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Environmentalists want Obama to steer clear of Congress on climate change

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Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:58 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Pretty damned sad, when you have to go AROUND your legislative body to get anything done on an issue the rest of the world has accepted and IS getting things done on...
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Environmental advocacy groups hope President Barack Obama will live up to the words of his second inaugural address that put climate change front and center on the national agenda even though he rarely mentioned it during the presidential campaign.

But the same advocates, including the Sierra Club and the Natural Resources Defense Council, say the president should use the power of the executive branch to further those aims rather than pursuing a congressional strategy.

Melinda Pierce, legislative director for the Sierra Club, pushed the president to focus more on executive orders and regulations from the Environmental Protection Agency than on legislation.

"Congress is a place where good ideas go to die," she said. "There is a tremendous amount that his administration can do without Congress. He has the authority; he doesn't have to wait for Congress."

"There is a clear plan of action here," Pooley said. "It is time to just get started with the rule-making, which is a process that gives ample time for give and take between the administration and industry."

Included in the list of executive actions that Pierce and others hope for are curbing carbon emissions among existing power plants, not just new plants, and mandating high efficiency standards to larger trucks and longer haul vehicles.

Those sort of executive branch actions are similar to what Obama pushed for during his first term.

In 2011, the EPA issued new standards on toxic pollutants and mercury emissions from coal power plants. Obama also finalized regulations requiring that passenger cars and trucks nearly double their fuel efficiency by 2025.

Bob Keefe, spokesman for the Natural Resources Defense Council, said Obama's first term was successful on environmental issues because of those actions. More at http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/23/politics/obama-climate-change/index.html
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The problem is, executive orders and such are more easily overturned with the next President, so I'm not sure how much good it would do. Still, it would be a start to let the world know that we're not COMPLETELY stupid with our heads buried in the sand...

Which right now we DO look like, tho' even here there are small signs of hope:
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One neglected risk -- climate change -- appears to at last be rising to the top of agendas in business and political circles. When the World Economic Forum recently asked 1,000 leaders from industry, government, academia, and civil society to rank risks over the coming decade for the Global Risks 2013 report, climate change was in the top three.

...For good reason: last year was the hottest year on record for the continental United States, and records for extreme weather events were broken around the world. We are seeing more droughts, wildfires, and rising seas. The current U.S. drought will wipe out approximately 1% of the U.S. GDP and is on course to be the costliest natural disaster in U.S. history. Damage from Hurricane Sandy will cost another 0.5% of GDP. And a recent study found that the cost of climate change is about $1.2 trillion per year globally, or 1.6% of global GDP.

Shifting to low-carbon energy sources is critical to mitigating climate change's impacts. Greenhouse gas emissions in industrial countries need to fall by 80-90% by 2050 to prevent climate change's most disastrous impacts. And there is evidence that gas is crowding out renewables.

Renewable energy -- especially solar and wind power -- are clear winners when it comes to reducing emissions. Unfortunately, despite falling prices, the financial markets remain largely risk-averse. Many investors are less willing to finance renewable power. As a result of this mindset, along with policy uncertainty and the proliferation of low-cost gas, renewable energy investment dropped 11%, to $268 billion, last year.

Currently, more than 100 countries have renewable energy targets, more than 40 developing nations have introduced feed-in tariffs, and countries from Saudi Arabia to South Africa are making big bets on renewables as a growth market. Many countries are also exploring carbon-trading markets, including the EU, South Korea, and Australia. This year, China launched pilot trading projects in five cities and two provinces, with a goal of a national program by 2015.

Removing market barriers

Despite growing demand for renewable energy from many companies, this demand often remains unmet due to numerous regulatory, financial, and psychological barriers in the marketplace.

In an effort to address these, WRI just launched the Green Power Market Development Group in India, bringing together industry, government, and NGOs to build critical support for renewable energy markets. A dozen major companies from a variety of sectors—like Infosys, ACC, Cognizant, IBM, WIPRO, and others— have joined the initiative. This type of government-industry-utility partnership, built upon highly successful models elsewhere, can spur expanded clean energy development. It will be highlighted in Davos this week at meetings of the Green Growth Action Alliance (G2A2).

Some new funding mechanisms are emerging that can help reduce risk and thus leverage large sums of financing. For example, the Green Climate Fund could, if well-designed, be an important venue to raise funds and drive additional investments from capital markets. Likewise, multi-lateral development banks' recent $175 billion commitment to sustainable transport could help leverage more funds from the private and public sectors.

Some forward-looking companies are seeking to create internal incentives for green investments. For example, companies like Unilever, Johnson & Johnson, and UPS have been taking actions to reduce internal hurdle rates and shift strategic thinking to the longer-term horizons that many green strategies need.

Davos is exactly the type of venue for finding solutions to such issues, which requires leadership and coalition-building from the private and public sectors. For example, the the G2A2, an alliance of CEOs committed to addressing climate and environmental risks, will launch the Green Investment Report with precisely the goal of "unlocking finance for green growth".

Depending on what happens at Davos—and other forums and meetings like it throughout the year—2013 could just be a game-changer. Much more at http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/22/business/steer-climate-change-davos/


You'll excuse me if I don't hold my breath...

While the rest of the world scrambles to avoid the economic and other threats of global warming, America mostly sits on its hands and say "Nah, no such thing." Sigh...

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Thursday, January 24, 2013 5:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



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Pretty damned sad, when you have to go AROUND your legislative body to get anything done on an issue the rest of the world has accepted and IS getting things done on...


Yeah, crappy 3 branch system of govt!

But obama is just the sort of tyrannical leader who'd not think twice of subverting the will of the people to push forward his political agenda.

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, January 25, 2013 3:34 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Executive orders do not subvert anything and are limited in what they can do.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 7:03 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Bear in mind you're speaking to Rap the Contrarian, Nick.

Interestingly, he's kind of become a parody of himself this past space of time, it seems to me.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Friday, January 25, 2013 7:16 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Executive orders do not subvert anything and are limited in what they can do.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.




EOs aren't suppose to set policy either.

Their intent is for...

1. Operational management of the executive branch
2. Operational management of federal agencies or officials
3. To carry out statutory or constitutional presidential responsibilities


RapContrarianisall

"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, January 25, 2013 7:49 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


There was a former President who believed in a strong Unitary Executive. What was his name? Rush? Tush? Something like that...

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Friday, January 25, 2013 8:07 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Yeah, crappy 3 branch system of govt!

But obama is just the sort of tyrannical leader who'd not think twice of subverting the will of the people to push forward his political agenda.



Yeah, issuing fewer Executive Orders than any other President in the last 100 years....

You maybe should invest in a dictionary. You clearly don't understand many, many basic words.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, January 25, 2013 8:09 AM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by Niki2:
Bear in mind you're speaking to Rap the Contrarian, Nick.

Interestingly, he's kind of become a parody of himself this past space of time, it seems to me.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.



Ive got a theory that he's trying to make other right-wingers look less crazy, by supplying such a insane, foaming at the mouth caricature.

But then I remember he's not smart enough to pull that off.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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