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The Right's Neverending, Ongoing War on LEGAL Voters
Saturday, June 9, 2012 6:49 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:01 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:57 AM
Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:07 AM
Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:13 AM
Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:29 AM
WHOZIT
Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Huh. Quoting somebody word for word is now "distorting" their statements. Funny that you'd use Boortz as a bastion of credibility, though. This is the guy that even O'Reilly refers to as "a vicious son of a bitch"; this is the guy who refers to Katrina victims as "debris". No wonder you're in love with him!
Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:48 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:52 AM
Quote:GOLDBERG: Personally, I think the voting age should be much, higher, not lower. I think it was a mistake to lower it to 18, to be brutally honest….t is a simple fact of science that nothing correlates more with ignorance and stupidity than youth. We’re all born idiots, and we only get over that condition as we get less young. And yet there’s this thing in this culture where, ‘Oh, young people are for it so it must be special.’ No, the reason young people are for it because they don’t know better. That’s why we call them young people. [...] The fact that young people think socialism is better than capitalism. That’s proof of what social scientists call their stupidity and their ignorance. And that’s something that conservatives have to beat out of them. Either literally or figuratively as far as I’m concerned.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Those quotes blew my mind. We know of course that's what some of them are THINKING, but I didn't think they were dumb enough to actually SAY it...
Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:45 AM
NEWOLDBROWNCOAT
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I think there is a very valid claim that welfare recipients shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Huh. Quoting somebody word for word is now "distorting" their statements. Funny that you'd use Boortz as a bastion of credibility, though. This is the guy that even O'Reilly refers to as "a vicious son of a bitch"; this is the guy who refers to Katrina victims as "debris". No wonder you're in love with him! Know WHY O'Reilly called Boortz that? Because Boortz called Bill out for making a tasteless , racist 'joke'. In April 2003, Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly hosted a fundraiser for Best Friends, a charity benefiting inner-city schoolchildren. As reported in the Washington Post (4/15/03), O'Reilly was trying to fill the time before a singing group connected with the charity, called the Best Men, was set to perform, and quipped: "Does anyone know where the Best Men are? I hope they're not in the parking lot stealing our hubcaps." But go right ahead and defend O'Reilly, all day long.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 9:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Those quotes blew my mind. We know of course that's what some of them are THINKING, but I didn't think they were dumb enough to actually SAY it... I think there is a very valid claim that welfare recipients shouldn't be allowed to vote. "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." - Attributed to ALEXANDER FRASER TYTLER, LORD WOODHOUSELEE. Unverified.
Quote: And Niki, why don't you and MM dig a bit deeper, and try to find even MORE obscure 'voices' for the Right. ROFLMAO !!!
Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: Those quotes blew my mind. We know of course that's what some of them are THINKING, but I didn't think they were dumb enough to actually SAY it... I think there is a very valid claim that welfare recipients shouldn't be allowed to vote. "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." - Attributed to ALEXANDER FRASER TYTLER, LORD WOODHOUSELEE. Unverified. And Niki, why don't you and MM dig a bit deeper, and try to find even MORE obscure 'voices' for the Right. ROFLMAO !!!
Quote: The following unverified quotation has been attributed to Tytler, most notably as part of a longer piece which began circulating on the Internet shortly after the 2000 U.S. Presidential Election. A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. ( There's more, snipped.) There is no reliable record of Alexander Tytler's having made the statement. In fact, this passage actually comprises two quotations, which didn't begin to appear together until the 1970s. The first portion (italicized above) first appeared on December 9, 1951, as part of what appears to be an op-ed piece in The Daily Oklahoman under the byline Elmer T. Peterson.
Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:13 PM
Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: The point, that when the people can vote themselves goodies from the public trough, it'll end w/ the collapse of a nation, is a valid one. Just look at Greece.
Monday, June 11, 2012 4:36 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Monday, June 11, 2012 7:12 AM
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