Emergency Powers: Water Shortage by Bytemite

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Emergency Powers: Water Shortage

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UPDATED: Thursday, January 27, 2011 08:45
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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:15 AM

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51113899-76/bill-military-emergency-
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Anyone else get a bad feeling about this?

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:36 AM

CANTTAKESKY

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Anyone else get a bad feeling about this?

Why do they need water more than a hospital? Or regular citizens?

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Everything I say is just my opinion, not fact.

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:52 AM

BYTEMITE

I mean, and even IF they don't end up muscling in or hording, will this end up in a fight over who gets what and how to distribute that will delay aid for the disaster area?

Different entities with different priorities given equal say over a common resource? Duel Control =! Dual Control.

And that's not even considering how these guys put a big plume of contamination in the groundwater back into the 1940s and 1960s that everyone else is having to deal with. Since when are they a source of water?

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:08 PM

CANTTAKESKY

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Since when are they a source of water?

Good question.

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:15 PM

DREAMTROVE

Run.

In a word. If you don't have your own army of predator drones and nukes... run for your life.

The water takeover is the world's worst new disaster. The goal is to irreversibly contaminate the planet in an effort to kill of its population.

My apologies on behalf of my ancestors for creating Israel if it turns out it's our fault. (Not sure it is though, I think this one is on the old white boys.)

Seriously though, the reason to give this to the military is so that contamination can continue. The US military is exempt from all land use regulations. With control of the water, they can easily contaminate it.

Is this national?

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:25 PM

BYTEMITE

Just in Utah, but who knows, this could be a rehearsal before the big show.

They're also putting the world's first cyberspace intelligence gathering supercenter out here. when it's completed, I will have to stop posting here.

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:09 PM

CANTTAKESKY

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originally posted by Bytemite:
They're also putting the world's first cyberspace intelligence gathering supercenter out here. when it's completed, I will have to stop posting here.

When that happens, can you give the rest of us a heads up as well? Thanks.

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originally posted by Dreamtrove:
Run

To where? That's the question. Is Peru far enough?

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:41 PM

DREAMTROVE

Byte

That's really scary.

CTS,

Depends how well you can defend Peru.

here's a heads up: The most important keystone of sovereignty is currency. As long as you can keep control of your currency, you're a country.

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Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:14 AM

FREMDFIRMA

I'm grabbing this before it disappears, cause I suspect it's tremendously relevant.

From the AP Wire.

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SALT LAKE CITY – Officials say Dugway Proving Grounds has reopened for incoming personnel, hours after it was locked down to resolve a "serious concern."

Army base spokeswoman Paula Thomas says personnel were allowed to enter the base early Thursday and preparations were under way to allow people inside to leave.

Base commander Col. William E. King late Wednesday announced that gates were locked to both incoming and outgoing personnel, saying there was a serious concern but that no one was in danger.

But neither King nor Thomas have disclosed any details about the problem.

The Salt Lake Tribune reports that a lockdown began at 5:24 p.m. MST Wednesday with 1,200 to 1,400 people inside Dugway at the time.

Military weapons are tested at Dugway, located about 85 miles southwest of Salt Lake City.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Officials say Dugway Proving Grounds has reopened for incoming personnel, hours after it was locked down to resolve a "serious concern."

Army base spokeswoman Paula Thomas says personnel were allowed to enter the base early Thursday and preparations were under way to allow people inside to leave.

Base commander Col. William E. King late Wednesday announced that gates were locked to both incoming and outgoing personnel, saying there was a serious concern but one was in danger.

But neither King nor Thomas have disclosed any details about the problem.

The Salt Lake Tribune reports that a lockdown began at 5:24 p.m. MST Wednesday with 1,200 to 1,400 people inside Dugway at the time.

Military weapons are tested at Dugway, located about 85 miles southwest of Salt Lake City.

Yeah, very scary, and I think we can damn well assume that despite that whole "No cause for alarm" bullshit, something got loose - first they tried a lockdown, and then on realizing it was good and truly wilded, they'll play it off like they did with them ticks that got loose out of Fort Plum...

If I lived in Utah, I'd be testing my goddamn water supply for contaminants in a real hurry, not that it'd matter too goddamn much if that shit gets into the water table.

Bout all one can hope for is that it's some kinda halfassed pathetic and ineffective bug like their lab-cooked version of the 1918 flu, instead of something like Case Blue or Captain Trips.

-Frem

P.S. I find the coincidental timing of these events so inexplicably suspicious I am willing to call it before the fact, but as usual, I damn well hope to hell I'm wrong.

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Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:19 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Oh yes, and for the ignorant morons before they start shouting "it's just an army base"...
It's NOT.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugway_Proving_Ground

No more than Ft Detrick, or Ft Plum aka Plum Island.

-F

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Thursday, January 27, 2011 4:15 AM

DREAMTROVE

I used to work for a company that did material stress analysis for their containers. I suspected without the work they would just have put the stuff in tin cans, but I wasn't on that project anyway. But it did open my eyes to "oh, our govt. is saying there are no chem. and bio weapons, but wants to know all the details on whats needed to store thousands of tons of various toxic agents, and hold the pressure down from live culture bioweapons. Interesting.

Shades of the stand though. I would guess that someday a plague is coming out of one of those places, and it ain't striking the enemy.

ETA: Oh, someone I knew was killed years ago as a result of a testing accident. I think it was there. Anyway, they gave the soldiers hazmat pjs with no seal, and then sprayed them with chemical weapons to see what would happen. As it turns out, they would die.

ETA: Wiki check says that the rangers testing was there until '91, so this was in 1990, so it was Utah

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Thursday, January 27, 2011 5:13 AM

BYTEMITE

Yep, heard about this on the news last night, haven't had time to post it.

I'm not worried about groundwater, no one drinks out of the surface aquifers anywhere in Utah anyway because they're all already contaminated with lead and arsenic simply because of soil conditions out here, and in the cities there's also a lot of VOC plumes. If something shows up it'll be biological or airborne. Potentially both, if birds or insects are the vector.

Of course, there's always the people who think that Dugway is the new Area 51. /joke

My brother's met a few people who have had some weird encounters out there, with you know lights from above and the whole bit, but no fuzzy memories of being on a table with little grey men around them or anything. Probably very human agents grab people who unwittingly get too close to sensitive sites for questioning then release them.

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Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:45 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Well, the weird lights and stuff is because other bases use the region to test various aircraft - seriously if you saw a V-22 Osprey doing a hover at night it'd look damn strange, wouldn't it ?

Not to mention they seem to be still testing Aurora, though heaven knows why we'd ever need it since recon has all gone to drones and satellites these days.

For security reasons, they try to keep the testing areas as much in military airspace as possible, so you get a correllation there that's obvious when you think about it, but still hands out plenty of conspiracy fodder.

Besides which, were they gonna hide something like that it wouldn't be out there, it'd be in Ft Meade, over there near Chisolm St....

Anyhow, someone paid me to do a photo-recon of Dugway once, but I called it a miss and refunded their money when on the first pass I noticed live claymore mines at the second perimeter where the security goes from soft to hard, hell if I was gonna take that kinda risk for what they were offerin - so you might wanna warn the curious not to get too damn close, neh ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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