It Has All Happened Before by AnthonyT

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It Has All Happened Before

POSTED BY: ANTHONYT
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Monday, August 23, 2010 7:52 AM

Freedom is Important because People are Important

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Hello,

I wonder if, 10,000 years from now, Archaeologists will be commenting on the shape of these ancient constructs and wondering what spiritual significance the shape had to the inhabitants of the city.

--Anthony

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Monday, August 23, 2010 8:14 AM

HERO

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I wonder if, 10,000 years from now, Archaeologists will be commenting on the shape of these ancient constructs and wondering what spiritual significance the shape had to the inhabitants of the city.

No. 10,000 years from now they'll be waiting for the next black President (cause Obama is so bad even all the black folks will spend the next 10,000 years saying...'maybe we ought to pick the white guy').

Besides, the true wonder of our age came in 1991 when Hershey invented the chocolate bar that did not melt in the desert (thus ushering in an age of desert warfare for the United States).

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Monday, August 23, 2010 8:22 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

"No. 10,000 years from now they'll be waiting for the next black President (cause Obama is so bad even all the black folks will spend the next 10,000 years saying...'maybe we ought to pick the white guy')."

Hello Hero,

What a bizzarely uncharacteristic statement- with overtones I do not typically expect from you.

--Anthony

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Monday, August 23, 2010 8:27 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I just hope there still ARE archaeologists 10,000 yrs in the future.

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Monday, August 23, 2010 9:47 AM

HERO

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Hero,

What a bizzarely uncharacteristic statement- with overtones I do not typically expect from you.

I have long been of the opinion that had Obama been a white guy named Fred, he'd never have been elected. Even John Edwards had more going for him (before the affair came out). Obama was black, and could talk good...that's pretty much all the Democrats were looking for in a candidate, next time they may want to consider the best person for the job and ignore skin color. It was never about his politics, Obama was not even the best liberal for the job...Hillary had him beat hands down on experiance and management skills.

Experiance aside, I think his biggest failing is lack of management skills. He's like Reagan without the good advisors and say what you want about Reagan or Bush...but you always knew where those guys stood and where they were taking us. Obama's leadership always has that reservation to 'revise and extend his remarks' and you don't get much policy from him until after the fact (and even that is subject to change).

H

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Monday, August 23, 2010 10:11 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

"could talk good"

Hello,

The ability to speak intelligently, thoughtfully, and with a positive tone captured the hearts and minds of the American people during a time when we were still reeling from a President that came across as a warmongering simpleton dancing under the strings of Emperor Palpatine.

'Talking good' is indeed the quality that won this man the election. If he manages to be re-elected, it will also be because of that singular quality.

Heck, if Ron Paul could make a speech like Obama, he'd have had a shot at the Presidency. Though admittedly his name would still not be 'Fred.'

Skin color and background have been at least as much of an impediment to Obama as a boon, and it's frankly quite remarkable that the people of this nation were able to overlook it. No, Obama was not the candidate the Democrats wanted. He was the candidate they got, by virtue of him inspiring a generation. And he was the candidate the nation chose.

Because he could 'talk good.' Not because he was black. And if he proves to be an unsuccessful or unpopular President, he will have tarnished those who share his skin color no more than President Bush tarnished those with a paler complexion. He will rise or fall on his merits as a man, as will all who follow.

--Anthony

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Monday, August 23, 2010 10:46 AM

HERO

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
He was the candidate they got, by virtue of him inspiring a generation. And he was the candidate the nation chose.

He did not inspire a generation. He fooled them and he allowed them to fool themselves. He justified their lack of effort by fooling them into believing that he would magically fix their problems.

He was the culmination of fifty years of liberal thinking. All form, no substance. Wasted money, wasted opportunity, and affirmative action wasted on the wrong man. He was greeted with tears of joy because the Obama money would rain from heaven and make the poor rich and the rich poor and all would be right and good with the world.

Funny thing is you can see it in his eyes...Obama agrees with me. He knows he's not cut out for this. I feel sorry for him. I still hope he grows into the job, but everytime I think he's starting to catch up he slides further downhill.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Monday, August 23, 2010 10:59 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

"He was greeted with tears of joy because the Obama money would rain from heaven and make the poor rich and the rich poor"

Hello,

If that's what you think, then I believe you are missing a whole dimension to the election and the mindset of the nation. My vote contained no such aspirations. In fact, I voted for him despite knowing that this kind of wealth redistribution would be a goal, and despite believing that he would attack my 2nd ammendment rights. (He hasn't yet, mysteriously.) I voted for him despite the damage I foresaw (largely not manifest, since he's generally been continuing former policies in varying degrees) because there was another damage I hoped to correct. That other damage has not been corrected to my satisfaction, which is the source of grave disappointment. However, if you think he was voted for because he was black, or because he was going to give away money, then you have not even scratched my reasoning process with your insight into the voter's souls.

--Anthony

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Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:59 AM

HERO

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
If that's what you think, then I believe you are missing a whole dimension to the election and the mindset of the nation

Maybe, but I saw lots of video of folks weeping and talking bout their 'Obama money'.

H

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Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:05 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Anthony, you should know better by now. Anything done or said by, or involves Obama in any way, will be couched in the most viscerally derrogatory terms by some here, whether they know better or not.

More than anything, I think the election of Obama represented the American people's desire to get away from the previous eight years and what they represented, as well as for some, the horrendous thought of Palin being a heartbeat away from an elderly man with heart problems. But that's just my guess.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:26 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I don't know if there were any videos showing this, (nobody wept about it as far as I know) but many people (including myself) voted for Obama to obtain:

1) An end to the wars (I'm disappointed)
2) An end to torture as official or unofficial policy. (I don't know how the unofficial end of this is going.)
3) An end to violation of citizens' privacy. (I'm disappointed here, too.)
4) An end to laws making it okay to violate Civil Liberties under 'Special Circumstances.' (Still disappointed.)
5) An end to eternal detention without trial (Not pleased with this progress either.)
6) An end to cowboy diplomacy and the start of improved foreign relations. (I think we got some of this.)
7) An end to the Embargo of Cuba. (I haven't seen nearly enough movement on this.)

In exchange I felt I was risking

1) Socialized Medicine (Something I understand the desire for. Sadly, Medical Insurance Reform was implemented more ineptly than I imagined, and I worry that we will be gored by its horns in a few years.)
2) Higher Taxes (Barring some miraculous development, this is coming.)
3) A renewed 'Assault Weapons' Ban (I'm staggered this hasn't manifested. I wonder when or if this might come up? If not, why? Have the Dems moved away from this?)
4) Misguided stimulus attempts (We got this as a continuation and doubling down of previous policy.)

Some freebies I got that weren't in my mind include

1) Credit Card Reform. (Yay!)
2) Ninja Flyswatter. (Interesting, but ultimately useless to me.)
3) More Energy into the Alternative Energy Movement (Nice.)
4) Mixed Bag environmental disaster response. (I wanted much more.)

So far I've gotten very little of what I wanted, lost some of what I figured I'd lose, and got some freebies of varying value and consistency.

--Anthony

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Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:30 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

So according to "Hero" here, it will be 10,000 years before we have another white president? After all, Bush was the culmination of the neo-cons' dream, and look at what he did to this country. He started TWO unnecessary, unwarranted, and illegal wars of his own choosing, he got more Americans killed in terrorist attacks than anyone in U.S. history, he drowned an entire American city with his inaction and lack of concern, and much, much more. The man may have singlehandedly ENDED this country, started us down the final spiral down the drain with his disastrous economic, domestic, and foreign policies.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:43 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Hello,

I don't know if there were any videos showing this, (nobody wept about it as far as I know) but many people (including myself) voted for Obama to obtain:

1) An end to the wars (I'm disappointed)
2) An end to torture as official or unofficial policy. (I don't know how the unofficial end of this is going.)
3) An end to violation of citizens' privacy. (I'm disappointed here, too.)
4) An end to laws making it okay to violate Civil Liberties under 'Special Circumstances.' (Still disappointed.)
5) An end to eternal detention without trial (Not pleased with this progress either.)
6) An end to cowboy diplomacy and the start of improved foreign relations. (I think we got some of this.)
7) An end to the Embargo of Cuba. (I haven't seen nearly enough movement on this.)

In exchange I felt I was risking

1) Socialized Medicine (Something I understand the desire for. Sadly, Medical Insurance Reform was implemented more ineptly than I imagined, and I worry that we will be gored by its horns in a few years.)
2) Higher Taxes (Barring some miraculous development, this is coming.)
3) A renewed 'Assault Weapons' Ban (I'm staggered this hasn't manifested. I wonder when or if this might come up? If not, why? Have the Dems moved away from this?)
4) Misguided stimulus attempts (We got this as a continuation and doubling down of previous policy.)

Some freebies I got that weren't in my mind include

1) Credit Card Reform. (Yay!)
2) Ninja Flyswatter. (Interesting, but ultimately useless to me.)
3) More Energy into the Alternative Energy Movement (Nice.)
4) Mixed Bag environmental disaster response. (I wanted much more.)

So far I've gotten very little of what I wanted, lost some of what I figured I'd lose, and got some freebies of varying value and consistency.

--Anthony

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Nice. Perhaps all of us non-Obama-haters/tentative supporters should publish such a list.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:45 AM

HERO

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
He started TWO unnecessary, unwarranted, and illegal wars of his own choosing, he got more Americans killed in terrorist attacks than anyone in U.S. history, he drowned an entire American city with his inaction and lack of concern, and much, much more. The man may have singlehandedly ENDED this country, started us down the final spiral down the drain with his disastrous economic, domestic, and foreign policies.

In 10,000 years Bush will be remembered as a white, Republican, President who spread liberty to Iraq and Afganistan which in 10,000 years will be celebrating Bush Day. He also personally lead the rescue of tens of thousands of Americans after their city was flooded by liberal economic and social failure (the hurricane was a metaphore). And much, much more. He'll be hailed as the American Caeser, the hero brought down by his political enemies and followed by a hopelessly incompetent successor who would be quickly replaced by Presidents Palin, Beck, Bush, and a 10,000 year long line of Republican Presidents who would by trade, war, and technology spread American Democracy first to the world and then to the universe so that 10,000 years from now our children can bask in that perfect world that existed in the beginining when "all the world was America".

Either that or we'll be too busy fighting the talking monkeys to care...I'm good with either one.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I find those statements amazing. I said I found your remarks 'amazing'" Niki2, 2010.

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