REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Sept. 11, 2001

POSTED BY: HERO
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Friday, September 21, 2007 3:02 AM

HERO


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Originally posted by Hero:
Come to think of it, name a single OTHER Islamic terrorist captured in ICC signatory countries (like Britain, Italy, Spain, Germany, Afhganistan, etc.) who have been turned over to the ICC for prosecution. I can't seem to find any.


I note for the record that the ICC is attempting to prosecute Islamic folks who are engaged in genocide in Africa. They are not getting much cooperation from anybody. At present they are more like a paper tiger. They generate warrants, subpoenas, and press releases, but don't have a single thing to show for it. Not unlike the Democratic Congress.

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Friday, September 21, 2007 3:54 AM

FLETCH2


Just to point out that if you're a politician saying things like "dead or alive" is a really great soundbite, especially for a Texan, older folks will imagine Bush, Steve McQueen and the Duke sadling up a possie to hunt down OBL. It's good political theatre.

Of course 6 months later when you not only haven't "thrown the varmint in the hoosgow" or "hung him high" and in fact have little or no idea where he is, repeating "dead or alive" just shows how impotent you are. At that time playing down his importance would be the only way out.


I have no idea what kind of work you do Rue, but in my corporate experience I've had managers that talk agressively about objectives at the start of a project and then down play it when their brainchild proves to be impossible. That doesn't mean that I believe that the manager wanted to fail all along, just that political and corporate survival mean downplaying your mistakes and missed targets not highlighting them.

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Friday, September 21, 2007 6:22 AM

RUE

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Fletch, I agree. The thing I'm trying to highlight to Rap is that he claims to abhor any use of 9/11 for political purposes - and it's pretty obvious to me Bush did just that - frequently and with mucho gusto.

And Rap even agrees ! he calls it playing to the audience - but then slides right over it as an issue.

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Friday, September 21, 2007 10:55 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Fletch, I agree. The thing I'm trying to highlight to Rap is that he claims to abhor any use of 9/11 for political purposes - and it's pretty obvious to me Bush did just that - frequently and with mucho gusto.

And Rap even agrees ! he calls it playing to the audience - but then slides right over it as an issue.




He is the President, after all, and it would be pretty damn strange had he said NOTHING. Different folks in Bush's position will say things differently, as it reflects their personality, etc.... What I don't see is how/ why you vilify Bush for simply doing his job. On that, I will slide over it as an issue, for I don't see it as one. I don't see Bush politicizing 9/11 anywhere near the extent you claim. It's a major event in this country's history, and to disregard that would be foolish.

What makes me wonder about YOUR motives are the things I heard Clinton supporters say, following the days after 9/11. 'Some' muttered that it was unfair he wasn't President at the time of the attack, for then folks would see how TRULY great a man he is. It's these folks who lament the attacks happened under Bush's watch, and not Clinton's. Talk about blind partisanship! Frankly, I find talk to either extreme to be fruitless and down right un-American. Hell, even inhuman.

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Friday, September 21, 2007 12:16 PM

RUE

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"I don't see Bush politicizing 9/11 anywhere near the extent you claim."

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!! You're kidding, right ?

Of COURSE he had something to say about it. But it was the ONLY thing he said whenever anyone questioned his agenda and still is to this day. Sneak and peak ? 9/11 ! Iraq War ? 9/11 ! Torture ? 9/11 ! Economy ? 9/11 ! and on and on ad nauseum. He used the tragedy to further his political goals. Worse, he took his eye completely off the goal of justice and security and now years later, bin Laden is still making videos and al Qaeda has rebuilt to pre-9/11 capability.

DEAD OR ALIVE ! was mere rhetoric designed to inflame Americans to stampede to his every whim.

"What makes me wonder about YOUR motives are the things I heard Clinton supporters say, following the days after 9/11. 'Some' muttered that it was unfair he wasn't President at the time of the attack, for then folks would see how TRULY great a man he is." What does that have to do with MY motives ?? Have I said it ? Have you seen it on this board ? Have you seen ANY evidence of Clinton-worship on the board ? Just 'cause people say Bush is a tool (and there's no getting around that he is) doesn't mean any here WORSHIP Clinton. My god, man, YOU are the one with the serious Clinton issue, reading things, seeing things that aren't even there.


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Saturday, May 13, 2023 12:40 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


a crazy claim but

'9/11 hijackers were CIA recruits'

https://www.newagebd.net/article/201110/911-hijackers-were-cia-recruit
s


Imran Khan recalls Bangladesh liberation, Osama's killing to slam army

https://www.wionews.com/south-asia/this-mafia-is-going-all-out-imran-k
han-recalls-bangladesh-liberation-osamas-killing-to-slam-army-592097


there will be years of crazy politics

lies, smoke screen and more deception

and remember how 'Right' Bush junior and 'Left' Tony Blair were on tv calling it a 'religion of peace' as wreck of the buildings still smoked, as the bodies still burned they went on television saying islam is peaceful


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