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Obama's math doesn't add up ( NOT FOX )

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:57 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!




But , as we see at the end, Obama isn't smarter than a 7th grader, when it comes to math. The man said so himself.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:02 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


But what if he has "six studies"?






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:05 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Cannot, or will not, respond to the video from cnn ?

Not surprised.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:12 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2012/04/25/w
hat-the-cbo-really-said-about-obamas-budget


"The Congressional Budget Office did not discuss this alternative fiscal scenario in its analysis of the president's budget—but it should have. Such a discussion would have shown that the president's budget and the alternative fiscal scenario would produce similar short-term economic performance, but the president's budget would boost economic growth in the longer term compared with the alternative because of its smaller deficits and debt.

Simply put, it's disingenuous to claim that the Congressional Budget Office's analysis shows the president's policies hurt the economy, based on a comparison with an unrealistic current law baseline. Even the House-passed budget of Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan—despite its draconian spending cuts—has somewhat higher debt over the next decade than the budget's current-law projections. Compared to current policy, however, the president's budget would boost the economy more in the short run and promote stronger growth in the long run."

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/04-20-Econ
omic_Budget.pdf




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Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:17 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



4 years, ( 2 with complete control of Congress ) the President has been unable to spur any real growth to speak of.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:22 AM

STORYMARK


HA! Whine that the video isn't addressed, and then when it is (in a way that honestly analyzes the facts, and doesn't just rely on "Obama gonna kill us all!"and he spouts a generic talking point, refusing to actually engage with the information posted in the response he asked for.

Priceless.


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum


"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:33 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
HA! Whine that the video isn't addressed, and then when it is (in a way that honestly analyzes the facts, and doesn't just rely on "Obama gonna kill us all!"and he spouts a generic talking point, refusing to actually engage with the information posted in the response he asked for.

Priceless.



Rappy saw all those words and did not know what to do so he went to his book of baseless attacks.

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


As I said before, I will put this up every time someone drags out that old saw about Democrats having had complete control. Feel free to ignore it, as anyone who bothered to read it the first time already knows it, but I will continue to call out the lie:
Quote:

One of the standard Republican talking points is that the Democrats had a filibuster-proof, super majority for two years between 2008 and 2010. This talking point is usually trotted out when liberals complain that the Republicans filibustered virtually every piece of legislation proposed by Obama or the Democrats over that period of time.

The implication is that Democrats had ample opportunity to pass legislation and that the reason they didn’t pass more legislation doesn’t have anything to do with the Republicans. The Truth is that the Democrats only had a filibuster-proof majority for 24 working days during that period. Here are the details:

To define terms, a Filibuster-Proof Majority or Super Majority is the number of votes required to overcome a filibuster in the Senate. According to current Senate rules, 60 votes are required to overcome a filibuster.

Here is a time-line of the events after the 2008 election:

1. BALANCE BEFORE THE ELECTION. In 2007 – 2008 the balance in the Senate was 51-49 in favor of the Democrats. On top of that, there was a Republican president who would likely veto any legislation the Republicans didn’t like. Not exactly a super majority.

2. BIG GAIN IN 2008, BUT STILL NO SUPER MAJORITY. Coming out the 2008 election, the Democrats made big gains, but they didn’t immediately get a Super Majority. The Minnesota Senate race required a recount and was not undecided for more than six months. During that time, Norm Coleman was still sitting in the Senate and the Balance 59-41, still not a Super Majority.

3. KENNEDY GRAVELY ILL. Teddy Kennedy casts his last vote in April and leaves Washington for good around the first of May. Technically he could come back to Washington vote on a pressing issue, but in actual fact, he never returns, even to vote on the Sotomayor confirmation. That leaves the balance in the Senate 58-41, two votes away from a super majority.

4. STILL NO SUPER MAJORITY. In July, Al Frankin was finally declared the winner and was sworn in on July 7th, 2009, so the Democrats finally had a Super Majority of 60-40 six and one-half months into the year. However, by this point, Kennedy was unable to return to Washington even to participate in the Health Care debate, so it was only a technical super majority because Kennedy could no longer vote and the Senate does not allow proxies. Now the actual actual balance of voting members is 59-40 not enough to overcome a Republican filibuster.

5. SENATE IS IN RECESS. Even if Kennedy were able to vote, the Senate went into summer recess three weeks later, from August 7th to September 8th.

6. KENNEDY DIES. Six weeks later, on Aug 26, 2009 Teddy Kennedy died, putting the balance at 59-40. Now the Democrats don’t even have technical super majority.

7. FINALLY, A SUPER MAJORITY! Kennedy’s replacement was sworn in on September 25, 2009, finally making the majority 60-40, just enough for a super majority.

8. SENATE ADJOURNS. However the Senate adjourned for the year on October 9th, only providing 11 working days of super majority, from September 25th to October 9th.

8. SCOTT BROWN ELECTED. Scott Brown was elected in November of 2009. The Senate was not in session during November and December of 2009. The Senate was in session for 10 days in January, but Scott Brown was sworn into office on February 4th, so the Democrats only had 13 days of super majority in 2010.

Summary: The Democrats only had 24 days of Super Majority between 2008 and 2010.

Discussion: The Democrats had a super majority for a total of 24 days. On top of that, the period of Super Majority was split into one 11-day period and one 13-day period. Given the glacial pace that business takes place in the Senate, this was way too little time for the Democrats pass any meaningful legislation, let alone get bills through committees and past all the obstructionistic tactics the Republicans were using to block legislation.

Further, these Super Majorities count Joe Lieberman as a Democrat even though he was by this time an Independent. Even though he was Liberal on some legislation, he was very conservative on other issues and opposed many of the key pieces of legislation the Democrats and Obama wanted to pass. For example, he was adamantly opposed to “Single Payer” health care and vowed to support a Republican Filibuster if it ever came to the floor.

Summary:

1. 1/07 – 12/08 – 51-49 – Ordinary Majority.
2. 1/09 – 7/14/09 – 59-41 – Ordinary Majority. (Coleman/Franklin Recount.)
3. 7/09 – 8/09 - 60-40 – Technical Super Majority, but since Kennedy is unable to vote, the Democrats can’t overcome a filibuster
4. 8/09 – 9/09 - 59-40 – Ordinary Majority. (Kennedy dies)
5. 9/09 – 10/09 - 60-40 – Super Majority for 11 working days.
6. 1/10 – 2/10 – 60-40 – Super Majority for 13 working days

Total Time of the Democratic Super Majority: 24 Working days.


And thank you for addressing the facts regarding the video in question, Nick.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Sunday, October 28, 2012 12:38 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

Summary:

1. 1/07 – 12/08 – 51-49 – Ordinary Majority.
2. 1/09 – 7/14/09 – 59-41 – Ordinary Majority. (Coleman/Franklin Recount.)
3. 7/09 – 8/09 - 60-40 – Technical Super Majority, but since Kennedy is unable to vote, the Democrats can’t overcome a filibuster
4. 8/09 – 9/09 - 59-40 – Ordinary Majority. (Kennedy dies)
5. 9/09 – 10/09 - 60-40 – Super Majority for 11 working days.
6. 1/10 – 2/10 – 60-40 – Super Majority for 13 working days

Total Time of the Democratic Super Majority: 24 Working days.




That is very interesting. Did Bush's Congress ever have a super majority in the Senate?




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