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Wednesday, November 4, 2009 6:18 PM

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Then there is a split between the 'globalists' and the capitalists. The capitalists like nothing better than a large impoverished population.

Close.

The only snag is that capitalism is a system based on "capital" which makes the banks the center, and banks are globalists. They, and certain corporations who do more govt. contract work than private work tend to favor the globalist image.

Industry, independent free market capitalists, yes, prefer a large labor pool, and customer base. You are correct that there is a split here.

I don't know if you noticed, but the typical alliance between corporate america's interests and those of the republican party really fell apart during the Bush years. "What's good for general motors is good for america" well, not under Bush, Not GE or 3M or anyone, except for a few hardcore contractors, like big Pharm, and people who have some sweetheart deal like Walmart.

Part of the ZPG globalism is based on a desire for power. They keep trying to take over institutions like GM, but then there's Ford and Toyota, and now there's Tata. It's hopeless.

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"I think crisis could be forestalled indefinitely."

How ?

Easy. GMO foods, irradiation, maglev, wind, solar, self powered freight, revitalization of land. We're currently operating at < 0.1% efficiency right now. We have the technology to run up to around 50%. My 1 trillion humans was a conservative estimate of what our farmland could support. But long before the population reaches that level it will have far more serious issues. The eco balance is already shifting to make humans a primary food source for smaller organism. At one trillion humans, we'd be the dominant land-based animal food source, and the disease contact rate for humans would be minutes. Every few minutes, you'd contract a new virus. If science can solve that problem, it can probably colonize outer space. Actually, the latter is probably easier. But I suspect the cycle will be "grow, collapse, repeat" for a long time before we hit that level. Meanwhile, we should just work on feeding the people maximizing their collective contribution, and minimizing our impact on the environment.

Whoever commented on China's one child policy, as a lot of my family is chinese and I talk to them all the time, I can say offhandedly: No, it's not working, it's a total disaster. It's within ten years of all out civil war. People in China support their govt. because if they don't, they get killed. They're terrified to oppose it. Sometimes they convinced even themselves, but I've met few of these. Most are just afraid to say, except if they are here. The opinions I hear range from "this is insane" to "this is genocide"

Sorry, I'm not going to scroll back and see who said that, because in the spirit of responding to the post, not the poster, that one was way off the mark.

> Byte: China has more people than India.

Not so much, no. Still, I think India is in better shape, except environmentally. China is much larger than India.

Overall, I have to agree with Byte. I will say this though: Kathy, the thing is that globalism is not a grand conspiracy, it's a movement. Yes, there are chinese globalists and japanese globalists and british globalists, and just like our globalists, they all see themselves as coming out on top.

As for one world govt, it already exists. What do you call the G20 or the WTO? They govern.

John,

Your translation is very on target. I think that the only caveat is that there are a lot of Globalist "true believers" who actually believe all of the points on that list can come true together. These are people who never read Nietzsche.

If you create this situation, and absolutely extreme form of corruption that makes Nazi Germany look like a petting zoo is going to come to town. What the world looks like the day after that, I don't even want to think about.

Kathy

>one-urban-child policy

Two things:

1) Almost everywhere in China is within an urban prefecture of some sort, it's not like the US.

2) But tell that rule to the rural chinese, upon whom the govt. is currently trying to enforce the one child policy

3) Chinese families who live in cities cannot simply move to the country and have more children.

In order to extract yourself from the policy, you need to forgo all govt. services. However, it's a communist country, and this means you can't have residency permits, etc., and so you can't live in an urban prefecture. So, sure, you could live in the country and have more than one child if you were independently wealthy, and willing to travel a few thousand miles without a car or rail service, but that's a loophole they are currently trying to close. My guess is that the attempt to crack down on the rural population will start the revolution. I am always amazed by what urban populations put up with. If you took even the rules of NYC and brought them up here, there would be a revolution.

In China, it's *so* much worse than that. All my chinese friends say 2017, so I assume that's some sort of chinese astrology thing like 2012, signaling some change of the guard, so I expect that people will probably all rally, and it might be a mess. One thing a lot of people are waiting for is for the last of Mao's original posse to die off. They figure that will be a moment of weakness, and detachment from the old ways.

Kathy

cfr.org is one of the many globalist sites, they've taken down the stuff about population control, it was up there for years. Remember, like any political ideology, then may hold views which are unpopular with the populace at large, and so they tend to shut up about them when confronted with opposition which doesn't mean they don't still hold those positions. I know that Nick Rockafeller and John Holden when personally confronted, tried to defend the position. But yeah, it's political suicide.

It's just like when PNAC had their plan for economic imperialism in the mideast on their website. The *day* after 9.11.01, they replaced the main documents with information about the need to go to war in the mideast to make the world safe for terrorism. Eventually, they replaced everything. But this is pretty typical behavior, but as someone who visited these sites before they got so much attention, I can say, yeah, sure, it used to say this sort of stuff, because these are think tanks, brain trusts, they only talk to each other, people who agree. When they started talking to people who disagreed, they shut up. But I believe they still believe.

Mike,

John's read on the obelisks is sadly a lot closer than yours. Politicians make things sound good. Sheep believe, and follow. Then they get slaughtered and turned into mutton. I'm sensing a muttony future here.

Cheney is the sockpuppet of someone very clever.

Pizmo

Yoko is annoying. She's a neighbor of mine, and very piggy at booksales. I don't see what John saw in her, except that she was a hot asian chick. But now she's just an annoying neighbor.

Kathy

I really can't emphasize enough the feeling I get from China that the major of people live on around $400/year, have no access to education, and live in constant fear that their govt. will exterminate them and might have a revolution at the first sign of weakness. The one child policy has driven the population to the brink of insanity or over it, and the stress level is psychotic. Additionally, prostitution is getting very expensive, due to female infanticide that results from the one child policy.

The middle class is closer to 1/4 of the population, but the chinese economy is in rapid decline, as is that of india. It's hard to just make sweeping utopian statements about very complex situations. $10/day i considered good work for the working class that you speak of, the ones who are "doing well," they send money back to their families. their working conditions are 12hrs/day, no days off, and they live in flophouses with 700 beds to a room. The difference between this and standard sweatshops is that they are there by choice, and free to leave. Yes, there's a wealthy population in shanghai that is doing very well, as well as any western nation, and when the peasants revolt, it's the upper class in Shanghai, HK and Taiwan who will end up running the country. The best thing the wester peasants can do at that juncture is to secede.

My guess as to the mechanism that the radical population control crowd will resort to: Biowarfare.

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And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.

And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.

Everyone should read the revelation of st. john the divine. If it doesn't make sense to you, keep reading until it does. I posted online the whole story of the Iraq war, from the invasion, tactics used, the length of occupation, the exact date of the handover of power to the new iraqi govt. I predicted on this forum, virtually every detail, and I took it all straight out of revelations, down to the ruler who overcomes, and takes power, and 4 beasts set behind his throne, and he sends out 144,000 men to take the valley of tigres and euphrates, and occupy it for 1260 days... This isn't a prophecy, it's a playbook.

I read a lot of panic about vaccines here, and some of it is well placed. Seven golden vials filled with the wrath of God. That's something to be afraid of. And the lunatics who believe in it, which is everyone in the western religion, since the text is taken from a hebrew text not included in the old testament, so christian, jewish or muslim, anyone who is genocidally insane and believes that depopulation of the globe is a good idea might enact this above plan, and their god told them to do it.

Oh, and to people who say "The bible is a great book for rules to run a society by" I have only this to say:

Read it. And then start over and reread it. The above is from the King James, I've read it twice, it's 800,000 words, and makes Pirate News' posts look like the beacon of sanity.

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Wednesday, November 4, 2009 6:32 PM

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Byte, you make China sound an awful lot like vast portions of the United States. Only with healthcare for everyone.

And jobs

oh, and if you post on this forum, they show up at your house and drag you out in to the street and blow your brains out. No explanation will be forthcoming. If someone pursues the matter, they kill them too. Or just torture them for 20 years. This still happens. To people I know.

Here's a story. Two men were college friends. One called the other and asked for a place to stay for the night. So he stayed, they chatted about old times. That morning, the friend left. He made it a few hours, and was killed. He was a democrat, and that was not the ruling party, which would be communist. The sentence for that was death.

The friend meanwhile knew nothing of this, not even that his not dead friend had become a democrat. He was in his house sipping his tea when police came in the front door. They have no need of process, they're not like vampires, they don't need an invite. They hauled him out onto the street and told him that his friend was a democrat, and therefore an enemy of the state. Then they blew his head off without further warning or ensuing conflict.

His daughter saw this, and so she went later down to city hall to protest. She said her father knew nothing of any democratic activity and was simply giving a college friend a place to stay for the night. They told her that she was questioning the authority of the state, and then took her without trial and placed her in a jail cell for 20 years. During that time her teeth rotted, and it spread to her jaw, but no healthcare, no legal appeal...

These are the people who are still in power, and this is how they still act. Yes, China, its a vast an amazing country. Don't ever think that their govt. and ours are on any kind of a level. Thinking like that... can get you killed.

Recently, a chinese blogger friend of mine was covering the political situation in China. The govt, as it does from time to time, decided to make an example. It does this before it makes the laws, or on the same day. They rounded up a bunch of bloggers and executed them. He still blogs, but he doesn't talk about politics now.

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Thursday, November 5, 2009 5:54 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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"For whatever else he's worth , at least he's an advocate of Free Speech , unlike you and your little neo-Commie gang..."

Are you trying to claim yet again that Kwicko tried to have you banned from the site ?

Prove it.

Just so we all know that you're not lying, again.

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Thanks, Rue - I'm still waiting for that "proof" Out2Lunch says he has. Can't find it here:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=40039

or here:

http://www.fireflyfan.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=34664

or even here:

http://168.215.229.9/mthread.asp?b=18&t=35632

My bet is Out2Lunch will run away again and resurface in a couple weeks, making the same lame claims. One thing he WON'T do is produce any kind of evidence that I ever tried to have him banned, because nothing of the kind ever happened.

Post your evidence and your "proof", Out. Or just man up and admit that you made it up, that you really are the coward and liar we all already know you to be.

Bumping this because apparently Out2Lunch missed it. Or he ran away again.

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

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Thursday, November 5, 2009 1:10 PM

PERFESSERGEE

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So, does anyone have anything RATIONAL to say that's on-topic ?

Not that anyone's likely to pay much attention, as I've posted this sort of thing before and been blown off, but: I would really like to point out, again, that Planned Parenthood does far more than abortions, and if more women took more advantage of their myriad other services, they probably wouldn't need that one. I have been going to Planned Parenthood for years. Yes, years. And not ever to have an abortion. I went to educate myself, to have a basic exam, and to be provided with birth control pills. They have offered all the information and advice I could want. They have given me fair prices on the visits and the pills. Since I don't have anything close to decent health care coverage, I wouldn't have been able to get those exams or that birth control without them. Since I could, thanks to them, I have remained healthy and baby-free until such time as I'm actually ready for one. I couldn't express how grateful I am to them for allowing me to live my life. Painting them as a strictly 'abortion clinic' is ludicrous and in all ways false. Painting them as actual advocates of abortion is some ways beyond that. They advocate choice and they offer it, but if you've ever actually talked to a nurse there, abortion is the last choice they want to offer you. It's not only the most trying, it's the most expensive. They would always, always advise actual birth control before abortion, and to deny that is simple lunacy.

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Well said PR, but it's too bad so many people either can't read or can't think their way out of a wet paper bag (or actually, won't take off their blinders) so that your message goes over many a head. They just don't seem capable of understanding that nobody is advocating abortion as a matter of policy, just as the least bad of some unpleasant options. And those who conflate ZPG and Planned Parenthood just don't know what they are talking about.

Oh, (and in reply to the message above) Ted Turner may think 250 million is good, but he's about the only one - no credible ecologist would argue for that figure. However, it's abundantly clear that 6.5 - 7 Billion is not sustainable. As a species, we already use about 40% of the biologically available energy produced on land (net primary productivity - the only way energy gets into living systems). One species taking nearly half the pie! Does that seem right to you? Sure doesn't to me. As I posted on another thread, the most credible estimate of the long-term sustainable carrying capacity of the earth for humans, assuming a European standard of living, is about 2B.............

perfessergee

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Thursday, November 5, 2009 2:22 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"The workers in China, who can get work, they have shelter... That they share with thirty other people and which tends not to get electricity. They get enough food, though from what I hear some of them are still going pretty hungry, so the food might not be survival rations. And they also have showers, which is a luxury, but they're again shared."

China has a minimum standard of living which provides food and shelter for those who don't have enough money.

Many of the people I work with are from mainland China and visit regularly. One anglo is x-tian who visits China frequently (as often as the authorities allow) going to (covertly) spread the word in the countryside. (not being religious myself -

) Even the worst parts of the countryside have government-provided housing, one (small) family per unit. Pictures I have seen that are NOT propaganda look like it's superior to low-cost US housing. Pictures I have seen that are NOT propaganda indicate that indeed, it is one small family to a unit. Pictures I have seen that are NOT propaganda indicate the situation is NOT as you describe it.

The very large proportion of both urban and rural Chinese people have decent housing.

SOME Chinese construction workers who have left the coutryside live as you describe. But they are no different from the many non-union general-labor construction workers in the US. I have known some who slept in unfinished houses, for lack of a home.

Other than that, the Chinese unemployment rate is pretty low - considering that they count ALL who are unemployed, unlike the US. I think I recently read and article that it 'surged' to 4.2 %. The US should be so lucky - eh ?

Overall, the standard of living in China, which used to be comparable to that of India, is now far higher. Again, I'd like to say that if the one-urban-child policy of China is hurting the people, it doesn't seem to be reflected in the standard of living or the economy.

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Thursday, November 5, 2009 2:37 PM

BYTEMITE

Perhaps not. Perhaps it's just hurting the gender balance.

Which is also a concern.

My sources for my information on China were probably very biased, the message was something like "Americans, feel sorry for the Chinese."

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Thursday, November 5, 2009 3:09 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

China is certainly no paradise.

I mentioned 'the authorities' who limit travel to China and 'mind' the visitors. The politcal system that runs the economy also suppresses the internet (with google's agreement). Any religious or political deviations are swiftly punished. In the countryside 33% of women report overt domestic violence. AIDS is rampant, in part due to government cheapness and corruption. The prisons are used as brutal cheap labor, and if reports are to be believed, parts on the hoof. The coal fired power plants will destroy the Chinese environment, then the world's.

The improved standard of living comes as a package deal with the bad stuff.

As for sex-selection, it happens in India too. But there abortion is the preferred mode - oddly enough, as I understand it, for religious reasons. As was explained to me, if you use birth control you are interfering with the cycle of life. But if you are conceived and then aborted - man, you musta' earned some bad karma ! Better luck next time !

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Thursday, November 5, 2009 3:40 PM

PERFESSERGEE

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Perhaps not. Perhaps it's just hurting the gender balance.

Which is also a concern.

My sources for my information on China were probably very biased, the message was something like "Americans, feel sorry for the Chinese."

It is indeed hurting the gender balance - in urban China the sex ratio among young people is about 120 males per 100 females, which is very, very far from the norm. Since males die at higher rates than females from conception on, it should be slightly female biased. Gender selective abortion is widely believed to be practiced and even female infanticide is rumored. The same is actually true in India, though not so extreme. The implications are quite profound. Think about a generation of young men, one sixth of whom aren't going to have a mate. In all societies that I know of, young unmarried men are the least stable social element. Makes you wonder why parents are dooming their sons to such a life, or at least why they aren't thinking about it. The cultural bias for sons is pretty strong.

perfessergee

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Thursday, November 5, 2009 3:52 PM

RUE

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WIKI ANSWERS

Asian History question: What is the male and female ratio in India? Answer 1000 males : 880 females.

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Thursday, November 5, 2009 3:57 PM

RUE

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OTOH
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_09/b3922034_mz007.htm

In Western countries, such as the U.S., the ratio of male to female births is around 1.05. ... In contrast, since at least 1980, male-female ratios are around 1.08 in China, India, and Pakistan. This demographic phenomenon is limited to Asia and does not relate to economic development. The male-female ratios are not high in sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America.

There is much evidence that parents infected by HBV (hepatitis B virus) are more likely to have male children. Places with substantial HBV -- Asia, Alaska, and parts of the the former Soviet Union -- tend to have high male-female birth ratios. Studies in Greece and France show that HBV-positive parents had male-female ratios for offsprings of 1.7 to 1.8, vs. 1.1 to 1.2 for those who are HBV-negative. This pattern also shows up among immigrants, with those from high HBV areas, such as China, having high male-female offspring ratios in the U.S.

The biological explanation for the HBV effect is unclear, though it may involve more frequent spontaneous abortion of female fetuses. But the effect is large, concentrated in certain regions, and susceptible to elimination via the HBV vaccine. In Alaska, the use of the HBV vaccine in 1982 led to a sharp decline in high male-female birth ratios.

Among Asian countries, the HBV influence is greatest in China, explaining 75% of Coale's missing women. In India, the adjustment is less important, explaining only 17%. For Asian countries in general, Oster locates 46% of the absent women, ending up with 33 million missing, rather than Coale's 60 million or Sen's 107 million.

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Thursday, November 5, 2009 3:59 PM

PERFESSERGEE

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WIKI ANSWERS

Asian History question: What is the male and female ratio in India? Answer 1000 males : 880 females.

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Wow, that's more biased than I had thought, only 1% better than China. But then, India has practiced female infanticide for millenia. Thanks for looking that up.

perfessergee

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Thursday, November 5, 2009 4:06 PM

RUE

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"Thanks for looking that up."

You have to remember, it came from WIKIANSWERS. So, uhm ... FWIW.

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