been saying. Doesn’t match what our allies have been saying. And certainly doesn’t match what the reputable news outlets around the globe have been saying. It does however, match what Putin and other autocrats have been saying.

My being here is due to the enjoyment of discussing current events. Yours is to troll. To spread lies and misinformation. You have your different reasons for doing so I’m sure. Though saying It's not true is futile. The incalculable amount of lies you’ve posted over the years is evidence of your boundless trolling. The fake facts you claim to be true that are so obviously not, is a robust indication, your range of evidence is limited to the propaganda being spread by nuts.

This is the way it is. Have at it, because that my trolling comrade friends is what you do.

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Wednesday, December 30, 2020 6:23 PM

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THUGR, what in god's name makes you believe that the elite have any interest in telling you the truth, about anything?

Here's one truth: The rich get rich by extracting wealth from THUGR's pocket (unless THUGR is one of the elite, which I doubt). That's why we have JO kicked out of a job and scraping by, and SIX lost several jobs and scraping by, and JSF busting his butt for subsistence-pay. Not because they didn't work hard and weren't productive, but because the rich found cheaper labor in China and scraped them off.

You will never hear this essential truth: not from the elite, not from their hangers-on politicians, and certainly not from the corporate media.

If they lie about that, what else do they lie about to protect their pocketbooks?

They're not your friend, or your substitute parent. They have their interests, which don't include yours.

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Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:33 PM

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THUGR, what in god's name makes you believe that the elite have any interest in telling you the truth, about anything?

In gods name is right comrade. What makes you believe I have any interest in what you post, except to on occasion, take the time to point out more of your bullshit and lies. What is it that keeps that from sinking into your fat head? I don't like you. I don't like kiki and I don't like jack. And there are others here I don't like as well comrade. They know who they are.

I know there are many things wrong with America, as there is with all countries. However, I certainly won't discuss any of that with a troll who is nothing more than a bullshitter and liar.

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Wednesday, December 30, 2020 10:51 PM

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SIGNY: THUGR, what in god's name makes you believe that the elite have any interest in telling you the truth, about anything?

THUGR: In gods name is right comrade. What makes you believe I have any interest in what you post, except to on occasion, take the time to point out more of your bullshit and lies.

You have NEVER found any lies in my posts, have you?

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What is it that keeps that from sinking into your fat head?

I don't like you.

OK...

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I don't like kiki and I don't like jack.

OK...

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And there are others here I don't like as well comrade. They know who they are.

Ok...

But what does "liking" have to do with the topic? Or logic? Or facts?

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I know there are many things wrong with America, as there is with all countries.

On that, we agree. But IMHO what's wrong with America is existentially wrong, not just wrong around the edges.

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However, I certainly won't discuss any of that with a troll who is nothing more than a bullshitter and liar.

I'm not trying to stir up the ant's nest with name-calling (like some people), all I'm trying to do is discuss a topic calmly and rationally. Can you say the same?

And, I can't remember where I have ever lied. Have I ever I misrepresented what you or anyone else said?

You may disagree with my opinions, but I come by them and express them honestly.

I think you just don't like what I post. That doesn't make me wrong, or a liar.

AFA what I think of you, I think that you feel your opinions deeply and it feels "honest" to you, so anyone who disagrees with you, you feel must be "dishonest". But you're wrong. It's possible to have an honest difference of opinion. Can you accept that?

I believe that you're misinformed and you believe lies, but that you yourself aren't a liar.

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Wednesday, December 30, 2020 11:23 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Naw. THUGGER is a liar. One recent example - when he claimed he was posting about RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! because ... Trump. Because Trump was president in 2014.

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 12:07 AM

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Look, kiki sig jack. Go ahead, post again and again you’re right and the rest of us are wrong. It’s useless and won’t restore your reputations here.

OUR reputations?

What on earth makes you think that I could give two shits what you think about anything, junior?

That might just be the most unintentionally hilarious thing I've read in 2020.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 1:41 AM

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Naw. THUGGER is a liar. One recent example - when he claimed he was posting about RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! because ... Trump. Because Trump was president in 2014.

I think THUGR is so easily influenced by the M$M that he actually forgot where his hysteria about Russia started. In 2014 is was prolly RUSSIA!UKRAINE! and when the media morphed the story to RUSSIA!TRUMP! his brain kinda morphed with it.

Seen it a lot... people are induced to forget what they were told a month ago, and they do. Goldfish memory, I call it. (In case you were wondering, that's about six seconds.)

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 10:21 AM

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Naw. THUGGER is a liar. One recent example - when he claimed he was posting about RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! because ... Trump. Because Trump was president in 2014.
I think THUGR is so easily influenced by the M$M that he actually forgot where his hysteria about Russia started. In 2014 is was prolly RUSSIA!UKRAINE! and when the media morphed the story to RUSSIA!TRUMP! his brain kinda morphed with it.

Comrade sig tells us, instead of trusting what has been and is being reported now by the press, what has been and is being reported now by our intel agencies, what has been and is being reported now by our justice department, what has been and is being reported now by our Senate, what has been and is being reported now by our congress, we should believe what she finds posted ad hoc by nuts on the internet, which she then posts here. Or, believe her when she says it’s all not true.

That's precious and is taken directly from”a dictators playbook” written long before, but used by Putin and Trump. It goes like this; don't believe what you see but instead believe what I tell you. Sig and others here post no evidence whenever they post against anything they don’t like. Anything reported on by these different entities and others I’ve not listed. Instead they simply say, it’s not true. That it’s all fake news.

If you actually believe what sig kiki jack and some others here suggest, you are an internet nut, just as they surely are.

Senate Intelligence Committee releases final report on 2016 Russian interference

Washington — A nearly 1,000-page report released by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday documented a broad set of links and interactions between Russian government operatives and members of the 2016 Trump campaign, adding new details and dimensions to the account laid out last year by special counsel Robert Mueller and raising counterintelligence concerns about certain Russian efforts that may have persisted into the 2020 election season.

Tuesday's report was the committee's final, and long-awaited, chapter in its more than three-year investigation into Russia's 2016 election interference, marking the conclusion of what was held up as the last and arguably only bipartisan congressional investigation into the matter. Spanning 966 pages, it concluded, as have other assessments of Russia's efforts, that Moscow "engaged in an aggressive, multifaceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-report-russian-interference-2016-u
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Thursday, December 31, 2020 4:58 PM

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I think THUGR is so easily influenced by the M$M that he actually forgot where his hysteria about Russia started. In 2014 is was prolly RUSSIA!UKRAINE! and when the media morphed the story to RUSSIA!TRUMP! his brain kinda morphed with it.

THUGR: Comrade sig tells us, instead of
trustingg what has been and is being reported now by the press, what has been and is being reported now by our intel agencies, what has been and is being reported now by our justice department, what has been and is being reported now by our Senate, what has been and is being reported now by our congress, we should believe what she finds posted ad hoc by nuts on the internet, which she then posts here. Or, believe her when she says it’s all not true.

THUGR, have any of them proven themselves trustworthy? Or have they flogged stories endlessly that EVEN YOU have learned were false?

Iraq WMD? Hello?

Yanno, in the run-up to GWB's Iraq invasion, I wrote to my Senator, Diane Feinstein, about what a load of hogwash "IRAQ WMD" was, and she (head of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time) sent back a smarmy email which I still have in my files "explaining" that, well, as Chair of the Intelligence Committee, she had info that I didn't.

What she had was a load of hooey.

What possible motive do ANY of them have for telling you the truth?

These people are getting seriously rich doing what the lobbyists tell them to do. Do you think they're going to come clean on that?

Mike Pompeo, former director of the CIA, openly said "We lied, we cheated, we stole, (chuckles) we had entire training courses.. It* reminds you of the glory of the American experiment (laughter and applause)".

*Lying, cheating, and stealing reminds him off the glory of the American experiment?? That's almost as bad as "We came, we saw, he died (giggle)"

DON'T TRUST ANYONE. NOT THE M$M, NOT SOMEBODY ON YOUTUBE. Always check what is being reported against common sense, logic, and all available HARD EVIDENCE. Not gossip. Not "somebody said that somebody said"

You need to grow up and not entrust your brain to anyone else

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 5:00 PM

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Naw. THUGGER is a liar. One recent example - when he claimed he was posting about RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! because ... Trump. Because Trump was president in 2014.
I think THUGR is so easily influenced by the M$M that he actually forgot where his hysteria about Russia started. In 2014 is was prolly RUSSIA!UKRAINE! and when the media morphed the story to RUSSIA!TRUMP! his brain kinda morphed with it.

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 5:01 PM

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I think THUGR is so easily influenced by the M$M that he actually forgot where his hysteria about Russia started. In 2014 is was prolly RUSSIA!UKRAINE! and when the media morphed the story to RUSSIA!TRUMP! his brain kinda morphed with it.

THUGR: Comrade sig tells us, instead of
trustingg what has been and is being reported now by the press, what has been and is being reported now by our intel agencies, what has been and is being reported now by our justice department, what has been and is being reported now by our Senate, what has been and is being reported now by our congress, we should believe what she finds posted ad hoc by nuts on the internet, which she then posts here. Or, believe her when she says it’s all not true.

THUGR, have any of them proven themselves trustworthy? Or have they flogged stories endlessly that EVEN YOU have learned were false?

Iraq WMD? Hello?

Yanno, in the run-up to GWB's Iraq invasion, I wrote to my Senator, Diane Feinstein, about what a load of hogwash "IRAQ WMD" was, and she (head of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time) sent back a smarmy email which I still have in my files "explaining" that, well, as Chair of the Intelligence Committee, she had info that I didn't.

What she had was a load of hooey.

What possible motive do ANY of them have for telling you the truth?

These people are getting seriously rich doing what the lobbyists tell them to do. Do you think they're going to come clean on that?

Mike Pompeo, former director of the CIA, openly said "We lied, we cheated, we stole, (chuckles) we had entire training courses.. It* reminds you of the glory of the American experiment (laughter and applause)".

*Lying, cheating, and stealing reminds him off the glory of the American experiment?? That's almost as bad as "We came, we saw, he died (giggle)"

DON'T TRUST ANYONE. NOT THE M$M, NOT SOMEBODY ON YOUTUBE. Always check what is being reported against common sense, logic, and all available HARD EVIDENCE. Not gossip. Not "somebody said that somebody said"

You need to grow up and not entrust your brain to anyone else.

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 5:06 PM

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I think THUGR is so easily influenced by the M$M that he actually forgot where his hysteria about Russia started. In 2014 is was prolly RUSSIA!UKRAINE! and when the media morphed the story to RUSSIA!TRUMP! his brain kinda morphed with it.

THUGR: Comrade sig tells us, instead of trusting what has been and is being reported now by the press, what has been and is being reported now by our intel agencies, what has been and is being reported now by our justice department, what has been and is being reported now by our Senate, what has been and is being reported now by our congress, we should believe what she finds posted ad hoc by nuts on the internet, which she then posts here. Or, believe her when she says it’s all not true.

THUGR, have any of them proven themselves trustworthy?

Really, that’s what you’re going with. You’re not just any troll comrade. You’re a comedic troll. Thanks for the chuckle. Many times here I've explained your posts are subjective. I'll remind everyone what I mean by that. Subjective thinking is dependent on or taking place in a person's mind rather than the external world. In other words you're a nut.

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Thursday, December 31, 2020 5:09 PM

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THUGR: Really, that’s what you’re going with?

REALITY, yep, that’s what I'm going with.
You?
"Trust the untrustworthy"?

Shit, THUGR, look at your thread title. That "dossier" has proven to be a load of hogwash.

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Friday, January 1, 2021 11:36 AM

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THUGR: Really, that’s what you’re going with?

REALITY, yep, that’s what I'm going with.
You?
"Trust the untrustworthy"?

Shit, THUGR, look at your thread title. That "dossier" has proven to be a load of hogwash.

You obliviously don't understand how intelligence works or you don't care to be honest about it. I think it’s the latter. It is collected information from different sources used to create a hypothesis. Then like in science, if some aspects can't be proven wrong but have collaborative evidence, it makes them likely true. The sources used for the dossier are proven sources so they are going to be mostly correct. Not 100% correct but mostly. I have sourced the dossier to be 80% correct. Your information regarding this is the spin put out to discredit it; go figure.

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An Investigative Reporter Explains Why The Trump-Russia Dossier Is Not 'Fake News'

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Saturday, January 2, 2021 5:57 AM

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THUGR: Really, that’s what you’re going with?

SIGNY: REALITY, yep, that’s what I'm going with.
You?
"Trust the untrustworthy"?

Shit, THUGR, look at your thread title. That "dossier" has proven to be a load of hogwash.

THUGR: You obliviously don't understand how intelligence works or you don't care to be honest about it. I think it’s the latter. It is collected information from different sources used to create a hypothesis. Then like in science, if some aspects can't be proven wrong but have collaborative evidence, it makes them likely true. The sources used for the dossier are proven sources so they are going to be mostly correct. Not 100% correct but mostly. I have sourced the dossier to be 80% correct. Your information regarding this is the spin put out to discredit it; go figure.

Much of the so-called dossier could not be verified by ANY investigation into the evidence. for example, the so-called "golden showers" incident could not be verified by any investigation into travel plans and hotel registries. And much of the information came from specious sources who have since been revealed.

Your Youtube video consists of a guy saying "the dossier is real" without ANY evidence to nack it up: no names, no dates, no flight logs or registries, no nothing. Pluse IT'S THREE YEARS OLD AND HAS SINCE BEEN DISPROVEN, BY MUELLER, OF ALL PEOPLE!

Seriously, THUGR, just because someone stands in front of a camera in a nice suit and speaks authoritatively with a British accent, doesn't make his unverified assertions true. The "dossier" has been gone over with a fine-tooth comb, and it has evaporated under examination.

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Not much "investigation" going on there.

But my beef with the intelligence agencies isn't just with the so-called "dossier"

They extraordinarily-renditioned and tortured and swore they didn't, and they conducted massive illegal surveillance (as revealed by Snowden) on the American people and swore they didn't do that, either. They lied to, cheated on, and stole from the American people on MANY occasions.

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Saturday, January 2, 2021 9:35 AM

Trump Russia dossier key claim 'verified'

A. The BBC has learned that US officials "verified" a key claim in a report about Kremlin involvement in Donald Trump's election - that a Russian diplomat in Washington was in fact a spy.

B. One former senior official who saw these reports told me: "It was found to be of value by the people whose job it was to look at Russia every day.

C. "They said things like, 'How can he get this so quickly? This fits exactly with what we have.' It was validated many times."

D. Another who dealt with this material in government said: "Sometimes he would get spun by somebody. [But] it was always 80% there."

E. "A leading Russian diplomat, Mikhail KULAGIN, had been withdrawn from Washington at short notice because Moscow feared his heavy involvement in the US presidential election operation… would be exposed in the media there."

F. "This is a three-headed operation," said one former official, setting out the case, based on the intelligence: Firstly, hackers steal damaging emails from senior Democrats. Secondly, the stories based on this hacked information appear on Twitter and Facebook, posted by thousands of automated "bots", then on Russia's English-language outlets, RT and Sputnik, then right-wing US "news" sites such as Infowars and Breitbart, then Fox and the mainstream media. Thirdly, Russia downloads the online voter rolls.

G. The voter rolls are said to fit into this because of "microtargeting". Using email, Facebook and Twitter, political advertising can be tailored very precisely: individual messaging for individual voters.

"You are stealing the stuff and pushing it back into the US body politic," said the former official, "you know where to target that stuff when you're pushing it back."

This would take co-operation with the Trump campaign, it is claimed.

H. "If you need to ensure that white women in Pennsylvania don't vote or independents get pissed in Michigan so they stay home: that's voter suppression. You can figure what your target demographics and locations are from the voter rolls. Then you can use that to target your bot."

This is the "big picture" some accuse the FBI of failing to see.

I. For instance, the US intelligence agencies said last October that the voter rolls had been "scanned and probed" from a server in Russia.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786

Remember I recently posted the dossier contributed to a hypothesis. Mueller laid out 10 obstruction of justice charges against Trump While he was investigating Trump and members of Trumps teams' connections to Russia.

The gist of the Steele dossier, what the dossier illustrated, is Russian ties to Trump and some of his staff, their collaborating with each other, and election interference. Specific points of the dossier may be off, but what the dossier tried to elaborate has been proven in courts of law. Nine of Trumps cronies were convicted of lying about this and their ties to Russia are indisputable.

Of course comrades Sig and kiki would have us believe otherwise. Personally, I don't put much stock in what Russian collaborators say. There's nothing more degusting than a Polish Russian collaborator. In Poland they're identified as gutter rats. In America they're identified as gutter rats.

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I just had to come back to this pile of dogshit ...

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F. "This is a three-headed operation," said one former official, setting out the case, based on the intelligence: Firstly, hackers steal damaging emails from senior Democrats.

When? How? The only theft of "damaging emails" was because of PELOSI, when she let Imran Awan (Congressional email "security consultant") control and access too many accounts, and then he fled back to Pakistan

https://m.theepochtimes.com/the-awan-it-scandal-put-congressional-data
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Now, if this is a sideways reference to the DNC "email hacks", even Crowdstrike told the Senate (in secret testimony just recently made public) was that there was NO EVIDENCE that Russia "stole" the emails.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020/05/13/crowdstrike_president_und
er_oath_no_proof_of_russia_dnc_hack_510974.html#!

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Secondly, the stories based on this hacked information

WHICH stories? DNC emails appeared directly on Wikileaks. There was no need to generate "stories" when one could access the emails directly

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appear on Twitter and Facebook, posted by thousands of automated "bots", then on Russia's English-language outlets, RT and Sputnik, then right-wing US "news" sites such as Infowars and Breitbart, then Fox and the mainstream media.

Again, WHICH stories? Were they untrue?

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Thirdly, Russia downloads the online voter rolls.

G. The voter rolls are said to fit into this because of "microtargeting". Using email, Facebook and Twitter, political advertising can be tailored very precisely: individual messaging for individual voters.

EVIDENCE? I never got any. Neither did anyone I know. I know there was quite a push to designate ANY story an ANY website that didn't follow the mainstream narrative as questionable, but as far as I can tell most of these designations were utterly baseless... except RT and Sputnik, of course, which are openly funded by the Russian government

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This would take co-operation with the Trump campaign, it is claimed.

HOW? What does the Trump campiagn have anything to do with Facebook or Twitter or RT?

This is just another list of illogical, evidence-free accusations. They make no attempt whatsoever to provide any evidence, or even to make sure that their story makes any sense.

It's just stupid.

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Sunday, January 3, 2021 9:57 AM

You can’t sell it Sig.

Your first source is the Epoch Times. A far-right newspaper and media company. They are affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement. I know about them and it isn’t good. For one thing, they believe Trump was sent by god. If your sources are nuts Sig, then so are you.

As for your second source claiming CrowdStrike could not prove the Russian hack, so what. I don't recall them ever claiming they could. Bottom line, our intelligence agencies proved them right.

You ask what Trump had to do with facebook, twitter and RT. We know Trumps campaign staff helped feed Russia the information they needed to pull this off. They told the Russians what areas to target. "If you need to ensure that white women in Pennsylvania don't vote or independents get pissed in Michigan so they stay home: that's voter suppression. You can figure what your target demographics and locations are from the voter rolls. Then you can use that to target your bot."

"This is a three-headed operation," said one former official, setting out the case, based on the intelligence: Firstly, hackers steal damaging emails from senior Democrats. Secondly, the stories based on this hacked information appear on Twitter and Facebook, posted by thousands of automated "bots", then on Russia's English-language outlets, RT and Sputnik, then right-wing US "news" sites such as Infowars and Breitbart, then Fox and the mainstream media. Thirdly, Russia downloads the online voter rolls.

I’ll say it again. I don’t give credence to what Russian calibrators say.

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Saturday, June 12, 2021 8:51 AM

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I think this thread is a bit ahead of its time. Maybe it will pick up when the investigation is finished.

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Saturday, June 12, 2021 12:02 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Either that or you've been diddling yourself for over 4 years. Get a hobby. Get a life.

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