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Conspiracy Theory re Shootings

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:02 AM

CANTTAKESKY

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:12 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Amongst any sufficiently large sampling of individuals, there are bound to be people who resemble Pirate News.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:47 AM

BYTEMITE


The Benghazi thing probably really is a bust conspiracy theory wise - If there was an effort at a cover-up, which I don't think there was, just mass confusion - it was just to cover-up incompetence. The government being incompetent is not really anything new or alarming. I would have been far more concerned that there might be multiple foreign powers and factions involved, but none of those threads have born out or been followed up on by action, so I have to conclude the story there is really very simple.

In this case, the Libor thing I actually think is serious business, and worth a look into. There could definitely be more going on here than meets the eye. And I also remember a mention of a second shooter that has since disappeared.

However, the Dark Knight Rises movie connection is a dead end, as Gotham is an AU New York, and there's a Sandyhook suburb of Manhattan. It's not Sandyhook Connecticut. Also, I don't doubt the ability of the shooter, asperger's isn't exactly a mentally crippling condition but more of a socially crippling one. I'm also a little dubious about the UN bill being a concern - people were all afraid about Copenhagen, and nothing happened there, the UN is pretty much worthless as an NWO proxy. No, I think it's all about this Libor thing, and I'm going to continue looking into that.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:44 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
The Benghazi thing probably really is a bust conspiracy theory wise - If there was an effort at a cover-up, which I don't think there was, just mass confusion - it was just to cover-up incompetence. The government being incompetent is not really anything new or alarming. I would have been far more concerned that there might be multiple foreign powers and factions involved, but none of those threads have born out or been followed up on by action, so I have to conclude the story there is really very simple.

In this case, the Libor thing I actually think is serious business, and worth a look into. There could definitely be more going on here than meets the eye. And I also remember a mention of a second shooter that has since disappeared.

However, the Dark Knight Rises movie connection is a dead end, as Gotham is an AU New York, and there's a Sandyhook suburb of Manhattan. It's not Sandyhook Connecticut. Also, I don't doubt the ability of the shooter, asperger's isn't exactly a mentally crippling condition but more of a socially crippling one. I'm also a little dubious about the UN bill being a concern - people were all afraid about Copenhagen, and nothing happened there, the UN is pretty much worthless as an NWO proxy. No, I think it's all about this Libor thing, and I'm going to continue looking into that.




Dark Knight Rises predicts Sandy Hook School massacre
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53801


http://archive.org/details/911TruthInBatmanTheDarkKnight
http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2012/07/dark-knight-rising-for-new-w
orld-order.html


Quote:

"We need to brainwash people to think about guns in a vastly different way."
-US attorney general Eric Holder, CSPAN2, 1985

"I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough. Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at. Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon.''
-Professor Bill Ayers, FBI/CIA employee and confessed bomber of NYPD HQ, US Capitol, NY Supreme Court, bombed and killed two female bombers in his house, busted CIA LSD mind-control agent Timothy Leary out of prison, confessed to 12 bombings in Operation Northwoods but never prosecuted, author of Barack Hussien Obama Sotoro's authorized biography and grant recipient of Obama's Annenberg Foundation
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/

"Last Thursday evening at Montclair State University, with a video camera rolling, Bill Ayers volunteered that yes indeed he had written the acclaimed Barack Obama memoir, Dreams from My Father. 'Yeah, yeah,' he said after confirming again that he wrote Dreams, 'And if you help me prove it, I'll split the royalties with you. Thank you very much.'
-Terrorist Ayres ADMITS writing "autobiography" for Obama
http://capoliticalnews.com/blog_post/show/8090

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_underground


"There's going to be a Marxist revolution in Amerika. We need to be organized and grow the movement."
-Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro, member of the Young Marxist Club at Occidental College
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/meeting_young_obama.html

"Government control of communications and transportation."
-Communist Manifesto, 6th Plank

"I'm Barack Obama, the Marxist professor. I spent the last two years of high school in a daze. I drank beer heavily, and tried drugs enthusiastically. Look I uh, when I was a kid , I inhaled, frequently. that was uh, that was the point. Pot helped, and booze. A little blow when you could afford it. Junkie, pothead, that's where I was headed. Now you know that guy ain't shit. Sorry ass motherfuckers got nothin on me, nothin. Shit's gettin way too complicated for me. There are white folks, then there are ignorant motherfuckers like you. You can put lipstick on a pig. You ain't my bitch nigger, buy your own damn fries. That's just how white folks will do ya."
-Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro, Dreams From My Father MP3
http://www.archive.org/details/ObamaInauguralMashup/]

Just pretend its a typical Joss Whedon TV show!






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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:05 AM

BYTEMITE


We may disagree on the other stuff PN, but you find some more Libor links and I'll be all over that. I suspect there really is something there.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 7:44 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Anthony,
Quote:

Amongst any sufficiently large sampling of individuals, there are bound to be people who resemble Pirate News.

...and those who take him seriously.

Actually, I've been waiting--and still am--for the conspiracy theory that Obama did all--or the Dems in concert with him, or whatever--so that he could tighten gun restrictions and "take away all our guns". I'm sure that one is out there, probably wouldn't take much looking to find it, either.

I know it's coming. Given how the reaction nationwide has been so astonishing, and there's actually a chance something might get PASSED, I'm sure there are enough PN's and those like him out there to come up with it pretty soon.

Sad, deluded people...

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:01 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yup, I thought so. For your amusement:
Quote:

If you've got a certain kind of Facebook friend — an End-the-Fed, mechanical-elves, Monsanto-causes-cancer, Nibiru-fearing cousin, say — you may have already heard the "news" that Newtown shooter Adam Lanza's father was a key witness in a congressional hearing about a banking scandal. Or the theory that the new Batman movie predicted the shooting. Or that The Hunger Games did. None of these conspiracy theories are true, obviously. But they're all over the internet.

As usual, it only took a couple of days for the weird online gutter-spaces where the far left, far right, hyper-libertarian and new age kooks all hang out to gurgle out a handful of theories about the mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., that ended with 27 deaths. They are, each, stupider than the last, though no less fascinating, in a car-crash way, than they usually are. Here, a rundown of some of the more popular:

Adam Lanza and James Holmes' Fathers Were Both Scheduled to Testify in the LIBOR Bank Scandal Hearings

Proposed by: Vlogger Fabian4Liberty, TheExaminer.com, "United Slaves of Amerika" Facebook page
Relevant tweet:

Trooper753@trooper753

Adam Lanza & Batman theater shooter have common denominators. Both their fathers to testify in US Senate hearings about the Libor scandal.

17 Dec 12 Reply
Retweet
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But: "[N]o such hearing was ever scheduled to take place, nor is there even an obvious connection between FICO and the Libor scandal [...] Like FICO, GE has no obvious connection to the investigation, which has roped in various other financial institutions. And once again, there is no "witness list" that includes Lanza because there isn't even a hearing on the issue." — Benjy Sarlin, TPM

Obama orchestrated the shootings in Newtown and Aurora to force Cerebus to Sell Bushmaster

Proposed by: GodLikeProductions.com posters, Twitchy.com commenters
Relevant comment:

But: Since 2005, we've had a mass shooting every four months on average. It's true, though, this is the only one with little kids right before Christmas. Must be Obama.

The Dark Knight Returns Predicted the Aurora Shooting, and the Sandy Hook Shooting, and Hurricane Sandy

Proposed by: BeforeItsNews.com, Facebook page "Satan", Vlogger Dabu7
Relevant image:
http://gawker.com/5969532/the-insane-sandy-hook-conspiracy-theories-th
at-are-already-flooding-facebook-and-twitter?utm_source=jalopnik.com&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=recirculation


"This is the official map from the movie The Dark Knight Rises... Here's what I saw so far... Pyramid with an eye... Hurricane SANDYs path... Sandy Hook... Strike points line up to make a pentagram"

But: Despite what the Facebook page "Satan" claims, Commissioner Gordon doesn't say "nothing is a coincidence" during the brief shot of a map in which the words "Sandy Hook" are visible. Also, uh, no.

A Secret Society Used The Hunger Games as a Model in Drugging Adam Lanza to Carry Out a Mass Killing to Provide the Pretext to Take Away Our Freedoms

Proposed by: PrisonPlanet.com, SGT Report
Relevant quote:

But then there is THIS. SGT Report cites a "coincidence" that will leave you thinking about a planned scenario at Newtown, just the kind of operation secret societies are reputedly famous for. In The Hunger Games, many times called a model of predictive programming, the ritual sacrifice of 23 children is carried out. Twelve districts, two children from each district; they fight in pairs and kill each other until one winner is left. 23 children are killed. In Newton, Adam Lanza killed 20 children. The author of The Hunger Games, Suzanne Collins, is listed by Wikipedia as one of the famous people who lives in Newtown. You take it from there. Call it whatever you want to. I try to avoid winging big stretches, but this is too stunning to omit. WTF. http://gawker.com/5969532/the-insane-sandy-hook-conspiracy-theories-th
at-are-already-flooding-facebook-and-twitter?utm_source=jalopnik.com&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=recirculation
]
I see PN's new favorite conspiracy theory has made it in there.

And ahhhh, there's the one I was expecting:
Quote:

A woman I work with is pushing the hidden motive behind the Sandy Hook tragedy. She heard it on talk radio, so it must be the truth.

The Obama Administration secretly hired the Lanza's to shoot up the school and escape. Instead both were killed to silence them. The motive is to use the outrage following the shooting to outlaw all firearms with the intent to disarm America. The administration will use UN forces to go door to door and confiscate every gun. Then the unarmed citizens will be helpless as the nation is turned over to Socialist powers run by Obama.

I just walked away too stunned at her stupidity to even reply.


Yea, I received a junk email today (was filtered into my junk folder) that I opened up and it had a conspiracy theory, in detail, along the lines of above. I won't comment on the sad reality that some people have little-to-no moral compass to piggyback onto this tragic event and spew such ridiculousness - especially just a couple days after it took place.
http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,1479663,1479674


Two of these theories are posted in detail, the the first by the above poster, the second by a commenter who's actually SERIOUS about it. You can look them up if you want them in detail, but the crux of them is

1) The primary-school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, approximately 45 miles from the Colt Arms Factory, is just another one in the long line of government psyops designed to persuade the public to allow the government to take away their guns, and their means to defend themselves against the government and the banksters that the politicians really serve.

The small children murders are designed to create hysterical emotions in women to get them to demand that guns are banned. If that doesn’t work they will continue with their evil agenda with worse and worse atrocities on younger children, until they get their way and disarm the people, so that they cannot fight back against government tyranny.

2) Another reason they're doing this to us is to create PTSD in the population. (post traumatic stress disorder) It's another form of mind control, their area of expertise. {Yeah, really--you should read it!}

A couple of the best comments:

"These folks have been waiting so long for Obama to get around to taking their guns and turning the country over to the U.N. that I suppose they just want to get it over with at this point."

and my personal favorite: "If hobbits had guns, we could have avoided that whole 'ring mess'". Good to see some have a sense of perspective, anyway.

Expect more insanity...there's always enough to go around.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:53 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

But: " [N]o such hearing was ever scheduled to take place, nor is there even an obvious connection between FICO and the Libor scandal [...] Like FICO, GE has no obvious connection to the investigation, which has roped in various other financial institutions. And once again, there is no "witness list" that includes Lanza because there isn't even a hearing on the issue."


That is not my interest in the libor scandal (and I hadn't even heard anything about FICO). Most corporate scandals never get to the ENRON level of litigation, and whether there's a hearing or not is not my scope.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:34 AM

CANTTAKESKY


I agree with Byte that the LIBOR scandal is worth digging deeper, regardless of its connection with the shootings.

http://occupycorporatism.com/no-viable-connection-between-peter-lanza-
us-senate-libor-hearings
/



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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:07 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I'm certainly for LIBOR getting more attention--I've posted about it a couple of times, but nobody seemed interested. It's a serious problem...but it has nothing to do with Sandy Hook, and seeing some kind of connection is just in my opinion, as are the other tin-foil-hat theories.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:34 AM

BYTEMITE


Hmm. Okay.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:38 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I'm certainly for LIBOR getting more attention--I've posted about it a couple of times, but nobody seemed interested. It's a serious problem...but it has nothing to do with Sandy Hook, and seeing some kind of connection is just in my opinion, as are the other tin-foil-hat theories.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.



Agreed. Its looney.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

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