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Man... You are truly an interesting character.

I can't really argue with your logic. At least not from where I'm sitting right now.

Congrats for getting it. Seemz to be beyond ordinary peepl.

I don't think congratulations my way is appropriate here.

Pity your way from another non-normie who gets exactly where you're coming from is probably more appropriate.

You ever sit around thinking that we'd probably be a whole lot happier if we had about 20 or so less IQ points, JO?

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Stress is something I try to avoid these days at all costs. I already put enough of that on myself without worrying about things like bills and such. I'd much rather deny myself material pleasures that don't meaningfully fill any holes than slave away repaying debts.

I havent had a credit card in 12 yirz. But I'm not good at being frugal.

That's definitely a good thing if you're not frugal. Credit cards are just a step above Payday loans and are one of the easiest ways to ruin people who aren't frugal.

Stealing money from suckers-turned-wage-slaves is how they pay the CEOs and stockholders after they give me my cut in bonus points on my cards I pay off immediately after buying anything on them. (I've actually memorized which cards will let me pay them before transactions hit, and which ones will tell me that I can't put any money on them with a zero balance... It's an annoyance because I want to pay it now and I have to remember to come back in a few days so I can pay it once the new transaction clears).

But, as you know now, it's not just cards that are the problem. You don't have a car payment on that classic New Yorker (I'm assuming), but you did have a large mortgage for a house that's in one of the highest taxed areas in the country (both in property and sales taxes).

How much was your property taxes per year, JO? Do you even know the answer to that question, or was it wrapped up in escrow and just part of your monthly mortgage payment? If you looked into how much of that money every month you were paying that went to your property taxes and the loan, I think you'd be infuriated knowing how little of your cash was actually going toward the principal.

The good news is, even with the spike in rent costs, you'll probably be able to get an apartment for about as much as you were pissing away on property taxes in Illinois and the loan interest on the house.

You won't be building up any assets, but you won't be out on your ass.

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I get the sense that you're not nearly as stressed about any of this as you probably should be.

True. And it drives everybody nuts.

If it makes you feel any better, you're not driving me nuts. But then again, as much as I've always liked you on FFF.net, I'm not somebody in the real world who genuinely cares about you.

I spent 5 years drinking myself into a coma every other day and pushed everyone away before it could drive them nuts. Out of sight, of of mind, as it were. But there was a point there where people would hear so infrequently from me that I could probably have slipped in my tub and died and nobody would even find me until the neighbors started smelling something rotten.

It's taken years for me to re-establish just a handful of those relationships. Some of them I might not ever know if they could be salvaged because I just haven't felt like putting in the work. Relationships are taxing. (It's another thing I'm not very interested in or good at). There's only so much of me to go around. I think I'm pretty comfortable with the level of friends and family I interact with these days.

I look at it like I purged my real-life friends and family list like when I purged all of the garbage out of my house.

Simple. Neat. Complete.

If you're not going to stress out, great. I envy your ability not to, because I'd be losing my fuckin' mind right now in your shoes.

But you've got to at least attempt to make a plan now. What's your first move?

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I get the "antisales" thing. People like us could probably use a partner with the gift of gab to take care of all of that stuff while we do the bulk of the work.

I thot uv that back in the 90z. Unfortunately, I cant even sell that idea to salez oriented peepl!

I hear you man.

My buddy has been a salesman all of his life and makes more money in 2 years than I'll probably make in the rest of my life just selling people stuff.

I can't even come up with something to try to get him to sell.

Maybe when I finally get this house finished I can start building things.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 9:19 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Even SECOND, who knows who I am bc he had a PI investigate me, apologized for libelling me.
Sorry but you're not important enough to me to investigate you.

HA! So it wuz a total fabrication!

Siggy, Siggy, Siggy.

Funny and sad.

It might be Signym misunderstood what I wrote. That is the happiest explanation. It's a New Year and I don't want to speculate on the possible unhappiest/saddest explanations. Those sorrowful interpretations take some digging into the other person's life, more than I want to do.

https://getcomics.info/other-comics/firefly-35-2021/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:19 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Even SECOND, who knows who I am bc he had a PI investigate me, apologized for libelling me.

SECOND:Sorry but you're not important enough to me to investigate you.

JO753: HA! So it wuz a total fabrication!
Siggy, Siggy, Siggy.
Funny and sad.

Bc a phone recording system was temporarily borked and started recording before it indicated it was recording, an incomplete message was (carelessly) left which personally and unmistakably referenced me and my family, reporting in to ... someone... how the "investigation" was going. Since SECOND has repeatedly said he uses PIs to investigate people and is prolly the only one who would throw money away on a whim, I can only assume that the report was going to SECOND. This was about 4 years ago.
The message was there. I heard it. I don't make shit up, unlike SECOND.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:33 PM

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Cheaper only, and thats prezuming they actually prevent you from getting sick.

I wore an N95 going shopping and running errands from the beginning of the pandemic, long before there were vaccines and long before anyone else was even wearing a paper mask. I was in grocery stores and hardware stores and other necessary places. I STILL wear an N95 and have not ever gotten Covid.

I used to ride motorcycle and I used to wear helmets. I know what they feel like. You're not about to convince me that a motorcycle helmet is more comfortable than a mask.

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JO753: 3. Maybe he figured out an excuse to justify suiside. Wun uv the problemz with really smart peepl iz that they can alwayz think up sum complicated chain uv lojik to suport their prefered beleef.

You should apply that to yourself once in a while.

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Let me explain a bit about my background, JO, so maybe you can understand why I seem so "foreign" to you.
I'm pretty old. I was born to older parents, so my experience and their experiences - and the lessons they taught me- go back to pre-WWII days.
My dad grew up on a farm in rural Poland. No running water, no cars, no trucks. They had a plow horse, and a cow, and a pig, and fruit trees and some fields, and an outhouse. They ate a lot of potatoes and cabbage.

Once, the Russians came and burned down the family farm, and the family lived in a hole in the ground for a winter before they could rebuild. His mom died when he was 13. It was a hard life. but he was a bright young lad, and the family believed in getting an education to get ahead, so he got to university on a scholarship. He was 2 weeks away from getting his PhD in Physics when WWII came along, and he was drafted into the Polish Army and sent to fight the Russians. He was captured, escaped the Katyn Forest massacre by guile, sent to a Ukrainian tin mine. escaped again, and was sent to a Siberian labor camp to build the trans-Siberian railway.

Finally, the Russians and the British decided that they were really allies, and the Russians allowed the surviving Poles in their labor camps to go to England, if they could make their way. So my dad walked out of Siberia, made his was to a DP camp in Iran, where he was eventually transported by ship around Africa to England. There, he promptly joined the British commandos. I know this because we have some pictures of him in British uniform, and he used to get a disability check from Her Majesty's Army (in pounds, shillings, and pence) which he would have to go to the bank to cash.

He was parachuted into Poland to act as a provocateur/saboteur, but after the conference at Yalta, which "gave" Poland to the Russians, he had to escape, again, back to England.

In London, he got a Masters in Accounting. But there were so many displaced Poles in England, the Brits were anxious to get rid of them, and offered them one-way tickets to Australia, Canada, and USA. USA was the quickest trip, so dad moved here, where his degree was discounted. Back to the bottom, again. He started out as a clerk, and eventually worked his was, thru several jobs, to regional manager of a government agency where he was well-respected as a fair boss.

My mom lived thru the Great Depression with a largish family of siblings and step-siblings. HER parents ... my grandparents on my mom's side .. were also from Poland. They spoke Polish at home, she learned English at school. She remembers eating a lot of oats and prunes, because they gave them away for free! She left home when she was 16 to go to nursing school in Rochester MN, during one of the polio epidemics, where she became a Kinney nurse and, later, a pediatric nurse. Like my dad, she was a hard-working woman who worked, full time, while raising a family.
In our house, the worst thing you could call someone was "stupid", and the next-worse thing you could call someone was "lazy". They had a belief in education and getting ahead, and were extremely conscious that life could toss up potentially life-ending events, so they (espicially dad) were extremely security-conscious.

I suppose you could say that I grew up with second-hand PTSD.

My HUSBAND grew up in post WWII Hungary, under Communism. No standing bridges, prolly one running truck in the whole country. In the summer, he was packed off to live with his grandparents in a hamlet in the mountains, Bagyslom, because they grew their own food there. Everyone had a kitchen garden, raised chickens, fattened a hog. They had communal fields for grain, sunflowers, poppyseeds. A giant communal oven for baking bread. Gyspies (Roma) used to camp nearby. No running water, he had to fetch water, herd the geese (they were big as he was, and mean!) given a stick but told "Don't hurt the geese!". Or he was packed off to an uncle's dairy farm on the lowlands. In winter, he lived with his mom in a town called Tata (or Tatavar, Fort Tata) where they also raised a pig, while his dad studied Engineering in Budapest. Eventually, his dad got a job there, they moved to Budapest. He remembers the Soviet tanks coming in, the sound of 50-caliber ammo hitting the stone walls of the buildings. Because he father was part of the "uprising" they escaped, walking thru a minefield at night while he bled thru his shoes bc they were so ill-fitting. To Germany to a DP camp, and then to the USA bc his dad had an engineering degree. His dad, who suffered horribly as a child and then as a German POW, chained to a munitions cart while being strafed, became a twisted person and was terrible to live with.

I already told you about hubby's progress thru life.

What I learned is: LIFE CAN BE HARD. You need to face it head-on, and do your best to make your way thru, or it can crush you.

When I read about your problems and complaints, they seem mostly self-generated and self-indulgent. Not that you aren't clever, but you can't face reality. You think you can- or should be able to - "hobby" your way thru life, doing only what interests you. And that maybe YOU would be a good example for society? When I looked at the hippies when I was a teen, they thought they could "flower power" their way thru life, taking drugs and begging on the street, and all I could think of was ... they're living off of someone else's work. They - and you- seem to have volunteered to become one of the army of "useless eaters".

You can't have a society like that.

And where has that gotten you?

You need more mental toughness and self-discipline, and maybe need to pull your head up out of the sand once in a while, and look around at reality.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 2:40 PM

JO's helmet is the definition of over-engineering for Covid, which is not scary in the least bit and doesn't even warrant wearing a rag cut from a dirty old t-shirt.

But who the hell knows what Fauci and China are cooking up right now.

JO's probably going to be pretty happy he's got a working helmet when Fauci unleashes Captain Tripps for Bill Gates and Emperor Xi.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 3:51 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
JO's helmet is the definition of over-engineering for Covid, which is not scary in the least bit and doesn't even warrant wearing a rag cut from a dirty old t-shirt.

But who the hell knows what Fauci and China are cooking up right now.

JO's probably going to be pretty happy he's got a working helmet when Fauci unleashes Captain Tripps for Bill Gates and Emperor Xi.

Disinfection is not easy. I've been part of hospital incinerator testing, and ONE of the tests that they run is to put a bottle of an identifiable bacterium in the middle of a waste bag, toss it into the incinerator, retrieve it afterwards and see if they can culture to bacterium out (i.e if it survived).

You need a very powerful UV light to disinfect air on the way thru. Has JO's helmet been shown to disinfect? Last I saw, he had a "model" with red and blue lights. "Red" and "blue" make purple, not UV. I wouldn't trust my life on it, unless it thoroughly tested, which I doubt it is bc JO doesn't have the equipment to do the testing.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 5:56 PM

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Let me explain a bit about my background...

Interesting history. But until I vizit and see the documents, foto albumz and heirloomz and other assorted stuff, it duznt dispell the imaj youv made for yourself here.

Even then, it woud take sum serious splaining to reconsile the intellijent, reality adhering persona with the constant TrumPutin Conspirasy denializm.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 6:00 PM

rezident owtsidr

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
JO's helmet is the definition of over-engineering for Covid

An unwize attitude.

Frum the FundRazr paje:

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Rock climbers do not step on a scale then shop around for the cheapest rope rated for that weight. They know they will have a very bad day if it breaks.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 6:04 PM

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Let me explain a bit about my background...

Interesting history. But until I vizit and see the documents, foto albumz and heirloomz and other assorted stuff, it duznt dispell the imaj youv made for yourself here.

Even then, it woud take sum serious splaining to reconsile the intellijent, reality adhering persona with the constant TrumPutin Conspirasy denializm.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

What image have I "made for myself here"?

If you stop by the RAIN!! thread, I freely post about my doings, the neighborhood, the SoCal concerns about rain and water, my former job, my interest in the environment and how I've made my backyard wildlife-friendky.

It's YOUR prejudice and YOUR narrow-mindedness ... and the constant harping of the M$M ... that have created an image for you, JO753.

And the image that you've made of yourself here... is not anything to be proud of.

Did you believe in Saddam/911/WMD too?

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 6:16 PM

rezident owtsidr

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Originally posted by SIGNYM: Disinfection is not easy...
You need a very powerful UV light to disinfect air on the way thru.

True. I researched a variety uv methodz for about a month befor settling on UV-C.

Its only been about 7 yirz sins UV-C LEDz hav been available. They hav a much hire intensity than the mercury vapor tubez. The challenj for deeper UV bandz iz efficiency. UV-C in the 260 to 280nm ranje were at about 15% wen I first ordered sum. They are probably hire now.

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Last I saw, he had a "model" with red and blue lights.

I never had a model with red & blue lites. You must hav woct a Youtube from an idiot and confuzed it with me.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 6:26 PM

rezident owtsidr

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:What image have I "made for myself here"?

A Russian propaganda spredder trying to help Trump & the GoP ruin America.

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If you stop by the RAIN!! thread,

Maybe if I hav sum time. I'v alwayz tried to limit the amount uv time I squander in forumz, but sorry for not ever looking into it.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 6:38 PM

Sorry JO. Not everybody who doesn't agree with you politically is a Russian.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 6:57 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
JO's helmet is the definition of over-engineering for Covid

An unwize attitude.

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Rock climbers do not step on a scale then shop around for the cheapest rope rated for that weight. They know they will have a very bad day if it breaks.

You forgot the rest of that sentence...

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which is not scary in the least bit and doesn't even warrant wearing a rag cut from a dirty old t-shirt.

I've been fine with nothing more than my mustache and beard in front of my mouth. I'll be fine every single day going forward with nothing more than that. If I've gotten Covid, which there's a pretty good fucking chance that I already have by now, it didn't even register as anything more than a cold.

You don't even need a cheap, throwaway surgical mask for Covid and you never have. Why on earth would people go outside every day looking like something out of a 50's Sci-Fi movie right now? And pay $5,000 or more to boot?

Like I said in my previous post, you'll be happy you have that when Fauci and the Chinese unleash something we actually need to be worried about. But nobody is going to buy your helmet today.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 7:00 PM

What you should be doing now is drawing the parallels from your way of thinking regarding your helmet to things that are practical in your life like not blowing your money on frivolous shit, and being prepared for any future situation like you find yourself in right now.

Covid didn't get you, but bankruptcy did.

Covid was never a threat. Bankruptcy always was.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 7:00 PM

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Originally posted by JO753:
A Russian propaganda spredder trying to help Trump & the GoP ruin America.

HOW??
HOW am I trying to "ruin America"? By saying that we need to start manufacturing again??
By attending to our environment?
By reducing our waste and debt?
By focusing on AMERICAN CITIZENS and our concerns, and stop butting in to other nations that are no concern to of ours?

And what is YOUR plan, oh wise one?

Somehow convince the oligarchs to shower us with money so we can sit on our asses and while away the hours?

Do YOU think that's the way to make a free and independent nation that can take- and keep- it's place among other nations?

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SIGNY; If you stop by the RAIN!! thread

JO753: Maybe if I hav sum time. I'v alwayz tried to limit the amount uv time I squander in forumz, but sorry for not ever looking into it.

I took the time to read your posts before forming an opinion of you. It would be intellectually honest if you did the same. Well, I've wasted enuf time on your self-indulgence for one day. Time to do something else.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 7:46 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI: If he was so right, why did the world not work the way he thought it should have? Why wasn't he getting money just for being smart, as he assumed he should? And most importantly, why did he kill himself?

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1. Prezuming he did think the world shoud work in a particular way

He TOLD ME SO! Otherwise I wouldn't have claimed he thought that. You dork!

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J - I don't, the reazon it duznt iz kuz the PTB dont see an advantaj for themselvz.

That's what people have been trying to tell you. The world doesn't work the way you're waiting for it to work. People need to see an advantage TO THEMSELVES to sending you THEIR money in your direction. Or at least to not see a pointless effort or needless loss.

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J - 2. Hard to beleev anybody woud think that. The system clearly rewardz peepl for having money. Its the fundamental function.

And yet, you seem to think that rich people would give away THEIR money - to you - just 'because'. Logic, JO. Apply that logic to your beliefs. Why should anybody send you money? What advantage to themselves do they see?

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J - The worst crime iz to be poor.

You mean like you?

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J - Wun uv the problemz with really smart peepl iz that they can alwayz think up sum complicated chain uv lojik to suport their prefered beleef.

Logic JO. Apply that logic to your own beliefs.
For example: your preferred belief is that noalf is the world-beating way of the future - right? So why hasn't it taken the world by storm if it's such a brilliant solution? Why haven't people recognized it and adopted it? Its free! Where's the hitch?

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K - Your quest to find a sugar-daddy/ patron might pay off,

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J - Sugar daddy? HA!
You dont seem to hav a notion uv how much money iz sloshing around way up there out uv reach for us ordinary peepl. Or just the amount uv spare money us ordinary sitizenz hav lying around.

I may have an even better idea than you about how much money is out there. But you seem to think it moves like waves on a beach, without human agency, and that some may accidentally slosh over your shoes.
It won't. Money is intentionally moved by human entities - individuals or groups or their legal devices. SOME HUMAN-ASSOCIATED ENTITY is going to have to INTENTIONALLY move money in your direction. In other words, a sugar daddy.

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J - If everybody in the US dropped a dime into the UVPK project I coud hav product for sale in 6 months. (unless the regulatory ajensyz get in the way)

But everybody would have to think it's worth a dime - and the time and effort that the task of donating a dime takes.
So, how's your noalf going? After all, it's even free!
Just becasue you think it's a brilliant idea and it solves some problem you're carrying around in your head, that doesn't mean it's a solution for others, especially because they aren't stuck on the problems you have in your head.

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Alternatively, a small group uv investorz or a single "sugar daddy" coud see the potential and provide the money. Or Uncle Sam.
In any case, its wwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy less than wut haz been lost alredy.

You're flogging a solution to a problem that's already been solved - so it's faster - and it's also better, and cheaper.

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K - Also, I don't think your helmet will ever be commercially viable.

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J - Thats part uv wut a proper R&D project works on. Unfortunately, the louzy to nonexistant R&D prosess at most companyz theze dayz woud probably screw it up. Thats part uv why I want to do it.

It's a problem that already has a solution - that's faster, better, and cheaper than yours.
A PROPER R&D PROCESS DOESN'T FLOG DEAD ISSUES.

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K - But as it is, N95's are far cheaper, more comfortable and convenient, and just as protective.

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J - Cheaper only, and thats prezuming they actually prevent you from getting sick. Take it from the only person hoo haz worn the helmet - it iz comfortable and convenient. Better than the elastic bandz and unreliable fit uv the N95z I'v been wearing.

They do JO - N95s have been tested far more often, for far longer, and far more rigorously than your helmet, I assure you; and used for decades by people whose health and lives depend on them working.

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J - The fase diaperz are eazy to put on. Thats why most peepl prefer them and most uv the reuzable masks uze ear bandz insted uv around the hed bandz like the N95z uze.

You know JO, I SPECIFICALLY mentioned N95s as the answer to COVID-19. You even quoted me.
If you want to argue by lying about what I posted and pretend I was talking about the 'surgical' masks, go ahead.
It just makes you look like a conniving liar, as well as silly dolt.

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J - The actual production units I will make will be az eazy to put on az a hat and comfortable enuf to forget you are wearing them.

And not restrict field of vision? Hearing? Heat dissipation? Not require power? Be cheaper and easier to use than an N95? That never fogs up?

Really?

JO, stop wasting your time and other people's time too. M'kay?

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:25 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Signy, JO's tether to reality is very poor. I cite noalf, RUSSIA!!!, and his COVID-19 helmet as examples, though there are many more.

Once he gets an idea, no amount of reality will dislodge it. Don't waste any more of your time discussing his notions with him. You'll just lose time and you'll get nowhere.

ETA: another striking example, right here in this thread, is his belief in SECOND's post about not hiring a PI, merely because what SECOND claims supports JO's own beliefs.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:48 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Signy, JO's tether to reality is very poor. I cite noalf, RUSSIA!!!, and his COVID-19 helmet as examples, though there are many more. Once he gets an idea, no amount of reality will dislodge it. Don't waste any more of your time discussing his notions with him. You'll just lose time and you'll get nowhere.

I started out feeling sorry for JO. After reading his excuses and rationalizations and wishful thinking, I only feel irritated.
Since nothing I say will change his outlook - I mean, after all, he's convinced I'm "the enemy" and would reject anything I might offer- you're right. I'm just wasting my time.

ETA: He'll either figure out his life, or he won't.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:55 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I had the misfortune to be seated next to someone like JO at my very first professional conference in that field. I didn't notice that everyone else was savvy and avoiding that individual, and that I was playing an unwitting game of musical chairs, and that the end result was that there was no place to left to sit but the chair next to him. Still, it was an instructive experience!

Nevertheless, as the saying goes - once a philosopher, twice a pervert.

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Sunday, January 2, 2022 10:42 PM

I'm not familiar with that saying. Where on earth did that come from?

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Monday, January 3, 2022 4:22 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Voltaire-quote-Once-a-Philosopher-
twice-a-pervert-mean

What does the Voltaire quote: "Once a Philosopher, twice a pervert" mean?

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Monday, January 3, 2022 5:52 AM

rezident owtsidr

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:And yet, you seem to think that rich people would give away THEIR money - to you - just 'because'.

I'm hoping sum smartass on Wall Street will get the same UV notion that made 4M$ for the LEAF scammerz, do a Google and see my UVPK site, then think 'yes. I'll drop a mil on that befor I go to lunch.'

But, more likely, it wont be until the next variant blasts past the vaccinez and starts killing off Wall Street smartass'z familiarz.

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I may have an even better idea than you about how much money is out there.

You obviously do not. Robin Leach iz sneering at you from beyond the grave for saying that.

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So, how's your noalf going?

Its still there. Therez a Frendz uv Nooalf Club started by sumwun I dont no.

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You're flogging a solution to a problem that's already been solved - so it's faster - and it's also better, and cheaper.

Wi do you keep repeating that? You shoud hav notist that the 'lie repeat' thing duznt work on me or any uv the other memberz here.

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You know JO, I SPECIFICALLY mentioned N95s as the answer to COVID-19. You even quoted me.

Me mentioning that they are the most common duznt mean I wuz accuzing you uv prefering them.

And the N95z are not perfect. They arent even consistently good. I got a 3 pak at Walmart that looked to be good quality, but it turnz out the noze conforming metal strip iz too flimzy. Duznt matter how good the filter material works if its letting air in thru gaps.

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And not restrict field of vision? Hearing? Heat dissipation? Not require power? Be cheaper and easier to use than an N95? That never fogs up?

Hoo sed anything about not requiring power?

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Monday, January 3, 2022 6:03 AM

rezident owtsidr

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
ETA: another striking example, right here in this thread, is his belief in SECOND's post about not hiring a PI, merely because what SECOND claims supports JO's own beliefs.

2nd haz wut I call 'credibility'. Its wut youv thrown away with your support for Trump and the GoP.

Did you ever read https://howstupidarewe.blog/2021/06/24/liarz/ ? It gets even better in the comments.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 8:34 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by JO753:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
ETA: another striking example, right here in this thread, is his belief in SECOND's post about not hiring a PI, merely because what SECOND claims supports JO's own beliefs.

2nd haz wut I call 'credibility'. Its wut youv thrown away with your support for Trump and the GoP.

Did you ever read https://howstupidarewe.blog/2021/06/24/liarz/ ? It gets even better in the comments.

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Both Signym and 1kiki have complained about "mind-reading", which probably means to them having a theory about what invisible or undocumented ideas are roaming around in someone's mind or theorizing about a person's motivations for their actions. Nevertheless, if Signym and 1kiki tried to mind-read, they would conclude that second (that's me!) has no motive for spending money investigating in the real world, with a private eye or even an internet search, who those two really are. They already told me who they are in thousand different ways at fff.net.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, January 3, 2022 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-Voltaire-quote-Once-a-Philosopher-
twice-a-pervert-mean

What does the Voltaire quote: "Once a Philosopher, twice a pervert" mean?

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In this (anecdotal) case, Voltaire was asked to attend an orgy for a second time. He declined with the pertinent phrase.

By that he meant roughly:if you engage in a behavior once, you can justify it based on desire for qualitative, experiential insight of something you don't really understand. If you continue it to engage in it, however, you do so based on a genuine proclivity.

Related: "I'll try anything once" and "don't knock it until you've tried it."

Hilariously, that's not too far removed from the entire basis of Scientology.

Even more hilarious given that half of the Hollywood creeps are members.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by JO753:
2nd haz wut I call 'credibility'. Its wut youv thrown away with your support for Trump and the GoP.

Now I know you're just trolling.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 2:45 PM

rezident owtsidr

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Originally posted by second:Both Signym and 1kiki

Really, I think its just 1 guy. He or (less likely) she, iz running the 3 karakterz, Sig, 1Kiki & 6string. Maybe a few otherz also.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 2:47 PM

rezident owtsidr

Can we just get back on topic here?

2nd, wuduyu think uv the JENE figurine? I put an inordinant number uv owrz into it.

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Monday, January 3, 2022 2:48 PM

rezident owtsidr

PS, happy new yir, everybody!

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Monday, January 3, 2022 3:26 PM