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The TEA party - Right about EVERYTHING

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Monday, July 25, 2011 12:06 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



July 25, 2011
By Randall Hoven



The false narrative is that the Tea Party is a bunch of stubborn nuts, if not outright racists. In truth, the Tea Party has been right about everything, while almost everyone else has been nuts, especially the "experts."

Minimum wage. One of the first things Democrats did after taking back Congress in 2007 was raise the federal minimum wage 41% from 2007 to 2009. Result? The unemployment rate went from 4.4% in May 2007 to 10.1% in 2009. It is 9.2% even today -- four years later.

As for teens, the unemployment rate went from 14.9% to 27.1%, the highest ever recorded, meaning since 1948. Today it is still a high 24.5%. And for blacks: from a low of 7.9% in 2007 to 16.5% in 2010. It is still a high 16.2%.

The Democrat Congress also decided to apply the same minimum wages to American Samoa. Results? Near-decimation of its economy, one that had been based largely on low-cost tuna canning and textile work.

... employment fell 19 percent from 2008 to 2009 ... tuna canning employment fell 55 percent from 2009 to 2010... Average inflation-adjusted earnings fell by 5 percent from 2008 to 2009 and by 11 percent from 2006 to 2009.



http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/07/the_tea_party_right_about_every
thing.html



( This guy sums it up, quite nicely. Be brave, and face the truth. For once )


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, July 25, 2011 1:04 PM

MINCINGBEAST


I hate liberals. I hate the way they smell. In the words of Orwell, they're all eunuch types with a vegetarian scent who believe that the working class ought to read the works of Edward Carpenter or some other pious sodomite. Thing is, liberals, for all their faults faults, are preferable to the tea party. I say this as a devout racist with latent fascist tendencies.

I may have brain damage from huffing gasoline, but I know that "causation" and "correlation" are distinct concepts, and doubt that the world wide economic collapse we are currently all enjoying is attributable to the minimum wage being raised. In fact, if world wide prosperity is dependent on sub-living wages...well, I'm an anarchist. Let's burn everything down.

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Monday, July 25, 2011 1:07 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I happen to like the way conservative women actually wash AND comb their hair.

It's attractive.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, July 25, 2011 1:13 PM

MINCINGBEAST


Agreed. Proper grooming goes a long way towards making unpalatable notions presentable.

And I am with the tea party as far as their populist angst goes. Clearly, the world is awful, and something needs to change. And that something is Congress! See, if we'd only throw all those bums out...it would totally work this time.

However, their proposed solutions suck. Granted, they are preferable to my proposed solution, which is drug use and/or extinction. So I tip my hat to them for at least giving a damn.

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Monday, July 25, 2011 1:57 PM

BYTEMITE


The problem with Keynesian economics is that it doesn't necessarily factor in value created by real world products and labour.

1950s, US was in debt, but it was the one standing economy left in the world that was still PRODUCING things with a real world value.

Now, not so much. We do still produce some things, but either much of it is going over seas, or it is resources that are quickly consumed and have questionable value (bullets, bombs).

Also, not near as much debt.

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Monday, July 25, 2011 5:00 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


The average tea-bagger not only isn't right about everything - they most likely can't even spell the WORD "everything"!



















































"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:25 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


You'll ignore and dismiss any message, even a cry for help, if it's not spelt accurately, huh ?

Beyond juvenile.





( now, let's see if he takes the bait... )


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:19 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


OMG Kwicko! So funny! Especially the one demanding English as our "offical" language.

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:31 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
OMG Kwicko! So funny! Especially the one demanding English as our "offical" language.


The mispelling is intentional.

Got you to read their sign.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:42 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
OMG Kwicko! So funny! Especially the one demanding English as our "offical" language.


The mispelling is intentional.

Got you to read their sign.




Ain't buyin' it, dude. Next you'll claim that ALL the spelling errors were on porpoise. I think they're all a bunch of rednek retreads, myself, who escaped from Deliverance. Main reason they're opposed to public education is it was too hard for 'em.

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:49 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

Ain't buyin' it, dude. Next you'll claim that ALL the spelling errors were on porpoise.


Yes, dried porpoise skin is great for posters. But again, you did read the signs.

Made you loook.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:27 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

Ain't buyin' it, dude. Next you'll claim that ALL the spelling errors were on porpoise.


Yes, dried porpoise skin is great for posters. But again, you did read the signs.

Made you loook.





Yeah, I did read the signs. Then laughed my ass off thinking that any idea that DUMB had to be held by SOMEBODY THAT DUMB.

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:01 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Let me get this straight. They believe in English (amazing they can spell it) as the offical lanoguage (you missed that one) of are-country, that Obama is the lier in chief polititian who we should impeah, and who did'nt protect our boarders from all illegal alliens. They have resiance against tax's, which are redistribtion of wealth and endangers someone's daugters' mortage, which is a hugh (Grant?) mistake, and they tell us "your not paying attention" to fox, which would keep us infromed of the socilism creeping into our constution, making it like Gemany. They want us to repeel something which is bad for wroking people like Joe the Plummer. Is that about it?

Well, who can argu with that? I think their stans is very sensable and I do'nt falt them for wat they belive atall.

Okay, Mike; award for the first LONG laugh of the day...I too laughed my ass off. Someone might tell them that there's no glory in ignorance, and if they want English to be our official language, they should learn how to SPELL it. These are the simple folk, the ones Fox and the Tea Party are aimed at because their ignorance is wonderfully fertile ground in which to sow their crop of hatred.

Ooops, sorry about that. Someone shuld tell them that they'res no gloury in ignrance, and if they want English as an offal langage, they shuld lern to spell it.

The original post isn't worth a response, but mocking them sure is fun! That's all they deserve; as for all the intelligent Republicans, conservatives (and even a few Tea Partiers) out there, they're not the ones who go out to gather, drink beer, holler and wave misspelled signs, and THEY'RE the ones waking up these days.

(Oh, and nice try, Hero; nobody believes anyone would be so stupid as to deliberately misspell their message to get people to read it!)



Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:32 AM

STORYMARK


Ah, a comedy thread.

Never get tired of seeing those signs.

I notice that the local teabaggers, who leave scads of comments on our local paper's site every day, usually possess comparable linguistic skills. They usually employ these atrocious skills to then call liberals "stoopid".

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:40 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Ah, a comedy thread.

Never get tired of seeing those signs.

I notice that the local teabaggers, who leave scads of comments on our local paper's site every day, usually possess comparable linguistic skills. They usually employ these atrocious skills to then call liberals "stoopid".





Signs? Actually, those are nothing but an attempted thread hi-jack, a diversion to keep folks from discussing initial article, with which this thread was started.

You can debate the benefits of our terrific govt educational system in another thread.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:36 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
OMG Kwicko! So funny! Especially the one demanding English as our "offical" language.


The mispelling is intentional.




This, coming from someone who just misspelled "misspelling", and who can't spell "intelligence", nor tell the difference between "then" and "than".

Yeah, I'm sure it's intentional. The tea-baggers are intentionally trying to look like idiots and be made fun of, in order to show us all just how smart and serious they are.

Makes perfect sense!

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


See? That's all part of their plan to be right about "everything". Or, in their case "everthing". Or "everthign". Whatever.

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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:54 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

The mispelling is intentional.
Yes, that phrase belongs next to the one demanding that English be our offical language. Hero, you fit right in!

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Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:10 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Signs? Actually, those are nothing but an attempted thread hi-jack, a diversion to keep folks from discussing initial article, with which this thread was started.



Okay, lets talk about how ridiculous that article is.

First minimum wage, the article and the cited study tried to claim that the increase in minimum wage cause more of an unemployment problem then the great recession. The study while looking nice comes down to estimates had the recession not happened. The funny thing is the study doesn't seem to have any historical data from past raises of the minimum wage. You would expect to see large jumps in unemployment after each raise, but of course you don't.

Next is TARP. The article seems to confuse TARP with other programs, thinking they did the same things or worked in the same areas. The article also eludes that bailing out foreign banks was not needed, ignoring the fact that the US economy is very much affected by the world economy.

The stimulus, please explain how putting money into the economy killed jobs.

Health Care reform, really? It is not even in full effect yet. Yes we did see high job creation coming out of the recession. Stimulus anyone? No one expected job creation on that level to continue.

The Drilling moratorium, please just look up how much land oil companies have permits to drill on right now but haven’t.

The GOP budgets gutted social programs. That would have killed the economy. If you gut social programs people don't have money to buy goods and the economy slows even more.

Keeping the Bush tax cuts for people making less then 250K a year, not all of them. You keep hearing that the government should be run like a business. Well in business you often look to increase revenue.

Oh, it also interesting to look it up and see that gap between rich and poor has only gotten wider since Reagan got his big tax cuts. Taxes and government spending always redistribute money. Right now it is doing that from the poor to the rich.

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Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:35 AM

BYTEMITE


The term rednecks does refer to farmers, and Scottish Presbyterians, also comes from the name of a corporate resistance mining union from early last century. They wore red bandanas around their necks. They were crushed, horrifically, by a goon squad.

._.

Also, there's a reason the browncoats in Firefly at Serenity Valley are wearing red bandanas.

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Wednesday, July 27, 2011 5:44 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
















































Al Qaeda Dictator Saddam Hussein Obama Bin Laden Soetoro says reading and writing English no longer a requirement in US skools
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=49035



Quote:

USDA National Fluoride Database of Selected Beverages and Foods

Peaches, raw 4 mcg; Pears, raw 2 mcg; Raisins 234 mcg; Watermelon, raw 1 mcg; Tossed salad 5 mcg; French fries, McDONALD'S 115 mcg; Alcoholic beverage, beer, regular 44 mcg; Alcoholic beverage, wine, red 105 mcg; Alcoholic beverage, wine, white 202 mcg; Grape juice, white 204 mcg; Carbonated, cola, diet, fast food type, without ice 78 mcg; Carbonated, cola, fast food type, without ice 65 mcg; Carbonated, cola, PEPSI, all regions 32 mcg; Carbonated, cola, COCA-COLA, all regions 49 mcg; Carbonated, cola, DIET PEPSI, South 66 mcg; Carbonated, cola, DIET COKE, South 72 mcg; Carbonated, lemon-lime, SPRITE, all regions 48 mcg; Carbonated, root beer 83 mcg; Carbonated, water, fruit-flavored 105 mcg; Cranberry juice cocktail and blends, light, ready-to-drink 70 mcg; Fruit drink, HI-C, ready-to-drink 22 mcg; Fruit flavored drinks, KOOL-AID, ready-to-drink 43 mcg; Fruit juice drink, apple, ready-to-drink 104 mcg; Coffee, brewed 91 mcg; Tea, brewed, microwave, South 322 mcg; Tea, instant, powder, unsweetened 89,772 mcg.

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/Fluoride/fluoride.pdf
http://truthradio.tv







Note that the original Tea Party didn't just throw British tea into the ocean, they threw British OPIUM in the ocean.


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Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:34 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Welcome Nickerson, don't think we've met before. Given you're the only one to really address the thread, I'll respond to you. Except there's nothing TO respond, as you covered everything beautifully. Won't matter to Raptor or our other righties, but thank you for taking the time to do so.

Raptor, most of us didn't address the article for all the reasons Nickerson put up; because the article is shit (I'm less polite than you, Nick) and we've been over ALL that many, many times before to no avail. We know trying to communicate with you is an exercise in futility, so the signs are much more fun. If there was ever any chance of communication, maybe some would have addressed the issue. But we know there isn't.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:50 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Nick & Niki: Exactly.

And I wasn't trying to "deflect", as Rappy points out. I was simply illustrating in graphic detail that he's 100% wrong, as always.

Rappy, this is YOUR post. YOUR title says that the tea party is "Right about EVERYTHING". YOU purposely capitalized the "EVERYTHING" to show that you believe that they are 100% correct about 100% of the things they say.

Again, you make such broad, sweeping generalizations, such pure black-and-white accusations - THEY'RE RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!!! - that all *I* need to do to prove you wrong is show one simple thing they got wrong. So I showed a bunch.

And the point is this: If you tea-baggers can't even be trusted to pay attention to the details enough to spell your protest signs correctly, then what else are you overlooking or ignoring? If you can't be trusted to even spell the word "Constitution" correctly, how can we ever trust you to uphold it (especially when, like Boehner and Cain, you don't even know that document from our Declaration of Independence, and think they're interchangeable)?

So again, far from being "right about EVERYTHING", you tea-baggers have been shown to be right about next to nothing.



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:43 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
The term rednecks does refer to farmers, and Scottish Presbyterians, also comes from the name of a corporate resistance mining union from early last century. They wore red bandanas around their necks. They were crushed, horrifically, by a goon squad.


A government sponsored and supported goon squad, lets not forget that little detail...
Red was also a color used by those unions in solidarity with the IWW, because prior to certain later events, the socialists and communists were very much pro-union, it was only when anarchism became a threat to their own political goals that the break occured and the IWW skewed more in a collective anarchist direction while the neutered, officially approved employee-pacification unions formulated under that scumbag Gompers.

I avoid using the term "redneck" these days cause of it being mostly co-opted by ignorant racist fuckheads (the IWW was anti-racist even in the early 1900's, yet another reason they were hated by folk making political bank on racial divides), but I'll generally settle for "hillbilly" - which is ironic in hindsight cause due to migration to auto industry jobs when they were plentiful, and sure beat mining coal... there's a damn lot of em here, mostly farmers now - why you think I get on so well with em ?

Oh, and just so it's abundantly clear, this particular faction of folk is also the pool from which the anti-fascist brigades which snuck overseas to fight Franco (who, mind you, THIS government SUPPORTED) and as such would have no truck with most of these "Tea Party" shitheels cause their ancestors heard the same bullshit from the Fascists and their enablers all before, and know damn well what they're listening to.

Also worth noting - this from a conversation with a fellow Wataugan descendant.
Just cause some of our ancestors fought King George doesn't mean we supported the fucking Federalists, and just cause some of em fought the Union doesn't mean they supported the Confederacy either - we fought for self-determination, the right to make up our own minds, to make our own choices...

And this so-called "Tea Party" stands very much in the way of that, spouting all the rhetoric of tyrants past - we'll have none of it, thankee.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:18 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

A government sponsored and supported goon squad, lets not forget that little detail...


I mostly figured the government part of "government goon squad" was redundant.

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