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Friday, October 8, 2010 4:10 AM

KANEMAN


Yep. According to the Washington post, the panel that investagated the oil spill found the administration purpously underestimated the spill.

The panels words you ask:

"The administration withheld information from the public AND scientists, that contrasted starkly with Obama's pledge to make government more transparent"

"for two months the government's esimate of 1000 barrels of oil a day were highly inaccurate, by that time the true figure of 60,000 was released by independent swcientists"

"The administration created a pattern of misinformation that would last for months"

"The government took an overly causual approach to the calculation and release"

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Friday, October 8, 2010 4:46 AM

KANEMAN


Chrisisall to Auraptor:

"Obama's boys f**ked up, it's a mess. Lies. Bulls**t."


Care to take that back and admit you were wrong? I think you owe Auraptor an apology. Or is the panel just spewing Raptfacts(tm)?





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Friday, October 8, 2010 4:56 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Chrisisall to Auraptor:

"Obama's boys f**ked up, it's a mess. Lies. Bulls**t."


Care to take that back and admit you were wrong? I think you owe Auraptor an apology. Or is the panel just spewing Raptfacts(tm)?





.

I take back nothing. Obama's boys DID f**k up, and Obama must take a hefty load of credit for okaying stuff he didn't understand, and not taking the time to find out what the real deal was. That's what we all get for Obama hiring leftovers from past administrations to seem "middle of the aisle."
Bloody gutless wonder.




The laughing Chrisisall


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Friday, October 8, 2010 5:03 AM

KANEMAN


Yep. The four independent panels, that Obama created, are wrong. You are right. Do you enjoy losing the little credibility you had? Stay in denial....It is hilarious.

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Friday, October 8, 2010 5:07 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Yep. The four independent panels, that Obama created, are wrong. You are right.

Where did I say they were wrong?


The laughing Chrisisall


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Friday, October 8, 2010 5:14 AM

KANEMAN


Well, one would think "I take nothing back" is a denial of another's wrongyness...In this case you saying Obama didn't lie and sticking to that. Go read the article. The panel says the Obama administration Misled the American people AND scientists on purpose...sounds like a lie.

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Friday, October 8, 2010 5:29 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
The panel says the Obama administration

Not "Obama" hisself, but his admin.
Show me Obama clearly understanding or admitting to knowingly withholding info. Sure, he's responsible as Prez, but Prezes often default to what their peeps tell them, and run with it. It's the difference between being an idiot & a dirtbag.


The laughing Chrisisall


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Friday, October 8, 2010 5:41 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Show us all where President Obama knowingly lied, passed along information that he knew to be false.

Why can't you hold yourselves to the same standard of proof you hold the left to when it comes to Bush's numerous lies?


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Friday, October 8, 2010 5:45 AM

CHRISISALL


See, this here
Quote:

the White House budget office denied a request from NOAA to make public its worst-case estimate of how much oil could spew from the blown-out well. The Unified Command — the government team in charge of the spill response — also was discussing the possibility of making the numbers public, the report says.

has me thinkin' that it wasn't just Obama all by hisself sittin' in his office deciding to mislead the American peeps.


The laughing Chrisisall


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Friday, October 8, 2010 5:59 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Well, one would think "I take nothing back" is a denial of another's wrongyness...In this case you saying Obama didn't lie and sticking to that. Go read the article. The panel says the Obama administration Misled the American people AND scientists on purpose...sounds like a lie.



"Well, one would think..."


Yeah, if one were a fucking simple-minded moron, one would think that. Oh - you were referring to YOURSELF as the "one" who would think that. 'Nuff said.

Chris said OBAMA himself didn't lie. You quote the article as saying that THE ADMINISTRATION misled people. Where in the article does it say that THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF knowingly lied?

"Sounds like a lie..." Y'know what sounds like a lie? "The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa ."

That SOUNDS like a lie, because it's chalk full of untruths and half-truths and things that never happened. But you right-wing tea-bagging fucknuts insist that it isn't a lie, because Bush believed in it. (Hey, lots of people believe in god, too, but that doesn't make the bible "not a lie"...)


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

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Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:03 AM

STORYMARK


You can always tell the wingnuts are desperate when they start multiple threads on the same topic. Virtually screaming, "pleeeassse pay attention to meeeeeee!"

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:06 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Well, Story, you can certainly tell what Rushbaugh and GlenBeck are telling them to think!


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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
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Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:10 AM

DREAMTROVE


The spill was deliberate. They were testing something, maybe the dispersants. I would have thought PCS, they were trying to pass some legislation, maybe jack up the price of oil. Not sure. I am certain it was intentional on the part of BP and Obama. No one is that dumb. No one.

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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:14 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
The panel says the Obama administration

Not "Obama" hisself, but his admin.
Show me Obama clearly understanding or admitting to knowingly withholding info. Sure, he's responsible as Prez, but Prezes often default to what their peeps tell them, and run with it. It's the difference between being an idiot & a dirtbag.


The laughing Chrisisall




So, the president is NOT responsible for his presidency? HIS admin? No accountability, I guess.

So he's not transparent or accountable...Where is the change you dolts voted for?

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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:20 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Well, one would think "I take nothing back" is a denial of another's wrongyness...In this case you saying Obama didn't lie and sticking to that. Go read the article. The panel says the Obama administration Misled the American people AND scientists on purpose...sounds like a lie.



"Well, one would think..."


Yeah, if one were a fucking simple-minded moron, one would think that. Oh - you were referring to YOURSELF as the "one" who would think that. 'Nuff said.

Chris said OBAMA himself didn't lie. You quote the article as saying that THE ADMINISTRATION misled people. Where in the article does it say that THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF knowingly lied?

"Sounds like a lie..." Y'know what sounds like a lie? "The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa ."

That SOUNDS like a lie, because it's chalk full of untruths and half-truths and things that never happened. But you right-wing tea-bagging fucknuts insist that it isn't a lie, because Bush believed in it. (Hey, lots of people believe in god, too, but that doesn't make the bible "not a lie"...)


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.




It is hilarious watching you shit your pants over the knowledge your savior is just as much a bullshitting, lieing, fuck of a politician as all before him. That you bought his bullshit and have to peddle it for another two years is your fault, not mine. Place your anger at being duped and called out on it where it belongs...in the crock of barak.....'nuff said.

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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:31 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
You can always tell the wingnuts are desperate when they start multiple threads on the same topic. Virtually screaming, "pleeeassse pay attention to meeeeeee!"

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



Again you make no sense. Do you try to be this stupid?

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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:37 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:


So, the president is NOT responsible for his presidency? HIS admin? No accountability, I guess.


What part of "Sure, he's responsible as Prez, but Prezes often default to what their peeps tell them, and run with it. It's the difference between being an idiot & a dirtbag." did you NOT understand?? Seriously??


The laughing Chrisisall


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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:46 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:


So, the president is NOT responsible for his presidency? HIS admin? No accountability, I guess.


What part of "Sure, he's responsible as Prez, but Prezes often default to what their peeps tell them, and run with it. It's the difference between being an idiot & a dirtbag." did you NOT understand?? Seriously??


The laughing Chrisisall




Well, "he's responsible AS prez" doesn't come off as to sincere. If the president is ultimatly responsible for his admin. He IS responsible, period. Own the lie, the blunder, the misleadings. The truth shall set you free. I can see the hurt all this is causing you "pie in the sky" liberals. I'd feel like an idiot too, if I bought his shit hook line and sinker. Don't worry it only tells a little about your character, your decision making, and your suggestibility. I'm sure you are a decent person....Well, it's true.....

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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:47 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
You can always tell the wingnuts are desperate when they start multiple threads on the same topic. Virtually screaming, "pleeeassse pay attention to meeeeeee!"

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



Again you make no sense. Do you try to be this stupid?



If you can't understand, blame your amazingly low IQ.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:48 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:


So, the president is NOT responsible for his presidency? HIS admin? No accountability, I guess.


What part of "Sure, he's responsible as Prez, but Prezes often default to what their peeps tell them, and run with it. It's the difference between being an idiot & a dirtbag." did you NOT understand?? Seriously??


The laughing Chrisisall




Well, "he's responsible AS prez" doesn't come off as to sincere. If the president is ultimatly responsible for his admin. He IS responsible, period. Own the lie, the blunder, the misleadings. The truth shall set you free. I can see the hurt all this is causing you "pie in the sky" liberals. I'd feel like an idiot too, if I bought his shit hook line and sinker. Don't worry it only tells a little about your character, your decision making, and your suggestibility. I'm sure you are a decent person....Well, it's true.....



Unless your a Republican, then nothing is your fault.

God, you are such a lock steppin' tool.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:49 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
The spill was deliberate. They were testing something, maybe the dispersants. I would have thought PCS, they were trying to pass some legislation, maybe jack up the price of oil. Not sure. I am certain it was intentional on the part of BP and Obama. No one is that dumb. No one.



That steps fully into the tinfoil hat league.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:51 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:


So, the president is NOT responsible for his presidency? HIS admin? No accountability, I guess.


What part of "Sure, he's responsible as Prez, but Prezes often default to what their peeps tell them, and run with it. It's the difference between being an idiot & a dirtbag." did you NOT understand?? Seriously??


The laughing Chrisisall




Well, "he's responsible AS prez" doesn't come off as to sincere. If the president is ultimatly responsible for his admin. He IS responsible, period. Own the lie, the blunder, the misleadings. The truth shall set you free. I can see the hurt all this is causing you "pie in the sky" liberals. I'd feel like an idiot too, if I bought his shit hook line and sinker. Don't worry it only tells a little about your character, your decision making, and your suggestibility. I'm sure you are a decent person....Well, it's true.....




Again you make no sense. Do you try to be this stupid?


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:54 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Where is the change you dolts voted for?



Ask Scott Brown.


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Friday, October 8, 2010 6:59 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:



Well, "he's responsible AS prez" doesn't come off as to sincere. If the president is ultimatly responsible for his admin. He IS responsible, period. Own the lie, the blunder, the misleadings.

Unbelievable! So you're saying Bush is responsible for getting us into a needless war with lies, and responsible for all the troops who died just to settle a grudge??? I'm amazed! Kudos, Kane!
Quote:

I can see the hurt all this is causing you "pie in the sky" liberals. I'd feel like an idiot too, if I bought his shit hook line and sinker.
LOL, keep thinkin' that if it helps ya.


The laughing Chrisisall


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Friday, October 8, 2010 7:06 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:



Well, "he's responsible AS prez" doesn't come off as to sincere. If the president is ultimatly responsible for his admin. He IS responsible, period. Own the lie, the blunder, the misleadings.

Unbelievable! So you're saying Bush is responsible for getting us into a needless war with lies, and responsible for all the troops who died just to settle a grudge??? I'm amazed! Kudos, Kane!
Quote:

I can see the hurt all this is causing you "pie in the sky" liberals. I'd feel like an idiot too, if I bought his shit hook line and sinker.
LOL, keep thinkin' that if it helps ya.


The laughing Chrisisall




Fuck Bush. Who is talking about Bush? The thread is about your savior..the crock of barak. Good day sheeple person.

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Friday, October 8, 2010 7:22 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:


So, the president is NOT responsible for his presidency? HIS admin? No accountability, I guess.


What part of "Sure, he's responsible as Prez, but Prezes often default to what their peeps tell them, and run with it. It's the difference between being an idiot & a dirtbag." did you NOT understand?? Seriously??


The laughing Chrisisall




Well, "he's responsible AS prez" doesn't come off as to sincere. If the president is ultimatly responsible for his admin. He IS responsible, period. Own the lie, the blunder, the misleadings. The truth shall set you free. I can see the hurt all this is causing you "pie in the sky" liberals. I'd feel like an idiot too, if I bought his shit hook line and sinker. Don't worry it only tells a little about your character, your decision making, and your suggestibility. I'm sure you are a decent person....Well, it's true.....




Again you make no sense. Do you try to be this stupid?


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.




I don't think there's any effort involved.

Kane is just simply an idiot of epic proportions.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 8, 2010 7:33 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:


That steps fully into the tinfoil hat league.



And yet, getting oil out of the ground is the business of these people (BP and the other oil companies involved and the regulators who were rushing them). Drilling a well is not that difficult, it is very hard to believe that people who have been in the business for decades could screw up this badly, all at once. A clusterfuck, or to borrow the popular description of this event from around this forum, a gusherfuck.

It's kind of like how the Army Corp of Engineers is supposed to design and build levees that work. That's their job. Yet the only way the levee failure from Katrina could have happened the way it happened is if someone embezzled the money intended for the levees around New Orleans.

There's a lot being unsaid here, by both the government and the companies involved. I'd second DT in saying it was probably deliberate, though my take is the intention was to build support for passing a cap and trade tax on carbon emissions, which if you check out the press releases from BP for the past couple of years, they seem to actually WANT for some inscrutable reason.

More on topic with this particular subject: looking back at the old threads, there wasn't a single one of us, conservative or liberal, who believed the absolutely ridiculous low-estimates the government was claiming.

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Friday, October 8, 2010 7:33 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:


So, the president is NOT responsible for his presidency? HIS admin? No accountability, I guess.


What part of "Sure, he's responsible as Prez, but Prezes often default to what their peeps tell them, and run with it. It's the difference between being an idiot & a dirtbag." did you NOT understand?? Seriously??


The laughing Chrisisall




Well, "he's responsible AS prez" doesn't come off as to sincere. If the president is ultimatly responsible for his admin. He IS responsible, period. Own the lie, the blunder, the misleadings. The truth shall set you free. I can see the hurt all this is causing you "pie in the sky" liberals. I'd feel like an idiot too, if I bought his shit hook line and sinker. Don't worry it only tells a little about your character, your decision making, and your suggestibility. I'm sure you are a decent person....Well, it's true.....




Again you make no sense. Do you try to be this stupid?


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.




I don't think there's any effort involved.

Kane is just simply an idiot of epic proportions.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



Retard I wrote that. Go back and look 8 or 9 posts up. Don't worry keep trying you will catch on sooner or later, maybe.

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