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Tuesday, December 27, 2022 6:54 PM

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How Twitter Rigged the Covid Debate

The platform suppressed true information from doctors and public-health experts that was at odds with U.S. government policy.

By David Zweig

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By the time reporter David Zweig got to the 10th floor conference room at Twitter Headquarters on Market Street in San Francisco, the story of the Twitter Files was already international news. Matt Taibbi, Michael Shellenberger, Leighton Woodhouse, Abigail Shrier, Lee Fang and I had revealed evidence of hidden blacklists of Twitter users; the way Twitter acted as a kind of FBI subsidiary; and how company executives rewrote the platform’s policies on the fly to accommodate political bias and pressure.

What we had yet to crack was the story of Covid.

David has spent three years reporting on Covid—specifically the underlying science, or lack thereof, behind many of our nation’s policies. For years he had noticed and criticized a bias not only in the mainstream media’s coverage of the pandemic, but also in the way it was presented on platforms like Twitter. 

We couldn’t think of anyone better to tackle this story. — BW



https://www.thefp.com/p/how-twitter-rigged-the-covid-debate

It's time for prison, bitches.

Including you, Joe*.



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Tuesday, December 27, 2022 6:55 PM

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‘Be open to learning’: Democratic lawmaker blasted for deleting tweet after Elon Musk fact-check

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/democrat-ted-lieu-blaste
d-deleting-tweet-fact-check


LOLZ

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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 9:38 AM

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Fundraiser Aids Family Of Worcester Girl, 6, Who Died Suddenly ("unexpected illness")

https://patch.com/massachusetts/worcester/fundraiser-aids-family-worce
ster-girl-6-who-died-suddenly


Mum-of-two with no known health issues dies suddenly from a ‘one-in-a-million case of influenza’ (36 years old)

https://7news.com.au/news/world/mum-of-two-with-no-known-health-issues
-dies-suddenly-from-a-one-in-a-million-case-of-influenza-c-9315391


Tribute held for Oceanside student who died suddenly from heart condition (13 years old)

https://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/tribute-to-be-held-for-oceans
ide-student-who-died-suddenly-from-heart-condition
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Grant Wahl Died of a Burst Blood Vessel, His Family Says

An autopsy in New York showed that the journalist had a tear in the ascending aorta, a large vessel that carries blood from the heart.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/14/health/grant-wahl-death.html

ABC News’ ‘This Week’ producer Dax Tejera dead at 37 (heart attack)

https://nypost.com/2022/12/24/abc-news-this-week-producer-dax-tejera-d
ead-at-37
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Dad who died suddenly while walking in the Lake District with friends is named

Dave Rushworth had been enjoying a day out with pals when he suddenly dropped to the floor and became unresponsive

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/d
ad-who-died-suddenly-walking-25545992


Archaeological worker dies suddenly while in Kisatchie National Forest (24 years old; "heat exhaustion", while in the snow)

https://www.kplctv.com/2022/07/12/archaeological-worker-dies-suddenly-
while-kisatchie-national-forest
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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 9:38 AM

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Damar Hamlin in critical condition after suffering cardiac arrest; Bills-Bengals postponed

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35368372/damar-hamlin-collapses-fi
eld-bills-bengals-temporarily-suspended


24 years old.

How many of these are going to happen before the media starts questioning what ya'all shot yourselves up with?

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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 10:02 AM

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Hey all!

When this keeps happening to the point that nobody can deny that the shots are killing young people, how do you suppose it's going to effect the way that you sleep at night?

I'm not talking about you being scared of what is growing inside of you, although I'm sure that's going to be bothersome too.

I'm talking about how you either actively told other people to get them AND/OR shamed them if they didn't AND/OR cheerleaded Biden*'s effort to extort people's means to support their families if they didn't get it AND/OR or just sat back and said nothing.



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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 10:24 AM

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... stay crunchy...


Nobody died from the vaccine - take an Advil, Qaren.

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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Nobody died from the vaccine - take an Advil, Qaren.



Quoted for posterity.



They're dropping like flies all around you. Get your heart checked out, mudblood.

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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 11:55 AM

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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 12:03 PM

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Even Leftoid shit-rag WSJ is printing articles about this now.

The Twitter Blacklisting of Jay Bhattacharya
The social-media platform revealed that many had been censored and shadow-banned.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-twitter-blacklisting-of-jay-bhattacha
rya-medical-expert-covid-lockdown-stanford-doctor-shadow-banned-censorship-11670621083


Preserve your documents, Fauci. Don't leave the country.

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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 1:22 PM

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Buffalo Bills Confirm Hamlin Suffered "Cardiac Arrest", Remains In Critical Condition

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/monday-night-football-postponed-afte
r-bills-hamlin-collapses-receives-cpr-field


Still, I fail to see how this is any worse than getting one of the earlier strains of Covid. Somebody will have to show me a mechanism for how that might be possible, hopefully with supporting data, and so far nobody has.

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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 2:08 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Buffalo Bills Confirm Hamlin Suffered "Cardiac Arrest", Remains In Critical Condition

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/monday-night-football-postponed-afte
r-bills-hamlin-collapses-receives-cpr-field


Still, I fail to see how this is any worse than getting one of the earlier strains of Covid. Somebody will have to show me a mechanism for how that might be possible, hopefully with supporting data, and so far nobody has.

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They've all been silenced until recently.

You'll start getting the data you should have had before you made the choice soon.



Also, I know plenty of people who got early Covid. They're all still around. The people who I know who are dead now are the ones who were jabbed and boosted.

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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 2:57 PM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Buffalo Bills Confirm Hamlin Suffered "Cardiac Arrest", Remains In Critical Condition

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/monday-night-football-postponed-afte
r-bills-hamlin-collapses-receives-cpr-field


Still, I fail to see how this is any worse than getting one of the earlier strains of Covid. Somebody will have to show me a mechanism for how that might be possible, hopefully with supporting data, and so far nobody has.

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They've all been silenced until recently.

You'll start getting the data you should have had before you made the choice soon.



Also, I know plenty of people who got early Covid. They're all still around. The people who I know who are dead now are the ones who were jabbed and boosted.

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It takes more than data to make a case. I can find all kinds of correlations- the number of bananas consumed and babies born in the USA, for example. Like all correlations, A might cause B, B might cause A, A and B might both be caused by C, or it might be coincidence. I would like to see a MECHANISM as well.

AFA your anecdote, is it possible that you're dealing with self-selected populations? i.e. that people who were at higher risk anyway... the elderly, obese, diabetic, immune compromised for example, might have gotten vaccinated but that people who were younger and in relatively good health anyway would have skipped it?

You're always pounding on about "nobody died of Covid" bc you're always pointing to all the OTHER reasons they might have died, but are you making the same allowance for the vaccine?

At this point, people's arguments have become totally subjective. People have taken stances and nobody wants to be proven wrong.

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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 8:50 PM

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There's one thing that's changed in the last few years. That's the untested vaccine that was mandated for everyone over 12 and then offered to toddlers.

Now if you want to go blaming NGOs in our food or whatever for completely healthy and not-fat young people dying in numbers we haven't seen before, that's fine... But usually the simplest explanation is the right one and you're the one with the heavy burden of proof.

Even heaver since Monstanto is a private firm valued at anywhere between $60 Billion and $100 Billion and doesn't have any stockholders to answer to.


Also, your judgement is biased. You've been jabbed and boosted. It is in your best interest for me to be wrong. In fact, it's imperative.

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Tuesday, January 3, 2023 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's one thing that's changed in the last few years. That's the untested vaccine that was mandated for everyone over 12 and then offered to toddlers.

Now if you want to go blaming NGOs in our food or whatever for completely healthy and not-fat young people dying in numbers we haven't seen before, that's fine... But usually the simplest explanation is the right one and you're the one with the heavy burden of proof.

Even heaver since Monstanto is a private firm valued at anywhere between $60 Billion and $100 Billion and doesn't have any stockholders to answer to.


Also, your judgement is biased. You've been jabbed and boosted. It is in your best interest for me to be wrong. In fact, it's imperative.

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Uh... there were at least THREE things that changed, health wise, in the past few years:

Widespread infection with Covid. Up to 50pct of the USA infected with Covid. I'd have to bird dog the infection rate of the earlier strains, since they're more consequential. Covid, by itself, can result in "long Covid", even if the infection was initially mild.

Widespread effect of lockdowns. Isolation, drinking and drugging.

Widespread vaccination. Up to 65 pct of USA population injected.

Given the high percentage of people infected and the high percentage of people vaccinated, there's probably a fair number of people who were both infected AND vaccinated.

Do you know the infection status of these athletes? I don't.

Do you know the vaccination status? I don't.

Just pointing to an unusual number of athlete deaths and blaming the vaccine is a big assumption.

And still, I'd like a cogent explanation of how being exposed to a subset of viral proteins is more dangerous than being exposed to a whole panoply. That's like saying it's more dangerous to be exposed to cyanide than it is to be exposed to cyanide and carbon monoxide and asbestos.

Maybe there's a reason, but I don't know what it might be.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Uh... there were at least THREE things that changed, health wise, in the past few years:

Widespread infection with Covid. Up to 50pct of the USA infected with Covid. I'd have to bird dog the infection rate of the earlier strains, since they're more consequential. Covid, by itself, can result in "long Covid", even if the infection was initially mild.



Not buying it. This was told to us by people who shut down any opposing narratives. Even from Stanford doctors such as Jay Bhattachayra, via the CIA/FBI putting his Twitter profile on the "Trending Blacklist" to make sure that none of the information he was providing to the people was ever seen by anyone.

You, or anybody else, will NEVER convince me of the narrative that you believe, simply because of the MASSIVE behind the scenes lockdown on any information that wasn't part of the narrative for two whole fucking years.

Tens of thousands of doctors didn't agree with any of this, and they were all silenced.

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Widespread effect of lockdowns. Isolation, drinking and drugging.


That's not the people I'm showing you here. These are pro athletes. These are school athletes. These are media personalities. These are also just regular people. The thing they all have in common is that they're not fat and they're young.

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Widespread vaccination. Up to 65 pct of USA population injected.


Bingo. But not vaccinated. This wasn't a vaccine. Vaccines prevent infection and the spread of infection. These shots and boosters did neither, although for the first year that's what they said these shots would do, before that narrative crumbled before your very eyes and they started saying "oh, yeah... It doesn't do anything we said it would do, but trust us now when we say that it will lessen the symptoms instead."

Don't you remember those lies? You of all the people on this board?

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Given the high percentage of people infected and the high percentage of people vaccinated, there's probably a fair number of people who were both infected AND vaccinated.


Everybody I know who was vaccinated got Covid. Every single one.

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Do you know the infection status of these athletes? I don't.

Do you know the vaccination status? I don't.



I'm sure they got Covid. They were vaccinated. If they weren't vaccinated, they aren't allowed to play.

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Just pointing to an unusual number of athlete deaths and blaming the vaccine is a big assumption.


I'm not only pointing out the unusual number of athletes. I'm pointing out the unusual number of healthy young people who's hearts are spontaneously combusting. Something that didn't happen before widespread "vaccination" for Covid.

This is now including somebody I grew up with and was still a part of one of my friend's lives. I flew a kite with this dude when we were kids, and now he's dead and leaves a young wife and daughter to fend for themselves.

Don't get me started on how my healthy and athletic 30 year old cousin was diagnosed with Leukemia just months after getting the shot, and how his mom is borderline insane now.

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And still, I'd like a cogent explanation of how being exposed to a subset of viral proteins is more dangerous than being exposed to a whole panoply. That's like saying it's more dangerous to be exposed to cyanide than it is to be exposed to cyanide and carbon monoxide and asbestos.


Read the first section. Fuck these explanations they gave you when there was zero debate about them and GOD FAUCI was Lord Emperor of the Science.

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Maybe there's a reason, but I don't know what it might be.


The WEF wants 80% of us dead or infertile. That's your reason.


And until that happens, they're just going to let the criminals run amok, the inflation spiral out of control, the quality of living go down into the gutter, and just make most people wish they were dead. Canada already has a head start on this. You can just go to your doctor in Canada and ask them to kill you now.



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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 1:48 AM

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SIX, you're running so hard in the opposite direction of the media that your thoughts are just as determined by "them" as if you were in lock step.

Out of all of the scare stories that I've read ... the embalmers finding "strange clots", the pro athletes with heart attacks... the two facts that they leave out are whether they were,in fact,jabbed or if they ever had Covid.

Oh btw- there are plenty of media personalities with first-person accounts of "long covid". You believe some media personalities but not others?

Meanwhile, I know people first-hand who have "long Covid". I knew people first hand that Covid pushed over the edge and killed. I also know people who had Covid and recovered. And lots and lots of people who got "the jab" and who are doing fine. My real-life experience tells me different than those "thousands" of "silenced" doctors.

Now, to be fair, if Covid can produce "long Covid" then I suppose "the jab" could do something similar. But once again, HOW does this happen?

I think we need to agree to disagree.



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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 2:30 AM

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You are completely overlooking two basic facts.

1. Any opposition to the Narrative was silenced. Not just by Big Tech. Not just by Big Tech working in cahoots with our Government. But with actual FBI and CIA agents on the payroll at these firms doing the censorship themselves.

2. They lied to everyone and said that if you got the jab that you would not get Covid or spread it to others. And the only reason on earth that they ever could have backpedaled on that one happened... Nobody was protected from Covid or spreading Covid to others after they were jabbed.


That is all the proof anybody needs right there, not only to know that everything was a lie from the beginning, but that they should be questioning what the hell they were actually shot up with if it wasn't a vaccine.

And since a majority of Americans and people worldwide have this shit swimming in their veins, they don't want to talk about it. They don't even want to think about it.

And honestly, I can't say I blame them. There's probably nothing that can be done about it for any of you.


But at the same time, knowledge might be able to save your life with treatment even if there isn't a cure.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 11:11 AM

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Jeez. A bunch to read here, not time right now.

Did you catch that on Monday Night Football, a 24 year old NFL player collapsed on the playing field with massive cardiac arrest.

Twice.

NFL states that they don't know what the cause is, but they absolutely know that NO QUESTIONS ARE ALLOWED ABOUT YOUNG ATHLETES WORLDWIDE DYING AFTER VAXXING.
The NFL required Vaxxing during Libtard Lockdowns. One player who got in trouble for circumventing the requirements was Packers Quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who has also done numerous podcasts about Vaxx and sports.


Apparently the past 2 years, compared to the prior 120 years, had a 3,000% increase in these types of deaths.
Steve Deace wrote a book with info.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Nobody died from the vaccine - take an Advil, Qaren.




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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 11:58 AM

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Jeez. A bunch to read here, not time right now.

Did you catch that on Monday Night Football, a 24 year old NFL player collapsed on the playing field with massive cardiac arrest.

Twice.

NFL states that they don't know what the cause is, but they absolutely know that NO QUESTIONS ARE ALLOWED ABOUT YOUNG ATHLETES WORLDWIDE DYING AFTER VAXXING.
The NFL required Vaxxing during Libtard Lockdowns. One player who got in trouble for circumventing the requirements was Packers Quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who has also done numerous podcasts about Vaxx and sports.


Apparently the past 2 years, compared to the prior 120 years, had a 3,000% increase in these types of deaths.
Steve Deace wrote a book with info.



Yup. I mentioned him. Early morning yesterday on this thread, and in at least one other thread on this board before that.

But people like Ted and Cap'n and pretty much everybody else on this board along with 65% of Americans and likely a higher percentage around the world have a vested interest in keeping the narrative going, because admitting anything else would be terrifying for them.

So we're just going to pretend now that young, healthy people dying from blood clots and their heart exploding is something that always happened regularly before 2020.


Hopefully there doesn't end up being enough people that die from the jabs that they can't lie about it anymore. Yanno... like how they had to stop lying and telling people that getting jabbed and boosted would keep you from getting and spreading Covid.

My entire family except for one cousin might die from this.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 1:35 PM

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You are completely overlooking two basic facts.

1. Any opposition to the Narrative was silenced. Not just by Big Tech. Not just by Big Tech working in cahoots with our Government. But with actual FBI and CIA agents on the payroll at these firms doing the censorship themselves.

Well, despite having been "silenced" I managed to find A LOT of opposition to the jab and so, apparently, did you. But what I found was Dire Warnings and Dark Conspiracies, everything from "It's an untested technology" (true) to "This is part of Gates'/ Fauci's/ WEF's/ (fill the the blank's) conspiracy to sterilize everyone/ depopulate the globe" to the lunatic "The vax makes you smell of death". I followed them up, including Dr Malone. Even the last one. What I found was no solid research.

I also found no FACTS to support the drive for mandatory jabs, either. Since, ultimately, it might have slowed down but didn't prevent Covid transmission, and its main benefit appeared to be reducing hospitalizations and deaths (yeah, I know .. you firmly believe that while nobody died of Covid everyone who got the jab is going to keel over from it someday) it should be up to the individual to assess if Covid or the jab was riskier, definitely not required of anyone younger than 50 and in reasonably good health.

What I found were two tag-ends of suggestive research to which I could never find a resolution:

1) Israeli scientists tracked all of the negative effects of Covid to only 5 protein fragments. So, where are this fragments located?? On the nucleocapsid protein? The envelope protein? The spike protein? Some combination?? If they were all on the spike protein, that would make the jab particularly risky. I looked for an answer to that, but never found one.

2) one batch of the Pfizer version had significantly higher complication rate than other batches, which means that they didn't understand or have complete control of the manufacturing process.

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2. They lied to everyone and said that if you got the jab that you would not get Covid or spread it to others. And the only reason on earth that they ever could have backpedaled on that one happened... Nobody was protected from Covid or spreading Covid to others after they were jabbed.
So? All that means is that somebody had an abiding interest in pushing the jab. For all I know, this was the DNC's way of paying back big pharma for their contributions. Allowing them to fill their coffers before cracking down on Medicare drug costs.
Or maybe they knew something about the virus that we didn't (bc they funded the research, as a bioweapon?), and expected worse.

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That is all the proof anybody needs right there,
You have a very low bar for proof. The Chinese treated the original VIRUS with a high degree of fear, and enforced tight lockdowns until just a month ago. I think they suspected that Covid-19 was specifically being engineered as a bioweapon targeting the Asian genotype. Some think-tank types have voiced interest in that kind of research, altho they've typically focused on Russians.

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And since a majority of Americans and people worldwide have this shit swimming in their veins, they don't want to talk about it. They don't even want to think about it.
But that's not me.

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And honestly, I can't say I blame them. There's probably nothing that can be done about it for any of you.
Fear-mongerung.

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But at the same time, knowledge might be able to save your life with treatment even if there isn't a cure.
More Fear-mongering.
HOW is this supposed to work, SIX? You wouldn't fix wiring without knowing how, in detail. But details are lacking on this topic.

FWIW ALL vaccines... even long-used, highly studied vaccines like the polio vaccine... have side effects. Serious,life-changing and even life-ending side effects. There is no such thing as a totally benign vaccine.

I expect side effects from the Covid vaccine. They seem to circle around microclots which, so far, seems to be the same cause of long Covid.


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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 1:51 PM

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Given your reply above, I see no need to argue any of this further with you.

You are at least thinking of all possibilities, both on the surface and behind the scenes.


My LONGTIME distrust of the Government and the people really running the show worldwide absolutely give me a bias here. I won't argue that fact. But it doesn't mean that I'm wrong.


Take care of yourself. Get evaluated too. You have no idea what is inside of you because they hid that information from you before you were jabbed, and they're doing whatever they can to this day to keep that info from you.

They won't succeed in that. Especially now when young/healthy people keep dying like this. But anyone who has been "vaccinated" should adapt a sense of situational awareness that they weren't required to have before. At least until the real information that has been covered up and silenced for the last 3 years about this whole ordeal are brought to the surface and there is a means of treatment for the side effects (intended or otherwise).

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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 2:32 PM

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Oh BTW one way to (maybe) find out what's happening and how is with autopsy. Has nobody been autopsied?

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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 4:12 PM

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Oh BTW one way to (maybe) find out what's happening and how is with autopsy. Has nobody been autopsied?



I don't know...

https://www.medicinenet.com/does_everybody_get_an_autopsy_when_they_di
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Does everyone get an autopsy when they die? If not, who determines whether someone should get one?
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No, in fact, most people do not get an autopsy when they die. In cases of suspicious deaths, the medical examiner or coroner can order an autopsy to be performed, even without the consent of the next of kin. In all other cases (not of a medicolegal nature) the next-of-kin must give consent before an autopsy can be performed.

Sometimes family members decide that they want an autopsy performed to learn about possible genetic conditions or illnesses that may run in their family. An autopsy can also help provide closure to grieving families if there is uncertainty as to the cause of death. Sometimes the treating physician will request that the family give permission for an autopsy in order to assess the effectiveness of treatment or to confirm a clinical diagnosis.



These are all medical in nature. I would argue that anybody under 50 years old passing away from blood clots, aneurysms and heart attacks who isn't morbidly obese or otherwise already known to have preexisting conditions that would reasonably be assumed to cause these deaths would warrant an autopsy even without the events of the last three years (If for no other reason than to potentially save the life of a sibling or other close kin who might have a genetic issue like the deceased did). But especially now it should be done... with more reason every time an event like this occurs without any answers from anyone.

If the answer is no, and NONE of them have been autopsied, that's another reason for doubt right there as far as I'm concerned.

How would one even go about getting that information if the Media isn't doing their job? I would imagine that even in the event of the doctors ordering one without the family's consent, the privacy laws pertaining to medical records would not make it easy for Joe Nobody to request them.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 5:56 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh BTW one way to (maybe) find out what's happening and how is with autopsy. Has nobody been autopsied?



I don't know...

https://www.medicinenet.com/does_everybody_get_an_autopsy_when_they_di
e/ask.htm


Quote:

Does everyone get an autopsy when they die? If not, who determines whether someone should get one?
Doctor's response

No, in fact, most people do not get an autopsy when they die. In cases of suspicious deaths, the medical examiner or coroner can order an autopsy to be performed, even without the consent of the next of kin. In all other cases (not of a medicolegal nature) the next-of-kin must give consent before an autopsy can be performed.

Sometimes family members decide that they want an autopsy performed to learn about possible genetic conditions or illnesses that may run in their family. An autopsy can also help provide closure to grieving families if there is uncertainty as to the cause of death. Sometimes the treating physician will request that the family give permission for an autopsy in order to assess the effectiveness of treatment or to confirm a clinical diagnosis.



These are all medical in nature. I would argue that anybody under 50 years old passing away from blood clots, aneurysms and heart attacks who isn't morbidly obese or otherwise already known to have preexisting conditions that would reasonably be assumed to cause these deaths would warrant an autopsy even without the events of the last three years (If for no other reason than to potentially save the life of a sibling or other close kin who might have a genetic issue like the deceased did). But especially now it should be done... with more reason every time an event like this occurs without any answers from anyone.

If the answer is no, and NONE of them have been autopsied, that's another reason for doubt right there as far as I'm concerned.

How would one even go about getting that information if the Media isn't doing their job? I would imagine that even in the event of the doctors ordering one without the family's consent, the privacy laws pertaining to medical records would not make it easy for Joe Nobody to request them.

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Family can request autopsy. Sis requested one for mom even tho she was old and had longstanding COPD just to know if she could have done more.

If I were family member of athlete who died unexpectedly I would request one!

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Wednesday, January 4, 2023 7:22 PM

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Family can request autopsy. Sis requested one for mom even tho she was old and had longstanding COPD just to know if she could have done more.

If I were family member of athlete who died unexpectedly I would request one!

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Oh sure. I knew that... I thought I expressed that above.

But if the "journalists" out there aren't doing their jobs (which they aren't, because no story has ever even mentioned an autopsy), how would we do their jobs for them?

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Saturday, January 7, 2023 8:04 PM

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FUN FACT:

Before mRNA vaccines,

29 cardiac arrests per year in European sports,

AFTER the vaccine, 1,500 in ONE year.

That’s a 435% increase after the shots. 2/3rds of these were ultimately lethal.


I'm sure it's just from processed food, or maybe the same magic that makes your plug outlets charge your cars or something.

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Saturday, January 7, 2023 8:08 PM

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Why are so many YOUNG people dying suddenly? What are we not being told?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1611037374200381440

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Saturday, January 7, 2023 8:14 PM

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The rich demand UNVACCINATED pilots. Cant risk sudden death in the air.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1610603825920102400

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You will laugh at Late Night CIA propaganda or you will die.



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Monday, January 9, 2023 10:45 AM

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You will laugh at Late Night CIA propaganda or you will die.



Wow... Here's the video of the actual performance.



That is top-tier cringe right there. Nobody in the audience laughed. Not one single person.

And he looks fucking exhausted when the song is done. Thank god it was only a minute long. You should get your heart checked out, Jimmy Mudblood.


You know who I feel bad for? The Roots. They're far too talented for Jimmy or any of these Late Night propagandists. And I'm sure they were forced to get vaccinated too.


ETA: The comments on this video are great.

- It's like watching television in the Soviet Union.

- If you look closely you can almost see the puppet strings

- Good God. Even people in North Korea are watching this and going “Geez guys, turn down the propaganda a bit”

- It's interesting to watch the end of this. I could be wrong, but Jimmy Fallon seems legitimately disgusted by himself immediately afterwards.

- I afraid Jimmy is going to have a heart attack watching this.

- This is like something out of a David Lynch film. Truly discomforting with sinister undertones.

- his face at the end says everything you need to know about whats going on

- You dance and sing like this when you’ve been on the Lolita Express…

- Jamming to this on the way to get me and my emotional support dog's 6th booster to help fight the virus and conspiracy theorists

- I came to see the comment section eviscerate Fallon and SNL and I was not disappointed.

- Schwab: "Dance clown, dance! Hahaha! Eat ze bugs!"

- Remember when The Roots were a highly respected hip hop group? Yeah, me neither.

- and this is why I quit watching network tv around 3 years ago...

- This comment section restores my faith in humanity


I think I could literally copy and paste these things all day if I wanted to.

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Obesity and the End of the Vaxxing Debate?
Ron Unz • January 9, 2023

Over the last couple of years, our alternative media website has been flooded by a vast number of zealous anti-vaxxers, promoting their fears of the Covid vaccines with tremendous energy and commitment.

On its face, such concerns with the Covid vaccination drive hardly seem unreasonable. The vaccines used in most Western countries have been based upon an entirely new mRNA technology, in which the body’s own cellular machinery is actually hijacked to produce portions of the Covid spike-protein,

Not entirely new. That is the mechanism for live attenutated vaccines. But I digress..

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and new medical innovations sometimes have negative consequences. The lockdowns originally implemented to control the Covid epidemic proved highly unpopular and increasingly unworkable, so the vaccines were rushed into production and release, circumventing the long process of clinical trials that would otherwise have been required.

It’s hardly surprising that many people would be unnerved by the widespread use of a radical new medical technology introduced without sufficient testing.

But I don’t have any background in medicine or microbiology, and it seemed that the overwhelming majority of medical professionals believed that the risks of the Covid vaccine were considerably lower than the risks of serious Covid illness. So after waiting a few months, I got myself vaccinated in mid-2021. Neither I nor anyone I knew had any ill effects from the shots, and I soon stopped paying much attention to the issue.

Meanwhile, the alarms raised by some of the louder anti-vaxxers became more and more extreme, sometimes predicting that the vaccinations would kill millions or even many hundreds of millions. Quite a lot of the anti-vaxxers on this lightly moderated website also began cluttering up unrelated articles with their fervent anti-vaxxing comments, which greatly irritated me.

Although I wasn’t much interested in the issue, I decided that the anti-vaxxers sounded like a bunch of total crack-pots and said so in an interview, immediately provoking an avalanche of overwhelmingly hostile responses, which eventually totaled more than 850,000 words.

Are the Opponents of the Covid Injections “Anti-Vaxx Crackpots”?
Mike Whitney Interview with Ron Unz
The Unz Review • August 1, 2021 • 9,000 Words • 1,681 Comments


Since then, every six months or so, I’ve published another column on the vaxxing controversy, pointing to the increasingly strong indications that anti-vaxxing concerns had been hugely exaggerated and there was very little evidence the vaccines were causing any significant numbers of deaths. Each time, my remarks have aroused another huge wave of extremely angry responses from militant anti-vaxxers:

Covid Deaths and Vaxxing Deaths
The Unz Review • January 17, 2022 • 2,800 Words • 1,409 Comments
Vaxxing Conspiracies and 700,000 Rumble Views
The Unz Review • July 18, 2022 • 2,800 Words • 941 Comments
Vaxxing Deaths or Covid Deaths?
The Unz Review • January 2, 2023 • 3,300 Words • 1,036 Comments


In my latest article published last week, I noted that most anti-vaxxers have claimed that Covid vaccinations had produced a large wave of fatal heart attacks and strokes. However, although American deaths from those causes have indeed risen quite substantially from 2019, nearly all of that increase occurred in 2020, before the Covid vaccination drive began,

He writes later that vaccination began in Dec 2020, eliminating nearly all of 2020 from the vax debate

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while the numbers remained almost unchanged in 2021 and 2022. This suggested that the rise was caused by the Covid infections of 2020 rather than the vaccines later deployed to control them, and scientific studies have already demonstrated that even mild Covid infections lead to a greatly increased future risk of heart attacks and strokes. And if the massive amount of vaxxing and boosting that began early in 2021 had almost no impact upon such mortality totals, it seemed unlikely that they have been causing very many deaths.

I had summarized my findings in a few simple points:

Vaxxing only began on December 14, 2020, so it would have had almost no public health impact during that year.
Except for homicides and accidents, nearly all the major changes in American death rates occurred in 2020, so these must have been due to Covid.
Except for homicides and accidents, non-Covid deaths rates showed almost no change in 2021 and 2022, so the vaccines probably had no impact one way or the other.


 After publishing that piece, I had planned to once again set aside the topic for another half-year or so, then review six additional months of data that I expected would further strengthen my original conclusions. However, some additional information was soon brought to my attention that seemed to finally settle the vaxxing controversy once and for all.

First, a very level-headed commenter from Iceland calling himself “Niceland” noted that except for the elderly, his own country’s population had experienced no noticeable increase in deaths during the last couple of years, despite the very heavy vaxxing regime it had followed. He then checked, and discovered that the same was true of Denmark and a couple of other nearby European countries. Since the overwhelming majority of the populations were vaxxed, and those younger than about 65 showed no significant excess mortality, it seemed unlikely that vaxxing had caused any substantial number of deaths.

Around the same time, someone else brought to my attention a very useful website affiliated with UC Berkeley and the Max Planck Institute that provides a very easy means of displaying decades of excess mortality statistics for dozens of countries. These mortality results presented can be stratified by gender and various age-groups, and the reference years used to calculate the “excess” can also be selected.

The Human Mortality Database – Short-Term Mortality Fluctuations
https://mpidr.shinyapps.io/stmortality/

So I decided to repeat Niceland’s analysis for all the countries available. I focused upon total deaths for working-age individuals age 15-64, used the average mortality rates for the years 2015-2019 as the reference, and examined the totals for the years 2020, 2021, and 2022.

Covid mortality rates are very sharply age-skewed, with a huge fraction of the deaths concentrated in the elderly. Therefore, the particular age distribution of a country might easily overwhelm other factors in determining overall mortality rates, while focusing upon working-age individuals tends to minimize this distortion. Also, ordinary Covid deaths are relatively low in that age-range, allowing us to more easily detect the mortality impact of other possible factors such as vaxxing or “long Covid.”

I quickly discovered that many of those nations had actually experienced large “mortality deficits” for that age group during those years. Far fewer working-age individuals had died during 2021 and 2022 than would have been predicted in 2019.

Some of the strongest examples of this remarkable effect included countries such as France, Sweden, South Korea, Denmark, Belgium, and Finland, but roughly half of all the countries using Western Covid vaccines had such noticeable mortality deficits. All of these countries were very heavily vaxxed, yet their working-age death rates had dropped below normal levels in those years, presumably because the lockdowns and social distancing had reduced deaths from other sorts of contagious diseases and from traffic accidents.

Here are a few of the mortality-rate graphs as examples, with the blue color representing the “mortality deficit,” but anyone can go to the website and check any of the different countries and years.
France Working-Age Mortality, 2022
France Working-Age Mortality, 2022
Swedish Working-Age Mortality, 2022
Swedish Working-Age Mortality, 2022
South Korean Working-Age Mortality, 2021
South Korean Working-Age Mortality, 2021

Admittedly, there were also some European countries that had relatively flat death rates and a couple that showed substantial increases. But if many or most of these very heavily vaxxed countries showed sharp drops in their working-age death rates, it seemed very unlikely that the vaccines were responsible for killing significant numbers of such individuals.

When I mentioned my striking findings during a recent interview on Kevin Barrett’s show, he raised the possibility that the wave of 2020 Covid infections had killed off many of the weakest individuals, thereby producing a decline in mortality rates during 2021 and 2022 that masked the additional deaths produced by the vaxxing. However, this could not have been the case for France or most of those other countries, which had also had mortality deficits during 2020 as well:
France Working-Age Mortality, 2020
France Working-Age Mortality, 2020

These results are not nearly as surprising as they might seem. Under normal circumstances, Covid infections are only very rarely fatal to the non-elderly, and when we add the impact of the vaccines and the widespread appearance of the mild Omicron variant in late 2021, working-age Covid deaths would have been very low, apparently overwhelmed by the disappearance of other contagious diseases and sharp reductions in traffic accidents. So many European countries had unusually low working-age mortality rates for all of the last three years.

 
The United States, however, was an extreme outlier to this pattern, and our working-age population had very high “excess mortality” rates in both 2021 and 2022, as can be seen in the following couple of charts:
US Working-Age Mortality, 2021
US Working-Age Mortality, 2021
US Working-Age Mortality, 2022
US Working-Age Mortality, 2022

Such extremely high recent American death rates among the non-elderly probably helps to explain why large numbers of our citizens have become convinced that the vaccines used here have had deadly side-effects. However, this explanation seems unlikely since mortality rates had actually been just as high or even higher during most of 2020, starting with the earliest days of the Covid outbreak and rising long before the vaccination drive had begun at the end of that year:
US Working-Age Mortality, 2020
US Working-Age Mortality, 2020

So while many other countries have experienced three consecutive years of unusually low working-ages death rates, our own unfortunate country has had three consecutive years of unusually high mortality, the worst results by far for any developed nation.

Although there are many possible reasons for America’s disastrous performance, the likeliest explanation becomes obvious once we explore which other countries have also had large increases in mortality. Those having the highest rates of working-age excess deaths include Canada, Chile, England, and Scotland. For example, Canada’s 2020 mortality results looked quite similar to our own, except that its Covid epidemic began a few weeks earlier than the one in the US.
Canada Working-Age Mortality, 2020
Canada Working-Age Mortality, 2020

These countries may be politically and economically dissimilar, but they all place very high in the international obesity rankings, with the US easily leading the developed world in that physical measure. We know that the Covid disease is much more likely to be serious or fatal among the obese, so it’s hardly surprising that deaths among such working-age individuals would be greatly elevated compared with those for the relatively slimmer populations of Sweden, France, Denmark, Finland, and various other countries.

More than thirty of the countries whose mortality statistics are available on the HMD website also have their obesity rates shown by the World Populations Review website, and it’s not difficult to produce a table providing these along with their working-age mortality results for 2020-2022, listed by descending obesity percentages:
Country Obesity %Working-Age MortalityRates, 2020-2022
United States 36 Very High
New Zealand 31 High
Australia 29 High
Canada 29 Very High
Chile 28 Very High
England 28 Very High
Scotland 28 Very High
Hungary 26 Low
Israel 26 High
Lithuania 26 Low
Bulgaria 25 High
Greece 25 High
Croatia 24 Low
Latvia 24 Low
Spain 24 High
Luxembourg 23 Flat
Norway 23 Very Low
Poland 23 Low
Belgium 22 Low
Finland 22 Very Low
France 22 Very Low
Germany 22 Flat
Iceland 22 High
Estonia 21 Low
Portugal 21 Flat
Sweden 21 Very Low
Austria 20 Flat
Denmark 20 Very Low
Italy 20 Flat
Netherlands 20 Low
Slovakia 20 Flat
Slovenia 20 Very Low
Switzerland 19 Low
South Korea 5 Low

Although the match is far from perfect, there does seem to be a strong relationship between the obesity of the countries and their relative mortality rates for 2020-2022. All the countries with the highest obesity rates had high or very high mortality rates, while the countries with the lowest obesity rates generally had low or very low mortality rates.

On a quantitative basis, if we compare the national obesity figures to the working-age excess mortality percentages across those countries, we get moderately strong correlations:
Time Period Obesity/Mortality Correlation
2020 0.53
2021 0.55
2022 0.45
2020-22 0.56

Since we know that the severity of the Covid illness is heavily influenced by obesity, this strongly reinforces our conclusion that Covid infections were the main driving factor in these mortality differences. And although there are some exceptions, nearly all the countries whose working-age populations had high mortality results in 2021 and 2022 had also had high mortality results in 2020, before the vaccinations had begun. This suggests that the combination of Covid infections with obesity had been responsible rather than the vaccinations.

I recently discussed all these issues with Kevin Barrett on his show, and here’s a link for those who would like to listen to our hour-long discussion:
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Unless anti-vaxxers can produce a more plausible explanation for this very strong international pattern, their hypothesis that the vaccines rather than the lingering consequences of Covid infections are causing significant numbers of deaths seems to have been decisively refuted. Thus, I think that the bitter vaxxing debate of the last couple of years may now be nearly over.

In the past I’ve been told that prominent critics of the Covid vaccines such as Steve Kirsch and Bret Weinstein have challenged anyone to debate them on the issue, and some had suggested that I do so, but I’ve always demurred. Although my very occasional columns on the subject have been strongly skeptical of the anti-vaxxing position, I’ve never felt that they made a sufficiently strong affirmative case on the other side to be worth presenting.

However, I do now regard my recent pair of articles as quite conclusive on the subject, and I would welcome an opportunity to debate my analysis with Kirsch, Weinstein, or any other prominent anti-vaxxers.

Meanwhile, I find it far more puzzling that the large role that national obesity levels seem to have played in determining the mortality rates of the last three years hasn’t already become the subject of numerous high-profile academic studies in the medical journals, heavily promoted in the mainstream media. For example, I had had no inkling that the differences in working-age mortality rates across those countries were so extreme until I explored the numbers on that HMD website a few days ago, and the explanation for those striking variations quickly became obvious.

 
EPub Format • Mobi/Kindle
EPub Format? • Mobi/Kindle?

Regarding an unrelated aspect of the Covid epidemic, I have been very pleased at the considerable wave of interest my podcast interviews from last February on the origins of the virus have recently received, accumulating over 120,000 additional views in just the last week.

Since April 2020, I have published a long series of articles making the case that the Covid outbreak was due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), and my analysis is conveniently presented in those discussions.

Covid/Biowarfare Series
Ron Unz • The Unz Review • April 2020-December 2021 • 60,000 Words


In particular, one of those interviews just broke a million views on Rumble, with another now passing 800,000 views and likely to eventually reach that same milestone.

One of the most popular stars on Rumble is rightwinger Dan Bongino, and only two of his many hundreds of videos have reached the million mark, while the same is also true for Glenn Greenwald, the most prominent journalist using that platform.

So my Covid interviews seem to have become among the most extremely popular videos on that small but relatively uncensored platform, and without shadow-banning, I think they would have accumulated an order-of-magnitude more viewership on Youtube, given the latter’s vastly larger audience.



when I get a chance I'll try to include the graphs and charts, but you can find the original with all of the visuals and links here

https://www.unz.com/runz/obesity-and-the-end-of-the-vaxxing-debate/
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Monday, January 9, 2023 5:29 PM

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So, just to mull on this a bit...

I'm still stuck on "how" vaccines are supposed to be more dangerous than the virus itself.

My across the street neighbor, who had non-hospitalized Covid a couple of years ago, just had a small stroke. Should I immediately assume it was caused by Covid?

I can imagine a common pathway. IF pathology is caused ONLY by the spike protein, then maybe you get the same long-term effects from the vaccine as from Covid. From what I know of heart physiology - which isn't much- heart muscles aren't "just" passive conductors of the nerve impulse that causes it to beat in rhythm. (There is a bundle of nerves in the upper chamber of the heart that causes the "spark" that starts each contraction, that impulse travels down both nerves and through the heart muscle itself to make all four chambers beat at the right time.) Damaged portions of the muscle itself can create its own impulse. This happens more with high adrenaline levels (such as happens under stress, excitement or extreme physical exertion) and the heart can go into arrhythmia, which can be fatal.

So all that's needed is a small spot of damage... a small clot in small artery, for example... which can cause the heart to stop beating rhythmically and the person dies.

Again, I can see this happening as a result of Covid and (if I make certain assumptions) as a result of "the jab" as well. But this would affect athletes more than anyone since they're operating at peak performance. (Also, national-league athletes take a lot of drugs for pain and inflammation, and sometimes for performance enhancement, so there's that complicating factor)

One aspect of reporting is they way they report sports deaths. 3000% increase!!

If you have one death and it increases to 2, that's a 100% increase. If it increases to 4, that's 300%. If it increases to about 30, that's 3000%. A huge percentage but still a small number. It's suggestive, and I would certainly be looking for a cause, but that would require a detailed medical history and an autopsy. Not the usual gross pathology autopsy but microtoming heart sections.

FWIW I had serious heart arrhythmia long before the vaccine ever showed up.

Yeah, I know, I'm just a series of medical maladies.


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Monday, January 9, 2023 7:17 PM

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Speaking of suggestive though, did you see today's Twitter Files?

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1/ My first #TwitterFiles report: how @scottgottliebmd - a top Pfizer board member - used the same Twitter lobbyist as the White House to suppress debate on Covid vaccines, INCLUDING FROM A FELLOW HEAD OF @US_FDA!


https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1612526697038897167

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From the Twitter Files: Pfizer board member Scott Gottlieb secretly pressed Twitter to hide posts challenging his company's massively profitable Covid jabs
To funnel his demands, Gottlieb used the same Twitter lobbyist the White House did - fresh evidence of overlap between the company selling mRNA shots and the government forcing them on the public.



https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/from-the-twitter-files-pfizer-boar
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People are going to prison over this when it's all said and done.



And I hope I am wrong about what the vaccinations and boosters are going to do to people. I like you and Brenda. I also like my family.

But you were all lied to, and I was right about it the whole time. And I took a LOT of abuse about it for years on this forum. I appreciate that you managed to keep that in check for the most part yourself.

The difference between Conspiracy Theory and Fact in the 2020's is about 6 months to a year.

And anybody can say whatever they want to about Elon Musk. He's a goddamned hero for making all of this public.

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Jeez. A bunch to read here, not time right now.

Did you catch that on Monday Night Football, a 24 year old NFL player collapsed on the playing field with massive cardiac arrest.

Twice.

NFL states that they don't know what the cause is, but they absolutely know that NO QUESTIONS ARE ALLOWED ABOUT YOUNG ATHLETES WORLDWIDE DYING AFTER VAXXING.
The NFL required Vaxxing during Libtard Lockdowns. One player who got in trouble for circumventing the requirements was Packers Quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who has also done numerous podcasts about Vaxx and sports.


Apparently the past 2 years, compared to the prior 120 years, had a 3,000% increase in these types of deaths.
Steve Deace wrote a book with info.



Yup. I mentioned him. Early morning yesterday on this thread, and in at least one other thread on this board before that.

But people like Ted and Cap'n and pretty much everybody else on this board along with 65% of Americans and likely a higher percentage around the world have a vested interest in keeping the narrative going, because admitting anything else would be terrifying for them.

So we're just going to pretend now that young, healthy people dying from blood clots and their heart exploding is something that always happened regularly before 2020.


Hopefully there doesn't end up being enough people that die from the jabs that they can't lie about it anymore. Yanno... like how they had to stop lying and telling people that getting jabbed and boosted would keep you from getting and spreading Covid.

My entire family except for one cousin might die from this.

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This was Monday Night Football, Bills playing at Cincinatti.
Couple days later, Biden celebrating with his good buddy Mitch McConnell.
In Kentucky.
In Covington, KY.
AKA "Cincinatti Airport"
Which is why airport code is CVG.
They were so proud of their Vaxx mandates and Libtard Lockdowns and "social media" Lockdowns.



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Tuesday, January 10, 2023 8:20 PM

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Jeez. A bunch to read here, not time right now.

Did you catch that on Monday Night Football, a 24 year old NFL player collapsed on the playing field with massive cardiac arrest.

Twice.

NFL states that they don't know what the cause is, but they absolutely know that NO QUESTIONS ARE ALLOWED ABOUT YOUNG ATHLETES WORLDWIDE DYING AFTER VAXXING.
The NFL required Vaxxing during Libtard Lockdowns. One player who got in trouble for circumventing the requirements was Packers Quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who has also done numerous podcasts about Vaxx and sports.


Apparently the past 2 years, compared to the prior 120 years, had a 3,000% increase in these types of deaths.
Steve Deace wrote a book with info.



Yup. I mentioned him. Early morning yesterday on this thread, and in at least one other thread on this board before that.

But people like Ted and Cap'n and pretty much everybody else on this board along with 65% of Americans and likely a higher percentage around the world have a vested interest in keeping the narrative going, because admitting anything else would be terrifying for them.

So we're just going to pretend now that young, healthy people dying from blood clots and their heart exploding is something that always happened regularly before 2020.


Hopefully there doesn't end up being enough people that die from the jabs that they can't lie about it anymore. Yanno... like how they had to stop lying and telling people that getting jabbed and boosted would keep you from getting and spreading Covid.

My entire family except for one cousin might die from this.

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This was Monday Night Football, Bills playing at Cincinatti.
Couple days later, Biden celebrating with his good buddy Mitch McConnell.
In Kentucky.
In Covington, KY.
AKA "Cincinatti Airport"
Which is why airport code is CVG.
They were so proud of their Vaxx mandates and Libtard Lockdowns and "social media" Lockdowns.



And the past week hav had medical updates of the player's progress.
They talk about his lungs are improving.

??????
Wait. WHAT?

Lungs?
He had several cardiac arrests. Like Heart Attacks.

If we pretend that these events had NOTHING to do with the Vaxx which the NFL required players to be subjected to (supposedy a treatment for some respiratory ailment), then what do LUNGS have to do with a heart attack.
Sure, they are nearby organs, and connected.

But I don't recall any of our defibrillators causing any form of lung damage, or training or incidents suggesting such a link. And there is doubt that a defibrillator was even used on last Mondy.

Same with CPR - I never heard of or had training regarding lung damage of a full adult, let alone prime athlete, having lung damage from CPR. Only baby lungs, or small capacity lungs.


WTF are they talking about?

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Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Two former employees sue ESPN over COVID vaccine mandate

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3809693-two-former-employees-sue-es
pn-over-covid-vaccine-mandate
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Open the floodgates.

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Thursday, January 12, 2023 9:20 PM

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CDC Finally Released Its VAERS Safety Monitoring Analyses for COVID Vaccines via FOIA - And now it's clear why they tried to hide them.

https://jackanapes.substack.com/p/cdc-finally-released-its-vaers-safet
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CDC’s VAERS safety signal analysis based on reports from Dec. 14, 2020 – July 29, 2022 for mRNA COVID-19 vaccines shows clear safety signals for death and a range of highly concerning thrombo-embolic, cardiac, neurological, hemorrhagic, hematological, immune-system and menstrual adverse events (AEs) among U.S. adults.

There were 770 different types of adverse events that showed safety signals in ages 18+, of which over 500 (or 2/3) had a larger safety signal than myocarditis/pericarditis.

The CDC analysis shows that the number of serious adverse events reported in less than two years for mRNA COVID-19 vaccines is 5.5 times larger than all serious reports for vaccines given to adults in the US since 2009 (~73,000 vs. ~13,000).

Twice as many mRNA COVID-19 vaccine reports were classified as serious compared to all other vaccines given to adults (11% vs. 5.5%). This meets the CDC definition of a safety signal.

There are 96 safety signals for 12-17 year-olds, which include: myocarditis, pericarditis, Bell’s Palsy, genital ulcerations, high blood pressure and heartrate, menstrual irregularities, cardiac valve incompetencies, pulmonary embolism, cardiac arrhythmias, thromboses, pericardial and pleural effusion, appendicitis and perforated appendix, immune thrombocytopenia, chest pain, increased troponin levels, being in intensive care, and having anticoagulant therapy.

There are 66 safety signals for 5-11 year-olds, which include: myocarditis, pericarditis, ventricular dysfunction and cardiac valve incompetencies, pericardial and pleural effusion, chest pain, appendicitis & appendectomies, Kawasaki’s disease, menstrual irregularities, vitiligo, and vaccine breakthrough infection.

The safety signals cannot be dismissed as due to “stimulated,” exaggerated, fraudulent or otherwise artificially inflated reporting, nor can they be dismissed due to the huge number of COVID vaccines administered. There are several reasons why, but the simplest one is this: the safety signal analysis does not depend on the number of reports, but whether or not some AEs are reported at a higher rate for these vaccines than for other non-COVID vaccines. Other reasons are discussed in the full post below.

In August, 2022, the CDC told the Epoch Times that the results of their safety signal analysis “were generally consistent with EB [Empirical Bayesian] data mining [conducted by the FDA], revealing no additional unexpected safety signals.” So either the FDA’s data mining was consistent with the CDC’s method—meaning they "generally" found the same large number of highly alarming safety signals—or the signals they did find were expected. Or they were lying. We may never know because the FDA has refused to release their data mining results.


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Friday, January 13, 2023 4:28 PM

SIGNYM

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A more complete report with explanations and links not behind a subscription or paywall here

Https://dailyclout.io/cdc-finally-released-its-vaers-safety-monitoring
-analyses-for-covid-vaccines-via-foia
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Since Israel was HEAVILY vaccinated and they have extensive health monitoring of their (Jewish) citizens, I would look there for good analysis. What Israel did is what I've been advocating all along: the risk from vaccination versus the risk from the disease itself.

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We used data from the largest health care organization in Israel to evaluate the safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine. For each potential adverse event, in a population of persons with no previous diagnosis of that event, we individually matched vaccinated persons to unvaccinated persons according to sociodemographic and clinical variables. Risk ratios and risk differences at 42 days after vaccination were derived with the use of the Kaplan–Meier estimator.

To place these results in context, we performed a similar analysis involving SARS-CoV-2–infected persons matched to uninfected persons. The same adverse events were studied in the vaccination and SARS-CoV-2 infection analyses.

Results

In the vaccination analysis, the vaccinated and control groups each included a mean of 884,828 persons. Vaccination was most strongly associated with an elevated risk of myocarditis (risk ratio, 3.24; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.55 to 12.44; risk difference, 2.7 events per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 1.0 to 4.6), lymphadenopathy (risk ratio, 2.43; 95% CI, 2.05 to 2.78; risk difference, 78.4 events per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 64.1 to 89.3), appendicitis (risk ratio, 1.40; 95% CI, 1.02 to 2.01; risk difference, 5.0 events per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 0.3 to 9.9), and herpes zoster infection (risk ratio, 1.43; 95% CI, 1.20 to 1.73; risk difference, 15.8 events per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 8.2 to 24.2).

SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a substantially increased risk of myocarditis (risk ratio, 18.28; 95% CI, 3.95 to 25.12; risk difference, 11.0 events per 100,000 persons; 95% CI, 5.6 to 15.8) and of additional serious adverse events, including pericarditis, arrhythmia, deep-vein thrombosis, pulmonary embolism, myocardial infarction, intracranial hemorrhage, and thrombocytopenia.

Conclusions

In this study in a nationwide mass vaccination setting, the BNT162b2 vaccine was not associated with an elevated risk of most of the adverse events examined. The vaccine was associated with an excess risk of myocarditis (1 to 5 events per 100,000 persons). The risk of this potentially serious adverse event and of many other serious adverse events was substantially increased after SARS-CoV-2 infection. (Funded by the Ivan and Francesca Berkowitz Family Living Laboratory Collaboration at Harvard Medical School and Clalit Research Institute.)



https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2110475

Digging into the report further, the vaccine does have an increased risk of appendicitis over Covid-19. I'm going to read this report further. Also, I want to see if they stratified this by age.

As I've posted before, I think it should have been up to each individual to decide on the risk of doing "something" (the jab) v the risk of getting sick.

Meanwhile, I'll be perusing the long-term vax effects in young people. Do these adverse events fade with time? Or are they time bombs just waiting to explode?


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Saturday, January 14, 2023 8:49 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The scientific case against face masks.

https://unherd.com/thepost/the-scientific-case-against-facemasks/

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Saturday, January 14, 2023 9:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Fauci: People are spouting out a lot of things about me and Twitter. I have never used Twitter.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/01/13/fauci_people_are_sp
outing_out_a_lot_of_things_about_me_and_twitter_i_have_never_used_twitter.html



Yeah? And Harry Truman wasn't piloting the Enola Gay or the Bockscar either.



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Saturday, January 14, 2023 9:26 PM

SIGNYM

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CDC Says Stroke Concerns Over Pfizer Jab Warrant Investigation

Saturday, Jan 14, 2023 - 04:00 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says that data collected on the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine merits an investigation into potential stroke risks for people aged 65 and older.

"Following the availability and use of the updated (bivalent) COVID-19 vaccines, CDC’s Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD), a near real-time surveillance system, met the statistical criteria to prompt additional investigation into whether there was a safety concern for ischemic stroke in people ages 65 and older who received the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, Bivalent," reads a Friday statement.



This is for the latest bivalent booster which promised protection against Omicron and the original strains. But by then, the virus had mutated again, and it was no longer worth getting jabbed.

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Saturday, January 14, 2023 10:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I hope that means that you and your family didn't get it Sigs.

None of my family went any further than the first booster. Most of them regret getting jabbed at all, but fortunately my "I told you so's" to them up to this point have only been for the way they feel about it now compared to where their minds were at when the government and media was terrorizing everyone.

Unless you count my 30 year old cousin who was diagnosed with Leukemia within 6 months of getting jabbed...

I'm not counting that yet. But I'm not discounting it either.




No matter what happens, everyone who was jabbed even once is a test subject.

I hope it works out. We won't really know the full picture for many years to come.

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Sunday, January 15, 2023 4:23 PM

SIGNYM

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I hope that means that you and your family didn't get it Sigs.

None of my family went any further than the first booster. Most of them regret getting jabbed at all, but fortunately my "I told you so's" to them up to this point have only been for the way they feel about it now compared to where their minds were at when the government and media was terrorizing everyone.

Unless you count my 30 year old cousin who was diagnosed with Leukemia within 6 months of getting jabbed...

I'm not counting that yet. But I'm not discounting it either.




No matter what happens, everyone who was jabbed even once is a test subject.

I hope it works out. We won't really know the full picture for many years to come.

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No, we didn't get the bivalent. Dear daughter gave up a volunteer job bc they required boosters.

But please don't attribute every gorram disease to the jab, SIX. I had heart palpitations and cancer BEFORE Covid ever existed, and far too many of my source testing friends died way too young, before Covid. (Prostate cancer, heart attack, dissected aorta, massive stroke, pancreatic cancer ... all normal-weight physically active men under the age of 60. Maybe there's some sort of occupational risk there.). One of their sons died of an overdose. My second-in-command had myocarditis at 33. All before Covid.

This current press pile-on, scouring the globe for every single young person's death, and attributing it all to "the jab" even tho the cause of death hasn't even been determined yet is just as stupid as RUSSIA! RUSSIA! Nobody finds out what's really going on that way.



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Sunday, January 15, 2023 5:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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This current press pile-on, scouring the globe for every single young person's death, and attributing it all to "the jab" even tho the cause of death hasn't even been determined yet is just as stupid as RUSSIA! RUSSIA! Nobody finds out what's really going on that way.



I'm not going to be able to find anything, because there's no reason to trust anyone about anything.

In the meantime, a lot of people are dying now, and we have a LOT of evidence of government in cahoots with media and social media to silence any dissenting opinon.

Maybe you don't remember all the bullshit that was said about me here for not buying into a narrative that now has been proven to be one total fabrication after another as it went on. Especially from Kiki.

Pfizer and Moderna made tens of billions off of this grift, and everyone who was vaccinated is their free test subjects.

Now Moderna wants to charge $130 per shot?

Well... At least I am not going to be paying for people to experiment off themselves anymore.


P.S. I'm glad you and your daughter didn't get those boosters.

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Monday, January 16, 2023 11:15 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Young Reporter Doesn't Want Questions After Stroking Out On Live TV



Fauci Says Vaxx Is Not Killing Athletes as 18 Year Old MMA Fighter Dies



American Idol Contestant Dies Suddenly at 31 After Suffering Heart Attack





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Tuesday, January 17, 2023 10:29 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Covid Vaccine Makers Pressured Twitter To Censor Activists

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1615008625575202818


Taibbi on Twitter Files: We've Discovered A Public-Private Censorship Bureaucracy

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/01/15/taibbi_on_twitter_f
iles_weve_discovered_a_public-private_censorship_bureaucracy.html


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Tuesday, January 17, 2023 10:36 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


School Closures Still Link to Learning Loss, Nearly 3 Years Into Pandemic
Reading and math scores declined between 2020 to 2022, reversing two decades of improvement.

https://reason.com/2023/01/16/school-closures-caused-learning-loss/


Public Schools Face Dramatic Rise in Student Misbehavior

https://www.realcleareducation.com/articles/2023/01/13/public_schools_
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