Japan wishes to send 50,000 troops to Iraq by GinoBiffaroni

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Japan wishes to send 50,000 troops to Iraq

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UPDATED: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:59
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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:47 PM

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E3888A70-F6F1-4190-968A-AD55E9F
5EADA.htm

The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:08 PM

FREDGIBLET

Took a minute for it to sink in, kind of clever.

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:20 PM

KIRKULES

It doesn't surprise me that Aljazeera would use the actions of one US soldier to smear the entire US military. It does surprise me that so many unwittingly distribute their propaganda.

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:51 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

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Originally posted by Kirkules:
It doesn't surprise me that Aljazeera would use the actions of one US soldier to smear the entire US military. It does surprise me that so many unwittingly distribute their propaganda.

Just to make Kirkules happy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7254105.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7242164.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7238386.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5028636.stm

Al Jazeera seems to be no more bias than BBC, but hey any not pro US position is propaganda.

And if there is a troop shortage, perhaps closing bases and redeploying troops from where they are not wanted should be a consideration.

The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:15 PM

GORAMMAN

As some one that has been to Okinawa dozens of times I can say there really is no compelling reason to venture out in town. The only people that will smile at you are the bar owners. Prices are pretty much the same as they are in Japan despite being pretty slummy or rural. It really is very different from Japan. I usually just chilled at Kaneda Air Base when I had to go there.

As a matter of fact I ventured out only once when I was there and it was a HUGE mistake. I will spare you the details but the story does have a name:
"The Night of the Bleeding Cock and Banana Show"

***stares into vacant distance and shutters

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:41 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

This is the same Japanese who procured up to a quarter million "comfort women" from China and Korea for their troops during WWII?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:50 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

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Originally posted by Geezer:
This is the same Japanese who procured up to a quarter million "comfort women" from China and Korea for their troops during WWII?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

So the 14 year old had it coming then ?

Mind you this is sadly the mindset the Iraq discussions have taken lately.

The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:58 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by Geezer:
This is the same Japanese who procured up to a quarter million "comfort women" from China and Korea for their troops during WWII?

And...the same Japanese that raped and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of men, women & children in Nanking & Shanghai & The Philippines? But for THEM..it was POLICY! This incident in Okinawa is the action of one sick individual...has nothing to do with US military or their policies.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:20 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
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Originally posted by Geezer:
This is the same Japanese who procured up to a quarter million "comfort women" from China and Korea for their troops during WWII?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

So the 14 year old had it coming then ?

Just noting the phenomenom of selective outrage as practiced by the Japanese. They're all so upset about the actions of one individual (for which the US has apologized even before guilt has been established), yet still refuse, 60 years later, to apologize for institutionalized rape on a massive scale. What you got here is politicians playing politics.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:39 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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What you got here is politicians playing politics.

Yup. You have ONE person, who HAPPENS to be an American, and HAPPENS to be in the military, who is also, allegedly, a rapist. It's not an American policy, or a military policy; it's one fucked-up dude, who - if guilty - really does desperately need to be shot in the head.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:06 AM

GINOBIFFARONI

Actually the point I was trying to make

The locals do not want the American military presence, for many reason ( this wasn't the only rape, other crimes, pollution, ecological disruption, etc )

and the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are meanwhile suffering manpower shortages so acute that you have been force to strip your national guard away from its primary mission, as well as compel people who have fulfilled their contracts and were leaving the military to stay in...

Downsize or close bases in Japan, Korea, and other places which do not want these troops there and you solve both problems...

As for the one fucked up dude... it was clear to me serving in my country's military that any interaction was a reflection on both my service and my country. Now, it is up to politics to decide how this reflection continues. I hope as before this guy is handed over to Japan for trial.

In addition the behavior ( trend ) of troops in this region needs to be examined, and steps taken to prevent further reoccurance.

The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:05 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Actually the point I was trying to make

The locals do not want the American military presence, for many reason ( this wasn't the only rape, other crimes, pollution, ecological disruption, etc

I agree with that.......why are we still in Okinawa anyhow? It's been 63 years since we occupied that island and Japan. Last I saw of it, Marlon Brando was acting a great part as Sakini, always outsmarting the bumbling US military in Teahouse of the August Moon. There was the Karate Kid 2 adventure there also, but no need to harp on that.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:07 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by Geezer:
This is the same Japanese who procured up to a quarter million "comfort women" from China and Korea for their troops during WWII?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

Sure. If they're Immortal.

Are these the same US troops that rounded up Japanese Americans into interment camps?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:08 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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What you got here is politicians playing politics.

Yup. You have ONE person, who HAPPENS to be an American, and HAPPENS to be in the military, who is also, allegedly, a rapist. It's not an American policy, or a military policy; it's one fucked-up dude, who - if guilty - really does desperately need to be shot in the head.

Did the Al Jazeera article say that is was policy? I didn't see that in there.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:38 AM

GINOBIFFARONI

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Originally posted by Geezer:
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
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Originally posted by Geezer:
This is the same Japanese who procured up to a quarter million "comfort women" from China and Korea for their troops during WWII?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

So the 14 year old had it coming then ?

Just noting the phenomenom of selective outrage as practiced by the Japanese. They're all so upset about the actions of one individual (for which the US has apologized even before guilt has been established), yet still refuse, 60 years later, to apologize for institutionalized rape on a massive scale. What you got here is politicians playing politics.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

Of course Japan is not alone in their denial...

http://www.iearn.org/hgp/aeti/aeti-1997/native-americans.html

The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:53 AM

GINOBIFFARONI

Update : More US troops face charges in Japan

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/266F4211-27F7-4E1E-A3D7-DECADB4
B5EAB.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7256056.stm

The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:26 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Of course Japan is not alone in their denial...

http://www.iearn.org/hgp/aeti/aeti-1997/native-americans.html

And how clean is your spacious yet somewhat cooler closet to the north?

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:11 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

Cluttered as anyone else's

But that is the point isn't it. Geezer was posing the point where do they get off with the wrongs they committed in their history being self righteous in protesting the problems of today.

If the world was to paint every country by the actions of its past.... nobody comes out looking squeaky clean. Some come out looking worse than others, and some equally bad.

The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 4:23 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Ya gotta ask...what is it about those 14 yr old Japanese girls that makes them so irresistible ?

I'm just say'n.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, February 22, 2008 11:50 AM

GINOBIFFARONI

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Ya gotta ask...what is it about those 14 yr old Japanese girls that makes them so irresistible ?

I'm just say'n.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

Of course if your a civilian contractor you can rape all the 20 something white girls you like

The Alliance said they were gonna waltz through Serenity Valley. And we choked 'em with those words. We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 12:59 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

KBR - With membership, comes privleges.

*privleges not included if you're a female, non-white male or any combination of non-white and female. All privleges void in Fallujah, Indiana and Connecticut

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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