A Better Question About Torture by AnthonyT

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A Better Question About Torture

POSTED BY: ANTHONYT
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 08:01
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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
An answer to any question about torture, a better question or a worse question or any other question:

"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."

I forget exactly where I learned that one.

I don’t know where you heard it either, because the ethic of reciprocity is so widely stated it could have been anywhere. It’s certainly one worth pointing to thought. And if I ever found my self in a position in which I could save the lives of thousands of innocent people targeted by terrorists, but refused to provide that information, then hopefully someone would be decent enough to persuade me.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:02 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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I think some family members of those who died in the Oklahoma City Bombing wished to pursue forgiveness of Ted K. (I don't have time to look up his name's spelling).

I think you're thinking of Timothy McVeigh. Teddy the K was the Unibomber. Allegedly. :)

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:04 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Teddy K clearly is Ted Kennedy, yes?

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Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:06 AM

MALACHITE

Oops! Timothy McVeigh. I don't know where "Ted" came from...

Edit to add: I was thinking of the unabomber -- that's where "Ted" came from...

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Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:51 AM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Malachite:
Oops! Timothy McVeigh. I don't know where "Ted" came from...

Edit to add: I was thinking of the unabomber -- that's where "Ted" came from...

But definitely NOT Ted Kennedy, right?

I think you confused AuRaptor with that. It's not hard to do. Any bright shiny thing will usually do the trick...

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:00 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
No.

The ends never justify the means, cause eventually the means BECOME the end itself.

Never? Never ever? What if by torturing someone you prevent the torture of everyone else? You'd condemn all but the torturer to torture by your failure to act. Thats seems unreasonable.

The ends can justify the means. It depends entirely on what ends and what means.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:01 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Teddy K clearly is Ted Kennedy, yes?

Probably not talking about Theadore Kurita.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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