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Mayor: 'Your Constitutional rights are suspended during traffic stops'

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Monday, October 26, 2009 11:43 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Video: www.conservativedrink.com/media/GloverInterview-060809-Video.asp

Just say NOthing. No cop has any more authority than any other citizen to make a citizen's arrest or carry a weapon.

Why you must ALWAYS record every conversation with gubmit employees, but be wary of unconstitutional state law that in some states allegedly makes recording cops and politicians a crime (Illinois). This is violation of Equal Protection doctrine under the 14th Amendment, which requires if gubmit employees can record you with immunity, then you can record them.

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http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/?p=95
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2009/06/totalitarianism-in-one-ci
ty-shreveports.html


According to Cedric Glover, mayor of Shreveport, Louisiana, his cops "have a power that the President of these Unites States does not have": His cops can take away your rights.

And would you like to guess which rights he has in mind?

Just ask Shreveport resident Robert Baillio, who got pulled over for having two pro-gun bumper stickers on the back of his truck -- and had his gun confiscated.

While the officer who pulled him over says Baillio failed to use his turn signal, the only questions he had for Baillio concerned guns: Whether he had a gun, where the gun was, and if he was a member of a pro-gun organization. No requests for a driver's licence, proof of insurance, or vehicle registration -- and no discussion of a turn signal.

Accordingly, Baillio told the officer the truth, which led the police officer to search his car without permission and confiscate his gun.

However, not only does Louisiana law allow resident to drive with loaded weapons in their vehicles, but Mr. Baillio possessed a concealed carry license!

What does such behavior demonstrate, other than transparent political profiling -- going so far as to use the infamous Department of Homeland Security report on "Americans of a rightwing persuasion" as a how-to guidebook, no less?

Mr. Baillio made no secret of his political affiliations: An American flag centers a wide flourish of pro-freedom stickers and decals on his back windshield.

In fact, when Baillio asked the officer if everyone he pulls over gets the same treatment, the officer said no and pointed to the back of his truck.

Baillio phoned Mayor Glover to complain about this "suspension of rights" only to find that his city's morbidly obese "commander in chief" was elated at the story: According to Glover, Baillio got "served well, protected well, and even got a consideration that maybe [he] should not have gotten."

Thankfully, Mr. Baillio recorded a good bit of that phone call. You can watch a video with the transcriptions here. I've reproduced a chunk of the call below:

Quote:

Baillio: (in the context of being asked about the presence of a gun) Well, I answered that question honestly, and he disarmed me.

Glover: Which would be an appropriate and proper action, sir. The fact that you gave the correct answer -- it simply means that you did what it is you were supposed to have done, and that is to give that weapon to the police officer so he could appropriately place it in a place where it would not be a threat to you, to him, or to anyone in the general public.

[. . .]

Glover: My direction to you is that, had you chosen not to properly identify the fact that you had a weapon and directed that officer to where that weapon was located; had you been taken from the vehicle, and the officer, in the interest of his safety, chose to secure you in a safe position, and then looked, found, and determined that you did, in fact, have a weapon...then, sir, you would have faced additional, [inaudible], and more severe criminal sanctions.

Baillio: So what you're saying is: I give up all my rights to keep and bear arms if I'm stopped by the police: Is that correct?

Glover: Sir, you have no right, when you have been pulled over by a police officer for a potential criminal offense [which would be what?! - DB] to stand there with your weapon at your side in your hand [Baillio's weapon was nowhere near his side or his hand, and Glover knew that. -- DB] because of your second amendment rights, sir. That does not mean at that point your second amendment right has been taken away; it means at that particular point in time, it has been suspended.



Will Grigg from ProLibertate, an excellent freedom blog, has this to say:

According to Glover, a police officer may properly disarm any civilian at any time, and the civilian's duty is to surrender his gun -- willingly, readily, cheerfully, without cavil or question.

From Glover's perspective, it is only when firearms are in the hands of people other than the state's uniformed enforcers/oppressors that they constitute a threat, not only to the public and those in charge of exercising official violence but also to the private gun owner himself.

NAGR spoke with Mr. Baillio, and he told us that he's in the process of securing the official procedures and codes for firearm handling and private property confiscation for the Shreveport police department.

So far, the city has been half-heartedly cooperating with him.

"I felt sick," Baillio told NAGR. "My uncles didn't die for this country so I could surrender my rights like a wimp. I felt terrible. I was just thinking of all that my family has done for freedom in this nation -- including dying -- and here they are disarming me at a traffic stop."

What to do?

Send this around. This kind of behavior cannot go unchecked.

Call Mayor Glover's office to complain: (318) 673-5050.

I'll leave you with one last consideration. As a licensed firearms instructor in charge of a hundred different students every month, I'm often asked if citizens should voluntarily inform police officers of the presence of a firearm during a routine traffic stop.

While different states have different laws, my answer for Colorado citizens is an emphatic "No": Colorado law doesn't require you to volunteer that kind of information, and this case in Louisiana proves why, if at all possible, you should never invite trouble by doing so.

For Liberty,

Dudley Brown
Executive Director
http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/



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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:40 AM

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Satanic Nazi gay porn aside...that fella who claims his rights were violated needs to go to court.

I note for the record that there are two sides to every story.

I recently convicted a guy for illegally having a loaded gun in his car, smoking some pot, and a pipe.

He claimed the police molested him during the search, then took his gun illegally. Police claim they came upon him smoking pot in his car in a City park. While speaking to him he reached into his center console to get ID. Later when they searched the car they found a loaded handgun in the center console. This upset them (scared the hell out of them). He was arrested, gun, drugs, and pipe confiscated. We had a trial, police told their side, showed the evidence, he told his side and did not deny the drug use or the gun possession, he was mad they patted him down like a criminal (ie molested him)and thus, even though he was lawfully arrested for a crime he admits, he should not be guilty cause he's not a real criminal. He was convicted, appealed, screwed up the paperwork and lost. One story, two sides.

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"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:04 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Sounds like no charges were filed against this guy, or the charges were voluntarily dismissed by the prosecution, for fear of being sued for malicious prosecution. So there's no criminal trial in progress, and no cause of action for civil rights violation. Just a guy trying to file a complaint against police, while lost in the bureaucracy. Extra points for recording the mayor.

I never tell cops I'm carrying a gun. Their dispatch tells them when a driver has a carry permit every time they do a driver license check in TN. All I'm required to do by the US Supreme Court is tell my name and address. I refuse to answer all other questions, and I refuse to ask any questions, except the cop's full name (save it for court).

Sounds like your slam dunk couldn't afford a lawyer, or a real lawyer (PDs don't count since they're paid to lose), and wasn't literate enough to win pro se.

Did he have a handgun permit, or is that not required in your state, like Vermont? (Never mind that pesky 2nd Amendment.) Was he a convicted felon banned from self defense by gun ownership, or can felons own guns or handguns in your state?

Did he "consent" to a search, or was there duress by a death squad openly carrying a gun? Or did the cop make an illegal search? What did the cop video show, or did cops destroy that evidence, as they routinely do to keep from being jailed for perjury? SCOTUS in AZ v Gant 2009 now requires a search warrant to search cars. Did cops gets a signed "voluntary" contract to search his car, or did they get the mandatory search warrant?
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/08pdf/07-542.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_v._Gant

Did he make any constitutional defenses? Did he know what "Law of the Case" is, that allows all courts to ignore all laws and constitutions that a defendant fails to include in his defense brief or oral argument?

What does "screwed up the appeal" mean? Did he know how to appeal properly, as required to win, or did the appellate court ignore all the evidence and law, because it wasn't entered into evidence properly? Did he know the appellate court will ignore all testimony and evidence if no transcript is entered as an exhibit? Did he know a court clerk NEVER sends ANY evidence to the appellate court unless a defendant tells the clerk in writing to do so, in a separate letter to the clerk in addition to filing Notice of Appeal? Or did he just bust a time limit?

All drug possession is legal under Equal Protection doctrine of the 14th Amendment, since the US Dept of Homeland Security just lost 2 jets in Mexico while importing 10 tons of coke to USA, and world heroin production is up 1,400% thanks to Bushobama's invasion of Afghanistan. How many drug charges were dropped in your county at the feds' request for "national security"?

Might have a legit case for DUI (while parked), except there's no accurate test for pot intoxication. (Never mind that pesky constitutional right to travel without a driver license internal passport extorted at gunpoint per the 6th Plank of the Commie Manifesto, which denies all courts jurisdiction for victimless traffic "crimes".)

So it sounds like you rolled a stoned stoner with an IQ of 50. Like any mugger rolling drunks in a dark alley.

How much did the taxslaves pay for this travesty of "justice", and how much did you steal from the guy?

Example of illegal police search of parked car in a park parking lot, while breathing deadly air pollution by Govt:



Example of an innocent person framed durign a traffic stop, who used a gun to defend himself against retaliatory home invasion by unidentified undercover cops in Metallica t-shirts, and won after paying $50,000 to his lawyer (an ex-prosecutor) to prove cops destroyed all evidence, perjured themselves, stole personal property from a locked safe, and prosecutors are guilty of malicious prosecution, before having a stroke and lobotomy after being severely beaten in the head by suspected undercover cops or police informants who cops refuse to arrest and prosecutors refuse to prosecute:
piratenews.org/cliff-stroke-continuance-trial-date150a.jpg
www.archive.org/details/PirateNewsRadioShow9-11-09





Quote:

"If I’m found floating face down in the river or murdered ('apparent suicide') in a jail cell on some bogus charge, you’ll know it was the sheriff’s department working in concert with the University of Tennessee."
-Clifford Clark
http://www.cliffspeaks.com/index_files/attacked.htm



Such is the fate of anyone who dares defend themselves from Police State death squads and their foreign military contractors, and dares enforce the US Constitution and require cops, prosecutors and judges to obey orders by the US Supreme Court.

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