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So now I'm supposed to believe a senile, cantankerous old man who doesn't know where and when he is half the time?

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Him or this guy.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'd argue that China was always THE Bogey Man. I've always said that here, especially when all the Russia bullshit really ramped up.

It's a silent war, because the media rarely ever talks about it. Mostly because most of them are owned in part by China and they're not allowed to speak on the issue.

Right now, with TikTok alone they've got blackmail information on hundreds of thousands and perhaps even millions of US kids (and kids worldwide, for that matter).

Think I'm being hyperbolic here? Look at what has happened in the last decade to people (average people too, not just celebrities) for tweets that were buried up from the early days of Twitter. Step one inch out of line in real life, and the MOB will actively seek to destroy your real life.

SIGNY; Yes. On the other hand, all of the nobodies have no influence on our foreign, financial, trade, or economic policy. Hell, even the President can't turn it around if it runs counter to the permanent state. What could China force these millions of nobodies into doing that would make one bit of difference to the course set by our elites?

SIX: What do you think is going to happen to those kids today posting embarassing or inflammatory stuff when they become adults? It's not just 255 or less words they're putting up there, but actual video evidence of their wrongthink.

The kids today are going to grow up in an entire different world than the one that we did.

Our world Governments aren't REALLY going to try to force old dogs like us to assimilate into the new cashless world with a social credit score. But it will happen gradually and eventually we'll die off and they're all screwed unless they figure out how to live in the wild.

SIGNY; But this is OUR government, not China, that you're posting about.

SIX: Our government pretends to love Democracy and the Constitution, but let's be real here... If they were able to, and they will be, they'd much rather have total control over us in a digital surveillance state and emulate the CCP.

And we, as a group, will happily allow it to happen because of the convenience of the double-edged sword of technology. And most of the kids won't even know of a world where this wasn't the norm. Even if their parents are wise to it and try to shield them from it, once they get to about middle-school age they're going to cave to peer pressure and want to do and have whatever their friends do and have.

SIGNY: Your post is mostly about OUR globalist government. Maybe using China as an example, but China not instituting those policies here.

However, you do bring up a salient point. Russia is fiercely autarkic, and despite SECOND and THUGR portraying it as a ravening proto-empire seeking to devour the whole globe, in reality it's in defense mode and wants mainly to be left alone. And it has the resources and development to isolate itself almost completely..

China OTOH IS globalist. It lacks many critical resources and it has a billion people to keep occupied and prosperous, and so depends on massive foreign trade: Oil and gas and food and raw materials in, finished goods out. Like Japan, but way way bigger.

As long as China was making cheap good for us, that was OK. But 2008 taught them that we DIDN'T know what we were doing and we aren't a reliable market with a sound currency, so now they're turning their considerable energies towards other markets... the Belt and Road specifically... and all of that industry will be competing for raw resources and labor, and not to our benefit.

And in addition, China won't let our financialists play in their markets, so they can't even make money off that.e

So I would put China in the rival/competitor class.

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Brian Berletic (The New Atlas channel) - an American former Marine tech currently living in Thailand and working as an industrial engineer - often hosts a couple of people who live in China, and one thing they keep saying is that China doesn't want to take over the world, they just want to make money.

Colonel Douglas MacGreggor has said the Chinese aren't communists, they're money grubbers.

China's dealings with other nations, including Russia and the USA, are boiled down to 'whats in it for us?' (materially). They don't want to force other nations into any particular deal bc that risks blowback, hence their emphasis on 'win-win' arrangements. OTOH it doesn't bother them if they 'win' more than you do! At the risk of sounding anti-Semitic, a comment I've heard that sums up the Chinese (with their ethnocentrism and 'money-grubbing') - is that Chinese are 'the Jews of the east'.

They're risk averse, and focused both on raising the material standard of living AND finding jobs for young men (who become disruptive if not kept busy) as their surest way to STAY IN POWER. OTOH China isn't blessed with all of the resources it needs for a self-sufficient economy, so they decided to become an exporting nation as the quickest was to prosperity and jobs.

HOWEVER, that necessarily means that they will need some international muscle to enforce the deals they've made with other trading partners (what happens if Mexico reneges on a deal to sell China the total output of a copper mine?) or someone -like the USA- interdicts their trade routes?

Also, the USA sees China as a significant competitor for world resources. USA elite may dress it up as being about Taiwan and freedom, but that's just a rationalization for the gullible. The USA would like to destroy China to rid itself of a competitor.

IMHO China's greatest challenge is to transition from an export economy to a balanced economy, and they aren't handling that transition well, if at all. They tried, a couple of decades ago, to improve their internal market by pumping up the money supply, but all that did was create speculstion booms in everything from wheat to aluminum to real estate to iron to zinc to infrastructure.

Belt and Road is just an attempt to replace the USA and EU markets with other markets (Central Asia, Africa etc). For their own security and peace of mind, without all the drama and fuss that transnationalism brings, they need to find a way to whittle down their reliance on exports while still finding jobs for their young male population. China has a TON of environmental disasters- maybe they should set some of those workers to cleaning up the mess they made while industrializing. Just my $0.02.

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He's as big an idiot as Zeihan.

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He's as big an idiot as Zeihan.



THUGR: Hey dummy. You keep admitting you believe Zeihan is not only wrong, but an idiot.
I keep showing him explain why he says what he says. All of which makes sense. You disagree so we've come full circle. We are back to me pointing out you are clueless.

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Is there a timeline on Russia's demise THUGR??
Care to put a DATE on it?
In a year?
Two?

Or is this just another one of your endlessly ticking clocks??
'Cause, yanno, until you tell us WHEN, your bullshit goes on "ignore", along with Zeihan and the rest of your shabby sources.

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I have it on good authority that the sun will run out of hydrogen and go supernova.

Tick Tock

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I have it on good authority that the sun will run out of hydrogen and go supernova.

Tick Tock

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You better get a new source dummy. And not for just this. You need new sources for pretty much everything you believe.

The Sun isn’t anywhere near large enough to go supernova without another star. Instead, once the core of our Sun has burned all its hydrogen and helium to become a mixture of oxygen and carbon, it will likely become a red giant for a period before cooling down into a white dwarf.

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Brick-And-Mortar in China Dead! Shops Remain Unrented, Dream of “One Shop, Three Generations” Broken

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America’s original goal in Afghanistan was to hunt down al Qaeda. America’s original goal in Iraq was to terrify Iraq’s neighbors – Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia – into hunting down al Qaeda affiliates for us in order to deter an American invasion of Damascus, Tehran and Riyadh. Both missions were successful

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By the late-1990s the rest of the world was so out-of-mind that 60% of Americans couldn’t even locate the United States on a world map. American narcissism was again the norm…

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Is there a timeline on Russia's demise THUGR??
Care to put a DATE on it?
In a year?
Two?

Or is this just another one of your endlessly ticking clocks??
'Cause, yanno, until you tell us WHEN, your bullshit goes on "ignore", along with Zeihan and the rest of your shabby sources.

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SIGNY: Why did you even post nonsense to begin with?

THUGR: Comrade signym's first visit to the China thread.
Comrade signyms second post in the China thread. It clearly shows she didn't understand any of the consequences of China going under.

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All it shows is I think Zeihan's catastrophizing about China's population crash is ridiculous. China has a number of problems. An imminent population crash isn't one of them.



We better learn how to do without China if we're going to keep provoking them.

Oh, BTW, you asked me if I "understood" about chemicals.

Dood, I analyzed industrial chemicals for over 40 years!!!


I forgot more about refineries and coking plants, plating, cement-making, forging, plastics, industrial cleaning, etc etc then you will EVER learn!

And what I learned was that we in the LA area makes tons -literally- of petrochemicals, from propane to propylene to gasoline to diesel to coke. But if I needed to order SPECIALTY chemicals (calibration standards) like resin monomers or plating surfactants or pesticide precursors I wound up mostly ordering from China. And what I couldn't order from China I had to order from Germany. (Altho I hear the German chemical industry is going kaput.)

You have a habit of sticking your foot WAAAAY down your throat!

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Can't sell your cars unless the country lets you. Biden already talked about a 100% tariff on Chinese car imports as well as any other goods they try to dump here. My bet is Europe will consider doing the same.

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2500 dealers bankrupt in China as industry on the brink of collapse

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West Attacking China's Economy on Multiple Fronts?

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West Attacking China's Economy on Multiple Fronts?

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"Soon"?

Open to interpretation.

So, end of month?

If that's too "soon", give us a number.

If not, you stay on "ignore". Bc you and your endlessly ticking clocks are full of shit.

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"Soon"?

Open to interpretation.
So, end of month?
If that's too "soon", give us a number.
If not, you stay on "ignore". Bc you and your endlessly ticking clocks are full of shit.




THUGR: Hard to predict exactly but soon.

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Hey comrade can you explain, if Russia is doing so well what's with the run on the banks?

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Russian companies were practically cut off from easy access to euros and dollars.

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U.S.-Saudi Petrodollar Pact Ends after 50 Years

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THUGR: About my clocks. Let's see, they predicted Trumps impeachments, both of them. They predicted he would be arrested, tried and convicted. They predicted he would lose in 2020, and so on and so on. Get the point comrade?

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The only thing stupider than a stupid troll is watching a stupid troll's video.

He's still on "ignore".

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Russian spies are kaput.

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THG are you some kind of pervert, you keep swallowing and vomiting up nonsense from Zeihan

It could be worse you might be South Park's episode on fecafilia

Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo

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Brick-And-Mortar in China Dead! Shops Remain Unrented, Dream of “One Shop, Three Generations” Broken

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oh yeah China with its open border and so many illegals, Mexico trafficking gangs into China, gun running into Beijing and

What else can we compare it to, the street shitters of Commiefornia, the illegal criminals of NYC, the gangs of Shitcago, or the zombie drug addicts of kensington Philadelphia

but don't worry the pervert is selling another book...Zeihan says China will collapse, any day now, any second

Homosexual Zeihan on Asscrackistan

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homosexual Pedo Zeihan claims the electric car has failed and will mostly “disappear”

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2023/01/peter-zeihan-made-up-and-false-c
laims-about-evs-for-his-business.html

the pervert weirdo Pedo Zeihan claims Argentina will destroy British it be able to defeat the England types militarily and conquer the Falklands

https://zeihan.com/argentina-after-america/

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Why does Ted have his tongue so far up Peter Zeihan's asshole right now?

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Zeihan's got books to sell and talks to get fees for.

You can tell by his TED-talk style: chirpy quips and wry asides and gaspingly outrageous headliners. And his totally trashed facts.

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We do not always agree but I think I might agree here

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First of all, if he is gay who the fuck cares. If I were you, I'd be more concerned about how ignorant you are. Because you two sure are ignorant. As I've said, I deal in facts.

Quick, hurry out and get your Chinese EUV today.

too funny...

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